QUOTE(Reimao @ Apr 9 2011, 12:32 PM)
Hey guys, need some help here.
Im currently using Avene cleanser, just started using it, and also the thermal water as a substitute for toner.
I was wondering whether to get a toner since i kinda need to tighten my pores. I was thinking of getting the lotion/cream to rid off black heads and white heads, since i do have lots of black heads on my nose

So should i get the toner or the blackhead remover-thingy first?
thanx in advance guys

Toners r really optional. Thermal water shud be good enuf la as a toner. Try using a clay mask/aspirin mask 2 times a week to get rid/prevent black heads.
Added on April 9, 2011, 5:44 pmQUOTE(twho @ Apr 9 2011, 04:01 PM)
Why is it that those brands like Garnier for men, olay for men or even gilette mostly comes with cleanser and moisturizers only without an option for pore tightening toners?
Any good toners to recommend. Currently using garnier for men range cleanser.
Coz toners r optional n can always be skipped. If ur skip is really oily then u could add in a toner to ur skin care routine.
Added on April 9, 2011, 5:46 pmQUOTE(nicdanic @ Apr 8 2011, 12:12 AM)
BTW, i would like to share my own experience. I do have many pimples on my face and i tend to scratch it when i was young.maybe like 15-16.then I bought the Skin Solution + O2 products and I used like 16-18.Then I totally stop using this product when I feel this product contains high chemical ingredients especially the skin solution that contains 5% of benzoyl peroxide. and even dyed a few of my clothes punya colour. Then, I start to realized what I just used from the past.
So,I moved to dermalogica,skin food,simple,st ives,and now I am using Garnier for men.I start to feel dry after washing my face using this. I even used the Hada Labo moisturing lotion. I still wonder.Should I stop using the garnier immediately while waiting for me to finish using it and buy another product. It seems like It's hard for me to decide after using so many products. Not so sure about the other expensive products. Any suggestions for me??
Other than the Hada Labo lotion do u use any other kind of moisturizing product daily ?
This post has been edited by jonny4: Apr 9 2011, 05:46 PM