That's true. I'm currently studying foundation of creative multimedia, will be entering 3rd sem soon. Im also afraid of the expenses, especially on the camera next year. I dunno if it's a must-to-buy item, but there's people that said you could try loaning it from senior, or maybe outside provider. Aint too sure. For myself, im not rich and that thing will cost RM 2k, and u'll only be using it bcs of the photography course in a sem, 4 months time only.

What momochi zabuza said is true. However, I have to admit that all those tough challenges made the students stronger. ~.~"

Whilst saying MMU teaches more on software skills, that isnt quite true. They'll create the path for you, to stroll down to the end, become a guru in softwares, that'll be up to you. Meanwhile, to explore new things along the path, that'll be up to you too. Same thing goes for design senses. I have to admit they touched briefly on both. However, if you hold the same passion as I do, I believe you'll be finding other sources, from books, online, or somewhere else about both software skills and design senses. Then, you will improve.

This post has been edited by Resphoina: Jan 4 2009, 10:06 AM

creative media at MMU

hey there, im in the one academy taking advertising and graphic design and i find it not bad there though the campus is quite small but we are pushed very hard to work and i think its good. facilities are not bad too. near shopping malls and shoplot area so convenient and lecturers are usually young and fun. they graduate from the college itself but there are also guest lecturers. if ure worrying about the price, u wont get good education coz it is priced higher for a reason, the recognitions and achievements. my fees are about 56k for the whole diploma programme. and the way they push u is that, whenever u finish a semester and u failed at least one subject u cannot move on to the next semester until u pass everything so ur skills will be polished to make sure u reach the next sem and not just graduate without skills and capabilities. do not try sunway college's designing programme. i have a classmate that quit that programme and come to our college because he said he dint learn anything, its a waste of time and money. u can try pjcad too heard its not bad. hope this helps:)

none. it all depends on yourself.

Yes. Kinda agree with Naota-kun. Which place to further ur study is actually to brush up urself, and expose urself to that field before entering the actual one. Somewhat, to become a good one or not, it depends on urself, ur talents, ur hardwork and interest. Bad school produces good students, whilst good school produces bad students as well.

oh my god.. ur post really freaked me out... i tot my only options would ne sunway bcos its cheaper and all ..

the one academy n lim kok wing are just too expensive..

i think maybe i should consider some other college..

wat about Dasein? anyone know anything abt it?
please tell me more

thanks everyone

I'm studying in the one academy , taking multimedia design.
i think toa is pretty good

raffles is in the middle of kl , pjcad student management sucks and dont start with me bout lkw. hahaha
i have friends who go there for masscomm , music and fashion design so no comment.

its really up to you , be prepared with the chinesenism in toa thats if youre coming.

you really need the passion to put up with the stress ofcourse.

i choose to be in toa last minute like the next day registration for january intake

Open University anybody check it out already?

if u want cheaper, why dont u try go Dasein and query... its located at setapak.
i heard from my friends who r studying there say that quite a number of one academy students who cant tahan the rising fees come over to dasein to study (can any one akademi students confirm this?), but my friends artworks are quite impressing too.
but if im not mistaken they seperate multimedia and graphic design course.

i also have another friend studying multimedia design in one academy and his artworks is most impressing

cheapest place u can study design in tarc....but dun ever go or else u'll regret...

This post has been edited by jasonlim1: Jan 8 2009, 01:16 AM

oh..ive heard of dasein too, but i seldom hear ppl talk abt it here so..

where is the dasein institute? isit near petaling street ?

if im goin to tarc maybe i wont study design , might study advertising or other course.no point wasting time n money there studying graphic design there..
what are the better courses in tarc ? lol

anyone has any idea?

dasein is near wangsa maju carrefour there....its quite near to tarc setapak actually....

i think only business courses in tarc is ok lor (but u better do more survey la)

btw im a 2nd patch multimedia design graduate from tarc and currently doing advertising in utar... dun ask me why i changed my course...coz i also duno...i did it for the lulz....

is dasein good? as in a quality institute for graphic design..

my friends sister is taking advertising in utar too..
last time i saw her she was watching chicago over n over again for her assignment or something..

ive tot of stepping into the advertising field,thats the reason why i wan to take graphic design.. but ive been thinking abt taking advertising too.. it seems like theres more chance to have a job in the advertising field but my frends's sister isnt planning to do advertising after she graduates... leaves me wonder.. lol


wat are lulz?
lol

Dasein is quite good in quality as far as what i have heard from my friends.

There is no such thing as more chance to get a job nowadays....when u graduate from any course also you'll be getting a hard time finding a job....unless you're extra good in what u do...

If youre really into graphic i suggest u venture into multimedia design which you will learn 3d, motion graphics and web design...Playing with softwares such as Adobe flash, adobe after effects, 3ds max is kinda fun when u finish ur artwork but during the process you'll get a big headache....

