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llmaelynn87
post Mar 5 2009, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(doubleu.why.ass @ Mar 5 2009, 06:17 PM)
im sorry .. do u mean i should study graphic design in IACT or advertising course in IACT?
lol
sorry ..
so do u mean pjcad is not good?
lol
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gurl, you were saying you're interested in advertising, so I recommend you IACT & 95%


Added on March 5, 2009, 11:04 pm
QUOTE(doubleu.why.ass @ Mar 5 2009, 06:17 PM)
so do u mean pjcad is not good?
lol
haha
but ur friend still got offered a trip to hk means she cant be that bad right?
right?

lol

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I'm stressing on her pay (rm 1300) here. Her pay shows the standard of the course work at her college. You narrowed down your option to a few colleges..so I was just giving you my impression of pjcard since you're also wanting to take up graphic design right? good luck in your search for the right college =)

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QUOTE(doubleu.why.ass @ Mar 5 2009, 05:17 PM)
im sorry .. do u mean i should study graphic design in IACT or advertising course in IACT?
lol
sorry ..
so do u mean pjcad is not good?
lol
haha
but ur friend still got offered a trip to hk means she cant be that bad right?
right?

lol
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Well, the graphic design course in IACT usually will be delayed because the amount of students taking this course here are only a few so they wouldn't start the class.
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post Mar 6 2009, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Mar 5 2009, 10:55 PM)
collage's reputation will help a bit, but the real strength of the designer still depend on the portfolio. even without a cert, with suitable portfolio i'm able to apply web designer job in singapore.

regarding salary, i started of as 1700+ as a fresh grad web designer and 2k+ after 2.5 years of working in internet marketing & advertising industry. with a same amount of hardwork... i would suggest to look for other job that can bring u much more money. even u r promoted to team leader / art director position, the no day no night no life working life will continue. personally i want to get rid of this lifestyle when i want to have family.
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oh i see..
thanks for ur info..

well what are the jobs that can bring me more money ?

do u learn about web designing when u study college? i tot u studied graphic design ..
lol



well , one more thing..

Is it wiser to take multimedia design than graphic design cos multimedia design is like .. ermm how to say..
more room for ppl/improvement or demanding in the future market?
lol
i dunoe what im saying ..
forgive my english ..
lol


Added on March 6, 2009, 9:45 pm
QUOTE(llmaelynn87 @ Mar 5 2009, 11:48 PM)
gurl, you were saying you're interested in advertising, so I recommend you IACT & 95%


Added on March 5, 2009, 11:04 pm

I'm stressing on her pay (rm 1300) here. Her pay shows the standard of the course work at her college. You narrowed down your option to a few colleges..so I was just giving you my impression of pjcard since you're also wanting to take up graphic design right? good luck in your search for the right college =)
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oh.. i want to study graphic design so maybe i can get a change to do something about advertising mah ..
haha

is there a college called 95%?
lol
where is it?


thanks.. then maybe pjcad not that good?
lol
shh.. no students from pjcad here right?
lol

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QUOTE(doubleu.why.ass @ Mar 6 2009, 09:39 PM)
oh i see..
thanks for ur info..

well what are the jobs that can bring me more money ?

do u learn about web designing when u study college? i tot u studied graphic design ..
lol
well , one more thing..

Is it wiser to take multimedia design than graphic design cos multimedia design is like .. ermm how to say..
more room for ppl/improvement or demanding in the future market?
lol
i dunoe what im saying ..
forgive my english ..
lol
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dont worry, neither my english is good blush.gif. i graduated from multimedia university (major in digital media). during my uni time, i learnt how to develop flash interactive application, web design and other multimedia related like basic video & sound editing, photography and basic 3D. currently a web designer. tongue.gif

be honest collage wont teach u much on technical skills, i learn most of my design and technical skill during my working life (from colleagues and tutorial). being in collage is for you to learn how implementing creativity and function into the design process. a great lecturer should be able to give u a good insight of the latest industry practice/demand and guide ur learning process.

