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 Begin Your Career As A SEAFARER, Marine Engineering, Nautical Studies,etc

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post Sep 27 2010, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(kella @ Sep 26 2010, 10:06 PM)
Hello everyone. I am newbie here. I got a few questions to ask. I got engineering diploma but in E&E and wish to explore career in marine industry, maritime in general.

Do I really require to have attended a formal classes specializing in marine engineering in order to apply for jobs in this industry?

Do I eligible to apply any job in marine industry that without needing to have the marine engineering certificate/diploma?

What courses are eligible/essential to take for my case? COC? STCW? Marine Rating?
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quite happy when reading your post because it's quite different. it shows that you do read around an taking interest in this career. a good step in becoming a good seafarer biggrin.gif

well. there is marine electrical course. but i think it'll value less when applying for electrical engineer post in shipping company. what you need is experience. perhaps, 1-2 years of experience in shipyard or power plant is considered good enough to start a career in maritime industry.

well. if you want to apply for marine electrical engineer, your diploma is sufficient. but if you want to be marine engineer, you'll have to sail for a few months before you can sit for COC exam and oral test.

i don't know if there is COC for electrical engineer. but STCW certs are needed to go onboard. my advice, try applying for electrical engineer post on shipping company with big size ship. because smaller vessel usually don't have electrical engineer. just apply first. then you can ask them whether you have to take STCW certs on your own or they will sponsor you.

but most of electrical engineer i've met are either from shipyard or power plant electrical technician. there are also some from freshie. no prob if you want to apply from freshie but have to struggle a lil bit to catch up.
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post Sep 27 2010, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(kella @ Sep 27 2010, 08:24 AM)
Hi destroyer, thanks for your reply. Very clear explanation. thumbup.gif

So meaning that, I got my E&E diploma plus 1-2 years of relevant experience then I just need to sit for STCW if I want to go onboard. Right?

Let say if I want to become a marine engineer, do I require to have Marine Engineering qualification? But I already have an engineering diploma plus enough experience and can I just sit for COC?

But what is Marine Rating actually? Do I require to have this qualification as well if I want to become a seafarer? I noticed that the course is require you to attend 2 months theory and 6 months onboard. icon_question.gif
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haha. yep. that's right. however, i do know some that enter marine field without experience. although this is rarely seen, but it is there. just try to find job at relevant field and at the same time keep trying to apply for the job.

hurm... you don't really required to have marine engineering qualification. but you'll need seatime and required to complete TAR book in order to sit for the exam. for example, i've seen a cook become a captain. i've seen an oiler become chief engineer. as long you're willing to learn more, there is no stopping for you.

marine rating course is when one become support staff onboard the ship. for example AB, Cook, Oiler, etc... but. they also can become officer if they're willing to learn. to be an electrical eng, there is no need to take these course. btw, since you've got the qualification in electrical, just proceed with electrical eng. you'll earn much more. about usd2.7k for starting and maximum about 5.6k. rating only about usd 1.2k and the highest i've seen they earn is about usd 2k. but if you become deck or engine officer, can earn up to usd15k per month.

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post Sep 30 2010, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(kella @ Sep 27 2010, 06:13 PM)
I don't really have sufficient relevant experience in electrical field because I do mechanical rather than electrical.  hmm.gif 70% over 30% maybe..

hmm.gif  hmm.gif  I see. So in my case, what courses are MANDATORY to be taken? STCW of course right, all three courses? Marine Safety Courses, Marine Electronics and Non STCW? How about COC? Marine Rating of course no need..  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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first you need to apply for seaman book and seaman card. then take required STCW courses.

for COC, you can only get it after you collect enough seatime undergo training and completing your TAR book. then you have to sit for oral exam from marine department. but this only applicable if u want to become marine engineer. if electrical engineer they don't need COC.

QUOTE(tom_87 @ Sep 29 2010, 10:54 AM)
if im a diploma grad wif electric n electronic w/out exp then how?
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in your case, refer to reply i've made to kella. try reading around a bit will you.
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post Oct 1 2010, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(kella @ Sep 30 2010, 06:12 PM)
thumbup.gif all right.... i wish to take it sooner.  biggrin.gif  hmm.gif how about fees destroyer? Do you know how much is the up to date fees for getting all those requirements in MALAYSIA?
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the fees? you can try search in alam website. there they have the course schedule inside. got the payment also.


