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post Apr 15 2011, 04:40 PM

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I dont need to prove my points with argument. Let Jeff take up the case with the a labour courts an we will know. wink.gif
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post Apr 19 2011, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Apr 15 2011, 05:09 PM)
agreed with your quote. more likely to be a guinea pig or a lab rat if you ask me. sweat.gif

Anyway Jeff, do let us know the outcome.

Unfortunately, we don't have too many members who have actually posted the outcome of their dispute in labour courts. It would be great reference and precedence for everyone to proceed with.
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Then take it from me. I was in that situation before.
QUOTE(rob2789 @ Apr 18 2011, 11:22 AM)
"After confirmation of your employment, this appointment is terminable by three (3) months' notice in writing or salary-in-lieu thereof, by either the Company or by the Employee without any reason being assigned for such termination."

Given the above, if I resign from my position, can the company still refuse to the payment / salary-in-lieu and insist on the 3 months notice? NO Would there be a case where I am ready to compensate the salary-in-lieu, but the company refuses it? There are many similar case which forumers had brought up If that happens, what are my options? Did you see the big word OR in you letter? Can my manager or HR force me to serve the 3 months notice even if the contract states I have the salary-in-lieu option? NO
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QUOTE(musha01 @ Apr 19 2011, 03:48 AM)
Hi,
i have a very hard situation.
my boss really like me and refuse to let me go
but i really want to resign because the job my boss give me
is not really what i want.She say A when interview But give a 'Z" , far from my expectation when work with her!

so how to make a good reason so boss also can let me go easily?

thanks to suggestion who has been situation like me smile.gif
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Tell the truth. Tell your boss you want to do Z and do not mind doing A. When come year end assessment you can nego better increment.

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post Apr 25 2011, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(CKW008 @ Apr 25 2011, 08:58 AM)
how to defeat the nervousness and get courage to tender resignation?

i prepared evthing including the resignation letter.. just did not formally inform my superior and hand up..

hmm.. 2 months notice and i started to dislike my job but still have to bear for 2 more months..
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Learning how to be confident is not the scope of this thread. There are many material available on how to build confidence. Perhaps you can tell the thread what makes you so nervous.
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post Apr 27 2011, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(afosz @ Apr 25 2011, 09:48 AM)
Probation ends until end of month with termination period of 24 hours notice. I wish to end my contract up to probation period. Should I inform and give formal letter earlier, or just follow what's written ? My concern is the salary, where should I wait for it first ? Because I'm afraid that tender resignation earlier, salary will not be given.
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Since notice is only 24 hour then wait till you get paid first. Furry is right you get paid on a pro-rate basis but if you think you company would like to delay your pay for some reason then get the full month pay first then give notice. You will not be too concern when they still owe you a few days pay.

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post Apr 27 2011, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(afosz @ Apr 27 2011, 11:16 AM)
I'm sorry but what is pro-rated ?
Meaning to say, despite the end date of probation as stated in the letter, I should stay beyond the date until I get the pay, then leave ? Is that it ?
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Yes. Confirmation is not automatic. You are not confirm until they give you a letter.

QUOTE(afosz @ Apr 27 2011, 01:45 PM)
Ahh I see ! Thanks, but I believe the employer doesn't do pro-rated.
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You are mislead in your believe. If they dont pay pro-rate they have broke the law. Unless you are paid on a daily or piece meal basis

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post Apr 27 2011, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(afosz @ Apr 27 2011, 04:20 PM)
Meaning that I left my previous company in the middle of the month and they did not inform me anything regarding my 2 weeks of service, hence 2 weeks pay, I have the right to collect it ? What if the employer says no ? Any action I can take ?
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Yes it is your money. If they dont give write them a series of letter then forget it. You can take it take it to the labour court if not it is not that long ago but be prepared to waste some time following the procedures. It does not apply if you leave without giving proper notice.

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post Apr 27 2011, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(afosz @ Apr 27 2011, 04:38 PM)
What if as stated in contract as 24 hours termination and I follow the terms, but the employer refuse to accept it as 24 hours, requesting me to leave at the end of the month, but I still leave based on 24 hours notice.
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Yes, follow what is in the employment contract (24 hours in this case). That is theory. In practise it is best to give some leeway. As wage earners, it is never good to be on any employers bad books. Talk things out amicably is the best.

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post Apr 28 2011, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(afosz @ Apr 27 2011, 05:24 PM)
No I did not terminated due to misconduct. If that's the case, I will insist on requesting my pay then. Thank you so much for the advice. notworthy.gif
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You still have not told the thread how long ago you leave this place. If anything more than six month the labour office my not entertain you.

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post Apr 28 2011, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(SLCS @ Apr 28 2011, 11:02 AM)
Hi, I wud appreciate if anyone cud share with me or advice me on wat to do.

Secnario : My salary is above 6K. My last day with company A is on the 15 April (verbal agreement between me and the director) the company has agree to offset my annual leave and hence I was allowed to leave on the 11 April. I started with the new company on the 12 April.

Need Help : I just found out that my previous company (company A) refused to release my salary due in April

What can I do now? Please advice
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Did the director know about this? You seem to be on taling term with the director. For a start highlight this to the director.