IMO graphic design is the basic for any visual design regardless of working as web designer, graphic designer, multimedia designer... but without a specialize skill in certain area there is a huge constraint for your career option. web design and multimedia design require more technical understand in their area and come along with better income and career development. internet is a fast growing platform while print design is the foundation of advertising & mass media. i would like to advise u to focus on at least one specialize skill other than graphic design alone, web design gives u better understanding of the promotion mechanism and the skill helps if u want to freelance.
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post Mar 7 2009, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Mar 6 2009, 11:05 PM)
dont worry, neither my english is good  blush.gif. i graduated from multimedia university (major in digital media). during my uni time, i learnt how to develop flash interactive application, web design and other multimedia related like basic video & sound editing, photography and basic 3D. currently a web designer.  tongue.gif

be honest collage wont teach u much on technical skills, i learn most of my design and technical skill during my working life (from colleagues and tutorial). being in collage is for you to learn how implementing creativity and function into the design process. a great lecturer should be able to give u a good insight of the latest industry practice/demand and guide ur learning process.

IMO graphic design is the basic for any visual design regardless of working as web designer, graphic designer, multimedia designer... but without a specialize skill in certain area there is a huge constraint for your career option. web design and multimedia design require more technical understand in their area and come along with better income and career development. internet is a fast growing platform while print design is the foundation of advertising & mass media. i would like to advise u to focus on at least one specialize skill other than graphic design alone, web design gives u better understanding of the promotion mechanism and the skill helps if u want to freelance.
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thanks again for ur advises..
i appreciate them .


that really helps me to determine which one i should opt to. .
maybe id change my mind to multimedia design after so long i tot i should take graphic design ..
but the truth is i know nothing about multimedia design .
is it ok if i still go for it ?

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post Mar 8 2009, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(doubleu.why.ass @ Mar 7 2009, 12:43 AM)
thanks again for ur advises..
i appreciate them .
that really helps me to determine which one i should opt to. .
maybe id change my mind to multimedia design after so long i tot i should take graphic design ..
but the truth is i know nothing about multimedia design .
is it ok if i still go for it ?
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it is normal if u don't understand what happen for the multimedia production. if possible do some research on the production itself. go to google and search for some tutorial like "design a movie poster with photoshop" or "draw a car with adobe illustrator", give a few try and test your interest. most likely u will be doing the similar things for another 10 years but with advance techniques. if you feel it is pretty interested and hope to do better in it, welcome to the design world smile.gif. else u might need to reconsider about taking up design course, it will be extreme torture if you dont like it where this field require constant update & building up new skill set (internet and technology grow very fast), a lot of effort to design the work and a lot of stress during the production.
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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Mar 8 2009, 02:26 AM)
it is normal if u don't understand what happen for the multimedia production. if possible do some research on the production itself. go to google and search for some tutorial like "design a movie poster with photoshop" or "draw a car with adobe illustrator", give a few try and test your interest. most likely u will be doing the similar things for another 10 years but with advance techniques. if you feel it is pretty interested and hope to do better in it, welcome to the design world smile.gif. else u might need to reconsider about taking up design course, it will be extreme torture if you dont like it where this field require constant update & building up new skill set (internet and technology grow very fast), a lot of effort to design the work and a lot of stress during the production.
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ok, i will try ..
so can u tell me are u happy with ur job now?
lol
with the not very high pay and heavy workload, do u get satisfaction from ur work ? or just stress and tireness? lol
im not asking in a rude way thou..
lol

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post Mar 9 2009, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(doubleu.why.ass @ Mar 8 2009, 10:52 PM)
ok, i will try ..
so can u tell me are u happy with ur job now?
lol
with the not very high pay and heavy workload, do u get satisfaction from ur work ? or just stress and tireness? lol
im not asking in a rude way thou..
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since this is off topic, i PMed you my reply.
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post Mar 9 2009, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Mar 9 2009, 11:07 AM)
since this is off topic, i PMed you my reply.
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ok thanks alot
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QUOTE(doubleu.why.ass @ Mar 5 2009, 07:19 PM)
oh i see..
do u mind if i ask u where you work or how much is ur monthly salary now?
its okay if u dun feel like answer me thou..
lol
well, my uncle told me that his company wll mostly hire students from TOA,MIA and Saito...

