u must use all for the best. some avr even got 32 position so 6 is nothing leh

My peasant avr only got 8 positions. Pai seh...

This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Feb 18 2010, 06:23 PM

I didn't know that Audyssey can possibly has more that 6 positions..
Number of position provided must be in accordance to the size of AVR models

If a mint condition of 2nd hand older model avr-3808 selling at RM3.8k cheap or not? Is it worth the taking?

3.8k in Kuching? I got a fren wanna to sell off his 3808 too. I didn't contact him for some time.

I think you've misunderstood the purpose of multiple positions. Anyway, Audyssey recommends at least 6 positions (measurements) to accurately measure your room characteristics so that it can apply the appropriate corrections.

You should re-run the Audyssey setup.

I can't comment on the price as I dont know, but all I can say is check if this is the 3808 or 3808A. The firmware upgraded "A" version has Audyssey Dynamic EQ, Audyssey Dynamic Volume and HDMI Consumer Electronics Control (CEC). The A version should fetch slightly higher premium.

Retail was around RM5.5k-RM6k iirc back in 2009 before the xx10 series came out. Someone (i think junwei) was doing MO for $4.7k at one time.

This post has been edited by terranova: Feb 18 2010, 09:41 PM

It was just 3808 without the "A" version. I think even without "A" also equip with Audyssey Multi EQ.

Different, bro.

Got "A" is different lar.

I am using 8 positions with my current 4310 while it is 24 positions for the AS-EQ1.

Apology, there is a difference indeed.


BTW, if used 3808 unit selling at RM3.8k expensive or not coz it is Year 08 model? If not, I may consider avr-3310ci instead. What are all sifus' comment?

I have done running 6 position at 1st time, but rear channels was too loud. Maybe it was not suitable for horizontal room arrangement.
2nd time I run Audyssey for 1 position only in vertical room rearrangement and it works. I'll re-run the Audyssey setup for 6 positions soon and see how it works

the 3808's replacement model in the current Denon line-up is the 4310. By going for the 3310, there are several pros & cons (just off my head, if i remember correctly):
3808 has network streaming capabilities which 3310 doesnt
3808 has a higher wattage amp
3808 uses better DACs and video processor (and other bells & whistles e.g. AL24 processing, etc)
3808 made in Japan (if that's important to you)

3310 offers more HDMI inputs
3310 has the new GUI
3310 doesnt need the Denon ipod dock to play ipods (if that's important to you)
can't remember if the 3310 offers DSX though (maybe not).

The Audyssey is not a be all and end all final setting. However, it is a good starting point from which to make further fine-tuning and adjustments. Best to do this with an SPL meter. You can always bring down the volume of the rears.

Thanks for the input. How much is avr-3310 selling? below RM5k?

I dont think it is below RM5K as that would be only a fraction over 2310 price. Anyone can help mikapoh on this?

Just received info from Denon Hong Kong that you can now upgrade the 3310 with Audyssey DSX. Not sure if there's an upgrade fee involved.

Wonder if the Malaysian distributor will offer the same, or even if future units of 3310 will come with the Audyssey DSX built-in (perhaps called 3310A hahaha just like the 3808A).

Just thought I'd share the info.

This post has been edited by terranova: Feb 23 2010, 01:39 PM

I think the future unit of 3310 will come equipped with it. Who knows that it will be renamed as 3310A as you mentioned or 3310i.

I bet WKH will provide such service over here.

I hope not as............I just upgraded from 1909 to avr-3310!


To all the sifus, even I am using much more powerful 3310 compare to my 1909 but I find I have to crank up the volume more (below -15db) to get the same loudness. After going into the source level to adjust the volume +5db then it gets louder. If I leave it at 0db my volume have to crank below -15db to get decent loudness. Can somebody shed some lights?

I am not very sure on your case. But when I changed from 2309 to 4310, difference in SQ was quite significant.

The overall SQ is enhanced by a respectable margin too. When listening cd using pure direct mode, the imaging is well projected & instruments sound are very rich too.
It is like having a decent integrated amp.

My question is how come I need to go into the source volume in the menu to add a few db from 0db in order for the volume to sound average loud. If I leave it at 0db, I have to crank the master volume up -15db for normal listening level.