Still,DotA is based on one map all these while.People who play DotA for years are still sticking to one map.

Also,most of the time,gamers tend to stick to one map for almost every game.

I dont see whats wrong with getting HoN.

I know,and im getting soon.

HoN isnt just one map.It's what DotA always is,with improvements on what is lacking.

My uni is under MSDNAA but they only give it for free to CSE students.

Just forget about this.Get something else like L4D2,Dragon Age(probably kill our laptops though),Torchlight(awesome,runs on max!!!),or Borderland(probably medium or high).

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Nov 2 2009, 08:44 PM

The reason that it's a fail game in the making isnt because it's a propaganda game,it's because of the whole list of other wrong decisions made by IW.

CoD series have always been portraying the Allied or USA/UK side.I dont see whats wrong with portraying them,as if they want to put you in the shoes of a terrorist,IW will probably in trouble.Like the civillian shooting scene in MW2 that was reported on CNN and the Australian government is planning to ban it.They wont want that to happen,as it's lost of sales to them.

I have been playing the single player campaigns so far and i dont even feel that it's a propaganda of Americans.There are movies out there that is far worse than CoD's campaign.CoD's campaign is always just actions or epic battles.It was never meant to show how powerful are Americans.

Besides,the Americans lost badly in CoD4 due to the nuclear strike.If it's a propaganda on how powerful are Americans,IW wont have made Americans lost in the campaign and the SAS are the ones that "win" the war in the end.The Americans part was just like 1/4 of the campaign,the rest were pretty much about Soap in SAS.MW2 is probably gonna be like that too.

I dont remember seeing anything like that being said by some fictional general.

The MP is gonna disappoint,thats for sure.

What????

Thats pretty much game breaking.Still,how often you get 25 kill streaks?

No,there isnt.

This is not a politic game.

Have you ever played a CoD campaign?

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Nov 3 2009, 07:43 AM

So,does that mean we enjoyed our hobby wrongly?

OMG,that means also i have been playing games on a propaganda on Dark Chaos Gods,Germans,and whole long list of them.

Do you want me to list them out?

I actually still remember the storyline of the movies or games that i enjoyed a lot,like CoD4,GoW,Fight Club and TDK

*gasps

It was Tzeetch behind this all the whole.

I say it will never happen.

German propaganda is a problem while making a German campaign.Without them,it feels empty.If you put too much,it will be a problem,as it offends Germans etc.I think thats the reason why most,not all game developers are reluctant of putting a German campaign.

Relic did say that it was a problem that they were designing OF's Operation Market Garden.It was pretty decent,though.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Nov 3 2009, 11:06 AM

Well,this game isnt really designed for MP anyway.Considering what they have done to the MP,note that Im not talking just about dedicated servers alone,even some of the MP perks,guns,attachments decision seems weird to me.Like i heard you only get AK-47 on Level 70,based on some rumor.WTH???Also on the post release plans where they will charge you for 3 maps.

This aint the CoD we used to love,at least for the MP side.Specs Ops seems like a good addition,though which will appeal the casual market.

Even A130 is overkill for such a small scale infantry warfare.Now,they gonna put a nuke.

If it's in a battlefield game,it wont be that bad as you can counter it with jets.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Nov 3 2009, 11:29 AM

You are still technically a good guy,even as terrorist because you are an undercover agent.

Still not gonna buy this,unless they add dedicated servers.

Yes,and it's pointless.

It's like taking a C4 to blow up the whole house just to kill an ant when your finger alone is more than enough to kill it.

Tell me which part of the game is a propaganda? Because there is Americans? The Americans are only appear in 1/4 of the whole game and IW wrote the story with a nuke wiping up thousands of American troops.If they are really spreading American propaganda,wont they make them uber powerful till even 10 nukes cant even kill a single men,rather than killing all of them,including the character you play.

CoD4's campaign is pretty much on Soap,a SAS,not a US Marine.I believe MW2 is gonna be the same.

And,have you even played CoD4's campaign? Or you just merely look at some videos,then,saw some American soldiers shooting some middle east dudes? Then,just go:"OMG,this is a propaganda game!!!!!". Or just because you are imagining that it is a propaganda.

I finished it twice,i dont even recall any propaganda in the game.The whole game is just full of action,like a brainless action movie.

Besides,it's just a game that is meant to be enjoyed.Not worry about whether that it is an American propaganda or not.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Nov 3 2009, 05:57 PM

Any of the CoD game was never a propaganda game.

If you want to talk about propaganda,some of the Tom Clancy's games are propaganda.HAWX is full of this.

If a propaganda does not show strength of a nation,whats the point of it then?

To show people are pathetic are Americans? Thats counter productive.

You clearly have no idea whats this game is on.The voice overs are the russian terrorist talking about a revenge on the Americans for invading middle east in the first game.

It's clear that you never played any CoD games and just jump in to assume it's a propaganda game.

Because it was always meant to be a game that shows the horrors of war(shown by the nuke strike) since CoD1.It was never meant to spread whoever propaganda.

It just borrows the idea from international politics and make a game that is about a story of a few soldiers.

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Added on November 3, 2009, 6:14 pmIf not,what is it for then?

Tell me then,which part of the game is full of propaganda.

Yes,i can.

Rambo is full of American propaganda.



This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Nov 3 2009, 06:14 PM

Thats why i never played any Tom Clancy games till HAWX.

CoD does none of these.

Nope.

It's just part of what CoD franchise have been doing - horrors of war.

It is,the first CoD started out with telling a tale of an American paratrooper that is dropped in Normandy,if im not wrong.

It's always about the horrors of war.

I dont see that MW1 has anything much to do with Rambo in terms of propaganda.

What the hell 5 hours and no dedicated servers.

It is a failure.

It's very sad to see how the game end up now.Complete piece of crap.

They had.

BFBC1 had dedicated servers for both 360 and PS3.

It's because of hype.

Thats true.

They always play and forget,while some PC gamers tend to stick to the same game for years.

Thats what bugs me too.

If it comes with dedicated servers and modding,i would have still buy this game.

Highlights:



So,thats why we get IWNet?

The same system used by RTS suxs a lot.





Epic failure.



Ok,didnt Steam able to do that too,with Steam Cloud and in-game save?



Disappointing,even lean isnt in the game.Reason?









They are avoiding some of those PC MP questions,clearly.There are a few questions that they just ignore.

I guess we'll never see a dedicated servers in MW2 in the future.



They should have known that P2P isnt the best experience in the first place.Still there is a little hope that rethink their decision with IWNet.



A bit on competitive side.



Ping on IWNet.

100 ping,really?

Yeah,seems like it,with all the death streaks like martyrdom,health regen(really?),and copy cat.

Guess the rumor of 4 sniper rifles is true.None of them are bolt action.

Or it could be using really optimised codes like GFWL where even 800 ping,it's still feel smooth.

Still a dedicated server is still much better.

Implementing stuff like death streaks,AC130,Nuke Strike,Sentry Guns on a 9v9 match is considered balanced? I really doubt so.Looks more like it's fun to watch than balanced.Pretty much a play for 2 weeks and forget game.

P2P is always epic fail,even with my experience in DoW2 and other RTS.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Nov 4 2009, 02:21 PM

Yes,escalating from the previous CoD is pretty much what they have been doing to CoD series all these while.Like MW1's single attachment to the current duo attachment in MW2.Thats a great addition.

Still,dont you think that things like AC130, Nukes are a bit over kill for such a small scale combat? Thats a 9v9 combat scale.

The death strikes seems like it's meant to keep casual players happy than pleasing hardcore players.

To be honest,they dont seem like doing that with MW2,and with Kotick in the office.