and saito offer a cheaper/cheapest course but im not sure abt the quality or whatever ..
blah.. im just very muchout of my mind right now ..
i see stars.... rclxub.gif
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I am currently working in a Post Production house at Damansara Perdana. My current salary is 2k+. Don't judge from what your uncle say. IMO that is one of the biggest mistake if people judge a designer from their place of study. I guess I don't need to elaborate any further in this point as B-Mecha had already explain it clearly. Even the quality of the college cannot be fully judge from what people said. To me it's more to luck. Imagine if you're a good student but you're studying in a bad college, that wouldn't made you a bad student. Vice versa. Mind my language please.

QUOTE(doubleu.why.ass @ Mar 6 2009, 09:39 PM)
well what are the jobs that can bring me more money ?

Is it wiser to take multimedia design than graphic design cos multimedia design is like .. ermm how to say..
more room for ppl/improvement or demanding in the future market?


Added on March 6, 2009, 9:45 pm
oh.. i want to study graphic design so maybe i can get a change to do something about advertising mah ..
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There is no such thing as what are the jobs that can bring more money. Every job in every sector could bring you money if you work for it. It depends on how hard you try. There isn't any shortcut or easy way my friend.

IMO multimedia design will have a brighter future as everything is about technology and digital now. Designer no longer using traditional way and it is very important for a designer to cope up with the latest technology to come up with a nice design in the fastest way as your client doesn't even bother the method of process you used but the end product. If it is still difficult for you to decide, take it this way instead. Graphic Design is manual (drawing, painting, etc.) while Multimedia Design is digital (computer, softwares, etc.)

The advertising market is big. Which sector are you talking about or you're looking forward to work with in the future? Both Graphic Design and Multimedia Design will lead a bright path for advertising line.

QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Mar 6 2009, 10:05 PM)
dont worry, neither my english is good  blush.gif. i graduated from multimedia university (major in digital media). during my uni time, i learnt how to develop flash interactive application, web design and other multimedia related like basic video & sound editing, photography and basic 3D. currently a web designer.  tongue.gif

be honest collage wont teach u much on technical skills, i learn most of my design and technical skill during my working life (from colleagues and tutorial). being in collage is for you to learn how implementing creativity and function into the design process. a great lecturer should be able to give u a good insight of the latest industry practice/demand and guide ur learning process.

IMO graphic design is the basic for any visual design regardless of working as web designer, graphic designer, multimedia designer... but without a specialize skill in certain area there is a huge constraint for your career option. web design and multimedia design require more technical understand in their area and come along with better income and career development. internet is a fast growing platform while print design is the foundation of advertising & mass media. i would like to advise u to focus on at least one specialize skill other than graphic design alone, web design gives u better understanding of the promotion mechanism and the skill helps if u want to freelance.
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Very well said notworthy.gif I suggest you should bring doubleu.why.ass for a TT instead as she is very curious and shows a great interest in design sweat.gif

QUOTE(doubleu.why.ass @ Mar 7 2009, 12:43 AM)
thanks again for ur advises..
i appreciate them .
that really helps me to determine which one i should opt to. .
maybe id change my mind to multimedia design after so long i tot i should take graphic design ..
but the truth is i know nothing about multimedia design .
is it ok if i still go for it ?
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You should go for it if you felt like it. For me it's simple. Let me explain how I started. I did not know a single thing about design at all upon graduating from high school but I choose design because I know I am good at it often score A's for my Pendidikan Seni tongue.gif To keep it simple I'll put it in three category. Interior Design, Graphic Design and Multimedia Design. Personally I would love to choose Interior Design but after doing some research I realize that you'll need to invest quite a fair amount of money in the future for the equipment and you'll be doing a lot of drawings and building model. Not for me doh.gif In Graphic Design I'll need to do a lot of manual drawings and paintings and you'll need to be really good in it and talented in order to cope with the other. Among the three I am most comfortable with Multimedia Design since I am a little computer literated that time and it really sounds simple and easy if you're really interested with digital stuff like software and hardware therefore I choose Multimedia Design and I had never ever regretted.