QUOTE(bleedingxknuckles @ Oct 1 2010, 03:51 AM)
hi there. i just finished my diploma engineering technology in ship construction and maintenance at unikl mimet. is there any possible that i can choose this path? thanks. smile.gif
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i'm not sure. it depends on your syllabus.
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post Oct 9 2010, 03:08 PM

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haha. everybody busy in alam.

where got time to online.
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post Oct 29 2010, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(cipan82 @ Oct 25 2010, 12:49 AM)
I'm an Electrical Engineer from MISC Berhad..
Liner Fleet...
Just came back from Tokyo..
Now I'm on holiday for 4months after serving onboard ship about 8months..
My holiday is too long maa...like maternity leave..
hahaha
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welcome bro!

tell us how u become electrical engineer onboard. many other here seek the answer. hehe.
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post Nov 14 2010, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(pinkpillow @ Nov 10 2010, 01:58 PM)
hello, i am new here. can i know if they are accepting female engineer to work offshore? thanks.
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currently in my company. there is female chief engineer.

QUOTE(nazq @ Nov 10 2010, 06:01 PM)
Is this Seafarer thing linked up with logistics management as well?
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yup. but you'll be based in office i think.
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post Nov 18 2010, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Imperfecion @ Nov 15 2010, 02:34 PM)
destroyer,

as i heard, seafarers work minimum hours for maximum pay. can you verify that statement for me? What i heard was seafarers work on alternate days. *thumbs up*
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If like that, i'll be fapping around in happiness. It depends on your superior, condition of ship, maintainance in schedule and lotsa of other thing. But we do sometime get a day off or half-day. This only applicable to engineer and crew. For deck officer, everyday need to work.

QUOTE(mad093dean @ Nov 17 2010, 01:22 AM)
destroyer when can someone know their contract period?
and maybe you can show me some contract duration for certain company

i'm curious about this.
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Contract differs depending on company and your rank.

Usually, 9months on/3months off for crews/rating. Junior officer 6months on/3months off. Senior officer 4months on/4months off.
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post Dec 31 2010, 02:14 AM

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Me? Going for my 5th sem later. Shyt....
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post Apr 8 2011, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(seharummawaddah @ Mar 26 2011, 02:23 PM)
i've got confused whether to apply 4 marine engineering or nautical studies..

it's because  i got 10A, 1B n 1C, c is physics for my spm.....  before this, i

want to take marine engineering but after i knew my physic  is sooo worst,

i'm really worried i would unelected... what should i choose?? -.-"
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no problem. probably with that kind of result and if u keep up the hard work, u might as well become top student.


QUOTE(Midnightjive @ Mar 31 2011, 04:54 PM)
For you guys and gals embarking into the Seafarers industry, you better be prepared. It is not an easy industry, but if you play your cards right,in the end you will be thankful. I have been sailing for over 10 years.

If you're in it for the money. There aren't much rich seafarers since we all know how to spend money only.  rclxms.gif

If you're the type who needs someone to cry on always or check your phone every 10 minutes, don't join this career.  rclxub.gif

Being away from home for 6-9 months is harder than it sounds. Imagine your love ones asking why you can't come home for raya and they will never understand your explanation. Be prepared to let everyone down. But if you manage to make it past 5 years sailing, then you can see the difference in quality of life that you have compared to your friend. (if you pass your exams la)

If you're lazy and cannot do physical work. Don't join this career. You're first few months training on a ship, you will be ragged like a kuli only. Mopping and cleaning.

If you cannot respect anyone and follow orders, don't join this career. If you are rebellious and always think you're right, don't join this career. I know I am always right ! LOL

But if you are a poor boy like me and don't have daddy's money to spend, then maybe this is the right career. If you want to bring your life out of poverty and you are willing to sacrifice, then join the sea life.

Ask yourself, WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO SACRIFICE?


Added on March 31, 2011, 5:07 pm

Usually its the other way around. A lot of my friends went from Marine to Mechanical and some to naval Architecture. But anything is possible when you have the money. I went into Business Administration after my COC class 1. I was a nautical student.
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agreed. well said bro.
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post Apr 8 2011, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(madcatworld @ Apr 8 2011, 02:50 PM)
Hi..wanna ask about RETI - Ranaco Education and Training Institute. Anyone heard about this one? My brother got the offer there for diploma in maritime tech engineering. Is it wise for him to take this offer?

Sorry if i'm in wrong topicĀ  blush.gif
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i'm not saying bad bout anybody. juz that, some of my fren who sailed onboard offshore support vessel met guys from ranaco. so far they only met ranaco student able to climb up till rating only.

i'm not sure. i might be wrong. for foreign going vessel, i don't think i've met/heard ranaco cadet before.

