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 Begin Your Career As A SEAFARER, Marine Engineering, Nautical Studies,etc

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post Feb 10 2009, 02:14 AM

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hoho.

thanks for the wishes. i'm still student while linux already working. he's just come back from 1st voyage. probably enjoying his salary.

i'll try to bring more seafarer to contribute to this thread. we already have deck officer in this thread. i'll try to look for engine officer.

yep! from what i've heard, for nautical, they have to do 12 months onboard ship while engineering only 9-11 month during cadet. hope you can help me clarify this linuxskate coz i'm not familiar with ur courses.
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post Feb 10 2009, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(new~b0y @ Feb 10 2009, 06:01 AM)
DP courses available in MSTS Asia, Pasir Gudang, Johor. LINK

Dynamic Positioning Induction (4 days)
Dynamic Positioning Simulator Advanced(4 days)
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ok! thanks for the link.

wonder if only nautical can only take this course. hoho.

have to wait from someone familiar with this.


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btw, i've find the suitable course for marine engineer.

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Dynamic Positioning Technical & Maintenance Course.


but i don't think it is available in malaysia yet.

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post Feb 10 2009, 07:11 PM

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yeah.

shouldn't be thinking about that now. better focus on my COC and diploma 1st. and planning to take commercial diving license too. but later on. too expensive and don't have much tym.

linuxskate, come and share your story about ur experience onboard ship.
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post Feb 10 2009, 07:39 PM

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@drake88

you're dme or dns? u must be dns right. coz there is no dme 22. there is EC 22. hoho.

so, when are you going back to alam for graduation rehearsal?
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post Feb 10 2009, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(drake88 @ Feb 10 2009, 07:45 PM)
my friend .. EC is for last time .. now they call it DME (dip in marine engineering)

im DNS senior so dont have to go rehearsal ^^
waiting for your arrival to melaka campus .. : ) im sure u gonna take some module here...

Added on February 10, 2009, 7:47 pmfor your information im still studying (DNS 09).. hehe ..
not graduating ...
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hoho. we only start DME for the 23rd batch. EC22 still 3 and 1/2 years. starting from dme 23, only 3 years.

yep. i'll be taking modular there. wait for me. haha!

btw, share your practical onboard stories here! i'm sure there are many readers want to hear it.
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post Feb 10 2009, 10:26 PM

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hoho. you're same sponsor as me. while you'll be graduating mid of this year, i'll go for my practical for 9-11 month. hoho. later on maybe i'll be meeting you as my senior officer if we happen to be on the same ship.

btw, how do you take the oral exam when you don't have enough sea-time? are you going for another 2 month for cadetship onboard?

onboard ur ship, do you internet? AFAIK, only aframaxes got internet facilities while for vlcc only able to send email right?

share ur story here about SRC(ship recreational club) and the BBQ experience you're having during shipboard practical. tell them about the facilities. they'll love to hear it.
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post Feb 10 2009, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(hakunamatata @ Feb 10 2009, 11:06 PM)
hey,may i know wad do seafarer do on the ship when off duty.. and when the ship stop at another country the seafarer can rest and travel at the country? or just 12months on the ship no landing lol
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anything u want. as long as it is not dangerous towards urself, others, and cargo u're carrying.

hrmmm, about shore leave, it depends on the captain. normally can get shore leave when in port. but, depends on the captain.

nowadays, we don't actually travel as much as the old days. this is because, the longer we stay in port, the higher we need to pay, and we need to deliver cargo we're carrying as fast as possible. delay in delivery will cause company losses. the best ship to travel if you like travelling is container ship and passenger ship.

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for those interested in engineering.

also, there is one fact. if you guys want to know, especially to those who choose engineering. the engine room is very2 noisy that you have to wear ear muff. and the temperature is around 45-50 degree celcius. imagine working in that condition. you need to be fit for this job. if you think you can withstand this and you like it, then you're in the right path.

i'm just telling the truth. sorry if i cause any disappointment towards anybody. but this is the truth. think about it. can you withstand it? if you can, then join us.
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post Feb 11 2009, 07:19 PM

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just wanna add. those with mechanical engineering degree who wanted to enter the shipping industry, you can inform me. cause there is company who is willing to provide shipboard training to those who's interested.

you'll be sailing as a marine engineering cadet for 6 month. then after collecting enough sea-time, you'll have to go and take oral exam from Marine Department for Class 4 Certificate of Competency. after passing the exam and have the 4th ticket, you'll be working as 4th engineer.

i'm not promoting, just that maybe some of you thought that it is too late to enter maritime industry. this might give new hope. especially during this time when it is hard to get job.

this method have been adopted by some major companies who don't sponsored their own cadet.

this is something about MEBP prog. it is written in BM. hope you guys can understand it. found it in one of MEBP student blog tongue.gif

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post Feb 18 2009, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(mymardept @ Feb 16 2009, 10:10 AM)
This programme have not been approved by Malaysian Marine Department yet, please check with pelaut@marine.gov.my for confirmation. A lot has been said about seafaring as a career, but it is a good career depending how one would define "Good" as for people whom have been in another career and would like to choose this career, you could email to pelaut@marine.gov.my for more information. At least the regulators would have a better understanding about what your needs would be. Well, MISC have not informed MARDEPT about this program but never the less, if such a course is in existance then MARDEPT would investigate should there be an inquiry.