Along the period of study, I really see the student of Interior Design suffer from measuring to get the exact measurement for their line drawings and it's really killing those guys to build those tiny little model. As for Graphic Design I never missed seeing them holding their art block wandering around and everyday is about drawing and sketching and painting for them. In the end of semester they get to learn Photography though which is a good thing but you'll then need to invest on DSLR. As for me I am always wandering around in the college looking very free with empty hand. Looking very free because I can only work with computer and whenever I am in front of a computer I'll mostly browse while doing assignment therefore creating an assumption that I am very free. Empty hand is because all I need is thumb drives, hard drives and CDs. Although it sounds cool but all these three category will also suffer from staying overnight and burning midnight oil and to Multimedia Design especially.
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QUOTE(bluesky87 @ Mar 11 2009, 05:38 AM)
I am currently working in a Post Production house at Damansara Perdana. My current salary is 2k+. Don't judge from what your uncle say. IMO that is one of the biggest mistake if people judge a designer from their place of study. I guess I don't need to elaborate any further in this point as B-Mecha had already explain it clearly. Even the quality of the college cannot be fully judge from what people said. To me it's more to luck. Imagine if you're a good student but you're studying in a bad college, that wouldn't made you a bad student. Vice versa. Mind my language please.
There is no such thing as what are the jobs that can bring more money. Every job in every sector could bring you money if you work for it. It depends on how hard you try. There isn't any shortcut or easy way my friend.

IMO multimedia design will have a brighter future as everything is about technology and digital now. Designer no longer using traditional way and it is very important for a designer to cope up with the latest technology to come up with a nice design in the fastest way as your client doesn't even bother the method of process you used but the end product. If it is still difficult for you to decide, take it this way instead. Graphic Design is manual (drawing, painting, etc.) while Multimedia Design is digital (computer, softwares, etc.)

The advertising market is big. Which sector are you talking about or you're looking forward to work with in the future? Both Graphic Design and Multimedia Design will lead a bright path for advertising line.
Very well said  notworthy.gif  I suggest you should bring doubleu.why.ass for a TT instead as she is very curious and shows a great interest in design  sweat.gif
You should go for it if you felt like it. For me it's simple. Let me explain how I started. I did not know a single thing about design at all upon graduating from high school but I choose design because I know I am good at it often score A's for my Pendidikan Seni  tongue.gif  To keep it simple I'll put it in three category. Interior Design, Graphic Design and Multimedia Design. Personally I would love to choose Interior Design but after doing some research I realize that you'll need to invest quite a fair amount of money in the future for the equipment and you'll be doing a lot of drawings and building model. Not for me  doh.gif  In Graphic Design I'll need to do a lot of manual drawings and paintings and you'll need to be really good in it and talented in order to cope with the other. Among the three I am most comfortable with Multimedia Design since I am a little computer literated that time and it really sounds simple and easy if you're really interested with digital stuff like software and hardware therefore I choose Multimedia Design and I had never ever regretted.

