yep. you can be port superitendant or manager.

other than that, you can also join tug boat or become strait/harbour pilot. only sail for few hours and not for days. hoho.

hoho!

welcome to the thread!

which department? engine or deck?

hrmmm...

don't know about that. since i'm only familiar with malaysian vessel.

hoho. nice job you have there. what is your opinion regarding seaman life?

Yep!

you're true about that. not many want to sail as they get older.

that's why we have many job opportunities in this industry. because the average retirement age for seafarer is around 30-40. once the senior step down, more opening will be available.

there also many career opportunities on shore for seafarer once they're tired of sailing.

yep!

our lifestyle is very different from normal people.

during the first two or three month of sailing, you're still happy. after that, you'll be thinking about home.

moreover, during storm. the ship will roll and pitch. seasick. sometime, during storm, you'll be thinking that you'll never go sailing again. but after a while on shore, you'll be thinking to sail again. hoho.

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Added on February 7, 2009, 7:25 am1st post edited. past year oral question added. fell free to check!

*NOWADAYS, THERE ARE ALSO COMPANY SEEKING FOR MECHANICAL/MARINE ENGINEERING DEGREE GRADUATE TO DO THEIR CADETSHIP FOR 6 MONTH ONBOARD THEIR SHIP. AFTER COLLECTING SEATIME, YOU CAN TAKE THE ORAL TEST FROM MARDEP FOR CLASS 4 COC. THAT MEAN, IF YOU GRADUATE FOR EXAMPLE FROM UTM ALSO CAN GO ONBOARD SHIP. I'LL TRY TO GET MORE INFO ABOUT THIS. WILL ASK FROM MY SENIOR FOR FURTHER DETAILS. I'LL UPDATE IT LATER ON.

DURING CADET, THIS COMPANY THAT I'VE KNOWN WILL PAY USD 650. AFTER GOT CLASS 4 COC, SALARY USD3450. WORK ONBOARD FPSO. 2MONTH ON/2MONTH OFF. DURING OFF, NO PAY.

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Added on February 7, 2009, 8:02 pmDefinition of Marine Engineer

Marine engineers are the members of a ship's crew that operate and maintain the propulsion and other systems on board the vessel. Marine Engineering staff also deal with the "Hotel" facilities on board, notably the sewage, lighting, air conditioning and water systems. They deal with bulk fuel transfers, and require training in firefighting and first aid, as well as in dealing with the ship's boats and other nautical tasks- especially with cargo loading/discharging gear and safety systems, though the specific cargo discharge function remains the responsibility of deck officers and deck workers.

Sometimes, they are involved in the design and construction of these complicated systems. New design is mostly included within the naval architecture or ship design. The field is closely related to mechanical engineering, although the modern engineer requires knowledge (and hands on experience) with electrical, electronic, pneumatic, hydraulic, chemistry, control engineering, naval architecture, process engineering, gas turbines and even nuclear technology on certain military vessels.


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Past year question for oral test. COC class 4.



This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 8 2009, 04:39 AM

denda?

nope. if you quit matric before receiving any allowances given by them, you don't have to pay back. if you already receive, you'll have to pay what you've receive back to them.

welcome to the thread!

another seafarer here. anybody want to ask about nautical studies can ask linuskate coz he's more expert than me.

i'm DME 25. laz year intake. I'm AET sponsored. there is no longer ec batch coz they've change 3 1/2 years prog to 3 years.

yep! luckily maritime industries are not affected much by the recession. at this time. hope it will last.

I've been introduce these sea-going career to many people as possible. because i'll be happy to see more Malaysian seafarers. we are lacking of seafarer in malaysia and worldwide.

This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 9 2009, 12:52 AM

haha.

too bad aet no LNG. heard that life onboard LNG is much more happier. clean ship!

i'll be dealing with the baddest oil.

This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 9 2009, 01:21 AM

haha. no problemo. send my regards to your brother.

Actually, i've promised myself. that i'll introduced this seafaring career. because, when i was asked to go for interview and written test, i have no ideas about it. I search the net and find very little info about this career in Malaysia and how to prepare for ALAM interview and written test.

moreover, i know there are many people out there that have the same vision as me. that is to end study early and earn big $ early. so can help famly and sibling. i'm willing to sacrifice my younger years and life just for this.

seaman lyf is not as hard and boring as everybody think actually. all your hardwork is paid when you go to bank, insert ur atm card, enter ur pin, and smile. hoho.