Added on February 16, 2009, 10:14 am

Please make sure you bring all your TARB and filled all the required fields, please also study all the systems and duties. KIndly also ensure you have all your tasks covered, or else you may be given additional sea-time prior to your WKO-Unlimited. In some cases, some candidates have failed because of the TARBS.

PP-UPP-IPL

Added on February 16, 2009, 10:16 amMr Kimm,

Please prepare your cv and forward to :-

pelaut@marine.gov.my else you could go to Mariner's Centre - Port Kelang and look for Seafarers welfare Unit, they will be helpful too. If you do not get a favourable repsonse, please mail me at mymardept@gmail.com
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thanks for the reply mymardept.

You must be one of the mardept officer.

do you haveexample of logbook that engine cadet need to fullfill when he is going for onboard training?

the MEBP programme juz started this year. the first batch are going to finish around this march. if i'm not mistaken, there is the same course available in Singapore Polytechnic. btw, can you explain more about dynamic positioning engineer?

there is something i do not understand. it is about the combine ticket. can you explain more on that thing?
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post Feb 20 2009, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Marsiano @ Feb 20 2009, 02:04 AM)
hey. why not u email him ??

btw, I got a question regarding the working hours/situation of marine engineer in actual life..

as we know, the engine room is HOT and NOISY and slippery too ...

but how many hours the engineers need to work inside the engine room per day ??

Man, I feel that it must be a very very tough job if had to work under that kind of situation longer than 10 hours per day ...
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yep!

the engine room is very noisy and hot. around 45-50 degree celcius. sure will sweat in that room.

engineer will be in the engine room most of the time during working.

hoho. but no worry. you'll only work in the hot part of the engine room when doing maintenance or cleaning.

most of the tym, you'll be in the engine control room which is air-conditioned.
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post Feb 21 2009, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(drake88 @ Feb 21 2009, 05:50 PM)
engineer WONT be all the time in the ECR (engine control room)
engineer will be outside the ECR all the time to do maintainance .. normal working hour is from 8am to 5 pm .. interval got tea break and lunch break

if the vessel is in the port .. different schedule will be arrange .. for example keeping ECR watch 6 on 6 off (6 hour work 6 hour rest)
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haha. yep. but it depends on the ship. if you go onboard old ship, there is more maintenance need to be done.

but in newer ship, when all the equipment is new, there will be less maintenance because you'll be observing in the control room. but still need to do rounding in the engine room because sometime the system might not be right.
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post Mar 4 2009, 07:34 PM

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quite hard.
i do it just so-so.
haha. i'm da first person to get out from the room.
just doing the question that i know.
the other just sharpshooting for the answer.
hak3.

hrmmm...
application form will be release after spm result is release. so, start checking their website.
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post Mar 6 2009, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(vishnnu @ Mar 5 2009, 02:37 PM)
hi there.....just got myself registered today....been a while since i last found a seafarer online.....anyway,ex-crew here,tankerman......left the company about 4 yrs back......last i remember,the pay's not that high even for the officers/engineers compared to foreign shipping companies.......but then,perhaps things have changed......but kinda sucky to actually work with some of the officers who starts bossing around with nothin more than the knowledge they obtained while doin their cadetship n ofcourse theory(books).....i mean,i was in ALAM as well,still keep in touch with quite a number of senior officers/engineers.....luv the old officers,who worked their way up,ratings or dc's....anyway,keep it up,mat bunga's........n read the pro n con about the job n trust me.....unless ur some freakin "well to do" dude or some smart ass where ur company keeps sending u to every part of the world under their expenses,there's not a job that could come close to this one.....places u get to travel to,variety of food,women(hahaha,applicable to singles la).......sailors are tough buggers.......and talk about living as brothers,being an indian...i was treated no less than a brother by the malays......only when my feet touches the ground,i get to see racism,not onboard.....if only more recognition could be given to these guys.....tons os respect... cheers.gif

ps.avoid Container vessels,can't enjoy life ma,hahaha............
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welcome to the thread!

hoho.
which company are you in before?
aet or misc?

btw, what is ur rank now?
2nd eng?