Along the period of study, I really see the student of Interior Design suffer from measuring to get the exact measurement for their line drawings and it's really killing those guys to build those tiny little model. As for Graphic Design I never missed seeing them holding their art block wandering around and everyday is about drawing and sketching and painting for them. In the end of semester they get to learn Photography though which is a good thing but you'll then need to invest on DSLR. As for me I am always wandering around in the college looking very free with empty hand. Looking very free because I can only work with computer and whenever I am in front of a computer I'll mostly browse while doing assignment therefore creating an assumption that I am very free. Empty hand is because all I need is thumb drives, hard drives and CDs. Although it sounds cool but all these three category will also suffer from staying overnight and burning midnight oil and to Multimedia Design especially.
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ok.. so i think im taking multimedia design .
but not sure where to. .
maybe MMU?
cos most of the ppl said MMU is very good.
but does MMU offer diploma for multimedia?
i went to their website but i cant really find the information.
or should i go to IACT but IACT is more noted for their advertising is it correct?
any other college/university for multimedia design ?

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im planning to take design too. but.....same with bluesky87, im interested in interior design n graphic. but my case is more worst...im interested too in industry design , illustration , animation n fashion. Haha tongue.gif

so any of u guys know where i can take foundation in art n design?

among the courses above, which course can earn more?
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QUOTE(Kuroda Asuka @ Mar 17 2009, 01:54 PM)
im planning to take design too. but.....same with bluesky87, im interested in interior design n graphic. but my case is more worst...im interested too in industry design , illustration , animation n fashion. Haha tongue.gif

so any of u guys know where i can take foundation in art n design?

among the courses above, which course can earn more?
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Depends on where u want to go, live and skill. If u r talented (both artistically and business sense) then getting a good job aint hard and u can get rich. In Malaysia, best to go for industrial design (fixed salary). Or if u more into general design like animation, concept art, either local (if there's demand) or outsource to other countries like those that manufacture games and such (but this kind of work mainly involve a lot of networking to get infos and clients).
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QUOTE(doubleu.why.ass @ Mar 17 2009, 01:00 AM)
ok.. so i think im taking multimedia design .
but not sure where to. .
maybe MMU?
cos most of the ppl said MMU is very good.
but does MMU offer diploma for multimedia?
i went to their website but i cant really find the information.
or should i go to IACT but IACT is more noted for their advertising is it correct?
any other college/university for multimedia design ?
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MMU is the largest in Malaysia of course. Actually to me it is quite subjective as for multimedia design you can choose to help yourself learning from online resources and there are plenty of tutorial available on each and every software. The basic thing that you need that you'll need to learn from institute is the rule or design and design sense basically the foundation of design. So it really depends on your budget, living area and preferences in choosing the right institute.

QUOTE(Kuroda Asuka @ Mar 17 2009, 01:54 PM)
im planning to take design too. but.....same with bluesky87, im interested in interior design n graphic. but my case is more worst...im interested too in industry design , illustration , animation n fashion. Haha tongue.gif

so any of u guys know where i can take foundation in art n design?

among the courses above, which course can earn more?
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It's a good thing to be curious and wanting to learn each and every thing. That is what you can learn in multimedia design but only in digital field. The rest of other field will be slightly difficult depending on how hardworking you are. I suggest you to make up your mind and focus on one because that is what you'll have to do in the end of the day too you can't just run around the field like that. There will be foundation for any course you take before getting into the real thing. Like I mentioned from the post above, earning how much depends on individual this question is very subjective.
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hi guys.
can i ask one more question?

im planning to go for multimedia design in either TARC or IACT .

which one do u guys recommend?

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i heard from my friend TARC's lecturers and facilities are very bad. not sure about IACT. personally i won't go for TARC.
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really?
i went there today.
they look decent also ..

they have 3 labs with mac computers.
the students art works are ok not too bad too..

im not sure..
dont scare me
lol


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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Mar 20 2009, 11:55 AM)
i heard from my friend TARC's lecturers and facilities are very bad. not sure about IACT. personally i won't go for TARC.
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which campus ur friend went?
i visited the kl main campus

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most of the academy or university recommended need a SPM cert (at least 3 credit or passed in BM)

However, my fren's SPM result not so good, cant get the cert..

any recommendation for graphic design?

i had saw the advertisement about adcom digital hub..
anybody study there? can give some comments?
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The One academy quite good but only diploma

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