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post Apr 28 2011, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(afosz @ Apr 28 2011, 02:33 PM)
Ahh I see, my bad. It has been six month already because it was my earnings in last October. That one I think it's alright. I need this for future reference.
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You better act fast. Past 6 months they usually dont layan.

QUOTE(SLCS @ Apr 28 2011, 11:22 AM)
The director say that he allow me to offset my leave hence my last working day is 15April but since I work on the 12 apr with a new company he has the right to stop paying. I am so confused right now.
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The director is a double faced snake. I believe had a grudge against you and is just waiting for the right time to let it out. Yes it is lawful for leave to be offset against notice so he had not problems with it. The technical point is until 15 April you are still his employee. However since you are employed while under his tenure of employment he is getting fussy about it. It is conflict of interest from a technical point of view. If you had joined a competitor is even substantial his case further.

Under normal circumstance, people are not going to get so picky with just 2/3 days. The reason must be you had stepped on his toes in the past. I guess you have to "slow talk" your money back.



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QUOTE(ben83 @ Jul 25 2011, 11:27 AM)
Guys, how to deal victimization during notice period? Can action be taken from the employee side?
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Victimisation in what form?
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Jul 26 2011, 02:08 AM)
What demotivates u?

I also want to know what employee wan nowadays.
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In this case his heart is already set on greener pastures elsewhere so there is no mood to do anymore work.

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post Jul 27 2011, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(nonoi1231 @ Jul 26 2011, 09:26 AM)
I went to the office and handed over the resignation letter enclosed the letter from the hospital. My boss acknowledged and said will inf HR to waive the 1 month notice period. After all, I wasnt fit to work.

Furthermore, wouldnt I have rights to also bring up this matter to the labor court on my behalf?
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You do not owe them a single Sen. Dont ignore the letter. Remind them that your boss said payment in lieu of notice will be waive on medical grounds. I think there is some miscommunications along the way. Perhaps your boss did not memo down the intention to waive payments.

Yes you can bring this matter up to the labour courts and the civil court (discrimination against women) but lets not go into that for now. They may just retract their letter after you have written too them. As a bank I am sure they dont want this kind of trouble.

Do let the thread know of any further developments. If they are trying to take advantage of you, I am sure there are enough forumers here with knowledge on this issue to advise you accordingly.

P/S Sorry to hear about your complication. I wish you the best in bringing forth a child to this world safely.


QUOTE(ben83 @ Jul 26 2011, 06:39 PM)
For example asking colleagues to boycott you & don't allow you to correspond with any internal company visitors or customers.
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This should not be an issue. Furthermore you cant prove it. If they boycott you when you need to interact with them for official purpose, then make a record of it. Shoot a memo to the boss that you are not getting cooperation from so and so.

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post Jul 28 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(beast_doadore @ Jul 28 2011, 11:20 AM)
I should pass my resignation letter to who???

I've 3 bosses which 2 big bosses and 1 small boss.
so I should submit my resignation letter to 1 big boss directly
or I have to pass 1 copy to my line manager and another 3 copies to each bosses one copy? confusing =.='''
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Yes, it seems to me that the line manager is you immediate boss. So write to him and cc to other 'bigger" bosses.

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post Jul 28 2011, 12:11 PM

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Address the letter to your line manager. It is proper protocol to write to you immediate superior/boss. Immediate superior does not have to own the company. A bank officer had to write to the bank manager if he need to resign. The bank manager is not the boss of the bank.

To: Line manager
cc: Boss1, boss2, boss3

You dont need to make copies since they all share the same email.
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post Aug 1 2011, 12:48 PM

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As stated you last day is 12 July. You need to compensate them from 13 July to 1 Sep.
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post Aug 18 2011, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Kyusuke_FD3S @ Aug 17 2011, 10:33 AM)
Hi everyone,

When your boss come meet you face to face, asking you why you want to resign. What is the best answer to give?

Thanks.
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You should at least tell us what is your reasons before you ask for our ideas.

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post Aug 29 2011, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(a-ei-a @ Aug 26 2011, 12:28 AM)
Just to check, If my offer letter doesn't state the probation period, and after 6 months I have not received any confirmation letter can I say that I an still under probation when resign? Does verbal conversation legal in the confirmation matter?
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You are deem confirm. People like to twist this to their favour. If you resign they will say you are confirm. If the want to terminated you they will say you are still under probation. The problem is employees usually dont bother to take this to labour office. It is easier to just move on.

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Jan 4 2012, 09:44 AM)
hi guys, if I have to serve a notice period of 3 months and I want to pay it off, how do I go about writing the resignation letter stating the date of last employment? thanks!
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You dont seem like the type that cant write. This is ot as difficult as you think. Just go straight to the point.
I hereby give to resign wef ___. I will compensate the company 3 months salary in lieu of notice.


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post Feb 13 2012, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Feb 13 2012, 08:35 AM)
nah, not yet but hopefully  biggrin.gif  long time no c u and thanks for the answer!

Do I give my resignation letter through email and hard copy as well to my direct superior cc HR manager? If the HR/direct superior doesnt approve of the payback, I can do nothing much right? How do I ensure that HR acknowledge receipt? Do I need to ask HR manazer to sign a duplicate copy of the resignation letter for my keepsake?
There is no such thing as dont accept. Just hand in your notice and walk out.
Please, the red text is understood! You dont need people here to teach you such things, do you?


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