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QUOTE(xPC12x @ Apr 8 2011, 03:30 PM)
ya lor, , is not to say anything bad about some body, but to be honest la, i have a few friends from ranacco, when they want to send their cv at a company, employees will see the first cv of where you learned previously, if the rannaco, hmmm .... cool2.gif
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for that part, i blame the institution. not the student.

because maybe they're lack in facilities that when shipping co come for tour, they will think that ranaco cadets lack of competency since they're given improper training because lack of facilities.

last time when we asked ranaco booth guy during education fair, they also talk bullsh*t. they don't even know how it is to work onboard. i was like wth... but we just 'layan' that guy. better go to sarawak maritime academy.
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post Jun 26 2011, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(Farah Sophia @ May 12 2011, 10:03 AM)
Hello Seafarers

We currently have an opening for the following positions:

Rig
1. Scaffolder x 5
2. Steward x 6
3. Chef x 3
4. Asst Chef x 1

Semi-Sub Rig
1. Scaffolder

May we seek for your referral of your Malaysian friends who are qualified for the above positions and immediately available please. 

We would look forward to receive their application and we will proceed at once with the evaluation.

Regards,

Farah Sophia
METS Human Capital Pte Ltd
237 Pandan Loop
#04-02 Westech Building
Singapore 128424
Tel: +65 6561 8298
Mobile:+65 90226482
Fax: +65 6561 8355
Website: www.mets.sg
Email: mets1@mets.sg
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i' try to outsource the vacancy available to my contacts.

QUOTE(agi5293 @ May 13 2011, 07:58 PM)
I had applied PUO but didnt get any answer from them.As i decide this gonna be my profession than i opt to pay my self so that it can worth it in return.And i mentally so prepared let it be whatever resistance it is,i willing to face it.Thank you bro for your information and im very happy to have friend like you.Thumps up  smile.gif
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NO. you've never been on ship. so you might not know if you'll change ur mind later on. my advise, if youre still young, apply for the next year intake. unless your parents are rich

QUOTE(ikoshn @ May 19 2011, 11:48 AM)
afta graduate from ALAM, how if i wanna work on LNG ship...do i choose or will they determine it for me...?
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it depends on your performance in alam and they'll decide for you.

QUOTE(JohnMax @ May 28 2011, 11:28 AM)
Hello destroyer, how are you? Is had been a while i'm not in.

My friend asked that if he had an E or E&E diploma with 8 years of working experience, can he join the field also? Since there is Electrical Engineer also.

If do so, did he will take some course first?
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he can join ship. but he need to take certain courses like first aid, survival... bla3 and the list go on.





seems like this thread have become a bit messy. sorry guys for not updating it. i'll try to start a 2nd version with additional on what me and my fren had undergo during our practical onboard. meanwhile, use this 1st. ;p
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post Jun 29 2011, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(kotoia @ Jun 28 2011, 03:57 PM)
Hello everybody. I'm Guga Kotrikadze From Georgia. I have graduated Batumi State Maritime Academy navigational department as a bachelor. In Georgia it is very difficult to go as a deck cadet because crewing companies which are located in Georgia say that deck cadets aren't required from companies for a long time. I made my practice in the port on the pilot's vessel, then on a tug so I have experience 6 months of onboard trainings. I don;t think than my knowledge is poor , on the contrary I think that I'm so good. can you advise me any companies or something else how can I go as a deck cadet?
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my suggestion. if you've enough seatime(this is based on 6month seatime, most country should be the same) for u to sit for ur license examination, sit for it 1st. get ur tickets.

with ur tickets, u can sail as an deck officer. it's okay if you sail onboard smaller ship. just make sure the capacity is high enough for u to sit for highest capacity license exam later on. and if you plan later on to sail onboard bigger foreign going ship, you can go to your local marine department and ask for endorsement. but if i'm not mistaken, from near coastal ship to foreign going ship, u'll have to do ur contract 1 rank below ur current rank.

for example, let say that u've been sailing onboard offshore support vessel as 2nd officer. when u go onboard tanker, u'll be demoted as 3rd officer. collect ur seatime and get ur endorsement.

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post Jun 29 2011, 03:56 AM

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QUOTE(BlackHawkGuGu @ Jun 29 2011, 03:47 AM)
this thread is freaking messy for now on ...

IMHO, u guys should focus on discussing the method of enrolling into ALAM,PUO,S'pore Poly.,etc..

as here would be the place for Malaysian SPM level guys to understand the process of entering this sector.

other than that, should open another thread in Jobs & Careers section for further discussion.

and destroyer.. i think u should have copied some of the most important points in this thread and shut this thread down and start a new and fresh one instead. there are so many similar repeated Q&A...it isnt interesting for people to view on.
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will do. just doing it slowly and gathering more precise info. i need some help from the deck side to.

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post Sep 17 2011, 11:52 PM

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new version of thread is out. so i'll be closing this thread.

here's the link to the new version

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2037325

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