QUOTE(froggytrade @ Mar 5 2009, 04:22 PM)
how bout the Candidate Fitness Assessment test? is it hard?
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just 2 weeks induction course.
if you can withstand it until you finish the induction, then you're in.

trust me. 2 weeks induction in ALAM is more tiring than 3 month plkn.
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post Mar 7 2009, 05:35 PM

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yep.
some of my lecturer said that, you'll get more chances of travelling when joining container.
but also heard that there is lot of work to do onboard container.
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post Mar 8 2009, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(MF2 @ Mar 7 2009, 10:25 PM)
wait if diploma in ship building want to join the marine engineer, what should be taking? diploma or through degree?
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dpends on you.

byt going through degree, you'll be needing more time to become marine engineer. but since you're from diploma in shipbuilding, better you continue degree in marine engineering. the apply through MEBP prog in ALAM or singapore maritime academy.
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post Mar 13 2009, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(silverchain @ Mar 13 2009, 01:31 AM)
oh gosh, i messed up my spm man. Do u think this rslt will have any chance?
BM- A2
BI- A1
Maths- A1
Addmaths- B3
Physics- B3
Bio - C5
Chem - C5
P.A.I- B4
Sej - B4
EST - B4

just average sad.gif
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with this result, i think you'll be called for interview. depends on your performance during the interview to get the scholarship.

before this i get 5A, 4B, and 2C(in add math and physic)
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post Mar 13 2009, 07:07 PM

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as long as he pass the min requirement, he will be called for interview. this happens during my time. not sure about now.
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post Mar 20 2009, 07:47 PM

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ALAM application is now open. you can download the form from their website then email it back to the given address.

http://www.alam.edu.my/programmes_csprogramme.php
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post Mar 21 2009, 02:48 PM

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haha. welcome. which batch r u from?
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post Mar 23 2009, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(aniqshamsul @ Mar 21 2009, 07:04 PM)
hye all.may i ask what is the difference between nautical studies and marine engineering?what is the job prospect for the graduates?someone?
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nautical is more towards navigation and cargo handling. engineering is more towards maintenance stuff(repair, overhaul, etc...). job prospect is same for both course. since you're sponsored, you was guaranteed a job.

QUOTE(XxAC3xX @ Mar 21 2009, 07:43 PM)
erm.. wanna ask whether if a electrical & electronics engineering degree holder cn work in dis line? hw long it takes frm thr to b able to work in the ship n earn the big bucks?
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you can try to apply for Electrical Officer. try applying for tanker-pacific.


QUOTE(silverchain @ Mar 21 2009, 08:16 PM)
erm wanna ask, after sending the application form. Will alam sent something back for confirmation that they have received it? I just sent mine, but not sure whether they have received it or not. Bcus sometimes shyt happen :/
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try to call and ask them. but i think they might have already receive ur application. but just call for confirmation.

QUOTE(JohnMax @ Mar 21 2009, 08:23 PM)
O.o, DONNO WANT OR NOT....
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just apply john. maybe you want to change ur mind after this.

Added on March 23, 2009, 4:01 pm
QUOTE(Need2Know @ Mar 22 2009, 09:54 PM)
Hi everyone. I'm new here. juz registered. umm, silverchain, mind if i ask u how did u send the application form? via e-mail right? as an attachment or as the full message body?

Added on March 22, 2009, 10:00 pmdestroyer, mind if u tell me roughly the salary i'll be getting once i graduated? and during my cadetship, i'll be gettin allowance, am i rite? how much is it roughly? cause i'm not really a rich guy...  and yeah i've sent my application already, but how will i be notified if i was chosen? or failed? and when?
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allowance is rm200 per month. onboard ship is roughly usd400 onboard ship.
QUOTE(JohnMax @ Mar 22 2009, 10:00 PM)
I saw at newspaper say not more than 23 years old..
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they seem to have increase the age limit. laz year 21.


QUOTE(budaklipas @ Mar 22 2009, 10:39 PM)
im a seafarer myself smile.gif

to become an official seafarer u need to have:
1. malaysian seafarer card (like ur IC)
2. seafarer book (like passport but green in color)

if u ask TS.. he should have that too..

Added on March 22, 2009, 11:23 pmnow almost 3 months standby at home.. nothing to do accept every month on 24th.. go to atm and withdraw salary tongue.gif

this so called recession also effect the oil & gas industry laa.. low fuel price means low fuel production, low production means no more new exploration.. no exploration means i have no job lah..

btw im working as a surveyor.. the one who guide captain to move vessel/barge into particular position for platform/pipeline installation.
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yep! i've got those documents. you're engineering or deck?

QUOTE(silverchain @ Mar 23 2009, 12:21 AM)
@Need2know: hi, yup i sent as email attachment, lets hope for good luck together smile.gif

btw,wanna ask. Since petroleum is not a renewable sources. Then it will 'extinct' someday. Wat will happen to us seafarer tongue.gif
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there are many more trading products. trade through shipping cover 90% of total work trade.


QUOTE(chidori @ Mar 23 2009, 02:10 PM)
Hello there,

regarding MEBP program, am i eligible to apply if i'm E&E Engineering?

Hope you have a great day,
Thank you
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i'm not sure. but i think cannot. try to look for Electrical officer.


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