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Added on February 9, 2009, 2:35 pmIt's good then cause you've been back on your track. good luck for you! later on can find someone to help me get into avation field. haha.


This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 9 2009, 02:35 PM

yep! just that, pilot have more chances of travelling. actually, if you notice, different ranks have different sea-going time. it is because that they want us to collect seatime to undergo next level of COC.

if you notice, you can see that actually LAME bring more bucks than mariner. but, as you can see, they've to pay for income tax, transportation to work, meal. etc...

but if you work in Dubai, bigger bucks and no income tax.

hoho. right now, money is my 2nd concern as i'm still studying. but for linuxskate, haha! he's already earning it.


btw linuxskate, have you ever heard anything about dynamic positioning officer. heard that ALAM melaka are currently conducting these course. i also heard that for senior dynamic positioning officer, they can earn up to rm 45k per month without income tax working in malaysian companies.

if you happen to know these course, wanna ask. is there any same course dynamic positioning officer for marine engineer?

This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 9 2009, 04:43 PM

RMY of coz. not much. i think LAME earn more than that.

haha!

just thought that there is position like that for engineer. maybe can have dynamic positioning engineer. haha.

hoho. you're in the 10 years contract or 5 years after Class 1/captain?

yep! if i'm not mistaken, nautical will learn about stuff that you've mention and maritime law. they have math if i'm not mistaken. but just basic math. they also learn about cargo handling. how to load cargo. how to unload. the procedure. the part that i don't like that prevent me from taking nautical is the maritime law. haha. only to learn that in engineering also need to study some of the laws.

for engineering, yes electronics and electromagnetism we will learn in electrotechnology. but juz basic stuff. for math, almost the same as add math and mod math you've learn in form 5. just a bit harder. we also learn thermodynamics. and we learn applied mechanics. which is something like advance version of physic you've learn in form 5.

This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 9 2009, 06:57 PM

errrr... i dunno about that. still can be seafarer. but not marine engineer. maybe if you got welder professional certs, you can be welder. not very much compared to marine engineer. and normally, company have age limit for those who wanted to go onboard ship. due to fitness reason.

haha. my advice, think about it very carefully once you've passed the selection process. coz this will be ur career. you have to sail for a long tym(unless you want to pay money due to breach of contract).

like me, sometime i'm happy with my decision. sometime i think i've made a wrong decision. haha.

don't think only stupid people go to work onboard ship. in my batch, there is 12 A's student. 9 A's student.

try to apply for politeknik ungku omar if you're above the age limit. coz they accept until 28.

not only seaman book. but you also need international passport, modular courses certs(this is the expensive one).

seaman book just to show as evidence when you want to seat for higher level of COC classes and test. as a proof that you've enough seatime.

my advice, better search for job before doing all this stuff. coz it'll be expensive and will be waste in case your brother cannot find the job.

may i suggest tanker pacific for u to search job for ur bro. they have their website and online job application.

yep. can do it in ALAM. around 2 weeks for basic and another 2 weeks for advance.

basic around 3k.
advance i'm not sure about this.

what is qualification/academic achievement/certs that ur brother holding? and what is his ages?

if you enter alam, you're high probability you're sponsored by shipping companies. in fact, 90% are sponsored by companies. the other 10% is sponsored by felda and JPA. for petronas sponsored, they'll be working with MISC.

for cadetship. only little pay. if i'm not mistaken. rm680 for MISC and usd200 for AET.

yep! not 4-5k. coz linuxskate juz come back from his 1st voyage. it is around rm7k

nope! LAE is higher provided that they work outside malaysia. for starting, they're higher than us. but they start working later than us. if you enter alam

by the age of 18, you'll work by the age of 22, at that time you've already earn rm7k per month. when you're 25(age when normally LAE start

working), provided you past all the test and promoted, you'll earn rm13-15k per month. but remember this. you don't have to pay income tax for being

seafarer. during working, meal provided, no need transportation to go to work. thus, we save more money.


in ALAM, we have balance number of student here. majority is malays and indians. chinese not mush since not many of them apply for this course. but

for seafarer, most were foreigner. we hae small number of malaysian seafarer.

3 years is needed to finish diploma. after grad, company give around 2-3 month of rest before you start working.

This post has been edited by destroyer: Feb 10 2009, 12:36 AM

that is for deck side(nautical). for engine side(engineering), can wear spectacles.