Join more competitions to gain experience while ur still studying...and if u won some medals in these competitions, it would be an added advantage to get you hired for a job

i dont plan to do advertising after i graduate too...to be honest i kinda regret to not further my studies in the multimedia design field...


lulz kinda stands for fun...

This post has been edited by jasonlim1: Jan 10 2009, 03:10 AM

MMU or Lim Kok Wing University

but i heard dasein has not multimedia courses..

i wan to study graphic design basically is bcos i couldnt think of anything else that interest me.. and i like to draw with pen or pencil .. even when i study resulting the not so remarkable results ..lol
but not so sure about handling softwares or computer 3D stuff.. but i know 3D or multimedia this are very useful and its important so i better study abit abt it also la.. haha

do u mind telling me wat course are u taking now?
what job or field would u like to venture into after u graduate?

=]

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Added on January 10, 2009, 11:18 pmCreative Media in MMU ?
they have foundation on creative media...
but after foundation.. the have afew degree courses but i dont really understand wat the courses are..
=.=
dam paiseh

whats interface design n media innovation n digital media?
n virtual reality?

just to clear my head off...
lol

This post has been edited by doubleu.why.ass: Jan 10 2009, 11:18 PM

even for graphic design...its about handling softwares such and adobe photoshop and illustrator and good imagination (good drawing skills comes in handy when u want to present your idea to ur clients on the spot)....well, theres always digital drawing using
"vacom" (duno how to spell it) for sketching. even for 3d animation, you'll need to do some sketching before u start modeling it.

and as i had posted in earlier posts, i had a diploma in multimedia design and now currently pursuing degree in advertising
after i graduate...i dont intend to do advertising (juz like ur sis fren) nor multimedia design. hav to take care of family business which has nothing to do with what i had studied before...lolz

erm dude
take your time have a look 1st X D

how do you guys define good in the design school?

yeap.. i think if im taking design course graphic design is wat im gonna go for ..

oh i see.. well atleast u have a family busines to take care of..

im actually kinda freaked out that ppl keep telling me that the salary is pretty low for a graphic designer.. u see.. the thing is im not just making money for myself.. i think i need to provide for my family too ..after all my parents cant work forever right?
so if its really true that the salary does not look good im afraid that i have to opt for another course to study like accountancy or business or watever..
cos im scared that my parents pay the high course fees for me to study design courses and at the end i get very low pay job which is not something that anyone would like isnt it?

cos thats wat almost everybody go for and they always tell me that all companies need ppl to count money they want many accountants or something like that .. so atleast u hav a safer job n theres always room for accountants. .
(something that is not so risky i guess thats the way to put it,or something that will make money or more profitable such as busniess studies,oil n gas engineers or other engineer or pilot n aviation they make money lol)

but the problem is i dunoe i can tahan looking at numbers or not cos i suck at maths n add maths

im sorry this is so long winded.. im just a lost kid trying to find the right way out.. very confused..

or have anyone heard anything about design or art management course, its more like a management program..
i heard of it for the first time today ..pjcad is offering the course..

anyone heard of Alfa art college?

the lecturer told me Dasein is more popular among chinese so it might not be so er.. international?
compared to other college which hav both chinese and foreign cultures .. which is mixed la..
i dunoe if its important or not .. but i think i would like to sharpen my english speaking skill as u can read that im not that fluent in english , written maybe but speaken i tend to stutter abit n the words i needs dont usually come up when i need them.. lol

and also anyone know anything about pjcad's graphic design course?

i think ive listed down to dasein, alfa and pjcad..


well .. i can say that goin to edu fairs created more troubles for me..

oh n btw..jasonlim.. my form5 classmate has the same name as u .. haha

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Added on January 12, 2009, 2:02 amlol
actually ive been looking everywhere already .. i dun wan to start so late too ..
ive went to many educational fairs ..
n i think i finally settle down with graphic design but i get more n more worry abt the decision that ive made...
n now im like 80% graphic design 20% (somethng else) lol
-.-
talk about determination..


er.. i think mostly will be the reputation or the college/university, quality or the students n graduates,n teachers, their teaching methods n so forth..



This post has been edited by doubleu.why.ass: Jan 12 2009, 02:02 AM

As far as i know, graphic designers pay is quite low at the beginning but in the long run, im not sure...art directors pay is high lolz...
my english sux too...half bucket oni

and yah...dasein majority is chinese....i dont remember seeing any other races when i go and find my friend there...
its ok to ask alot of things...we duno thats why we ask...
oh ya... im bad at maths too...failed my add maths XD

but the most important thing is that u need to keep pushing urself and keep learning/exploring no matter what college/uni you're in.

jason is a very common name i have a few friends named jason too but not the same surname

TS, be honest to you, graphic designer is really really low pay job (especially fresh graduate, 1200-1600 omg). if u really think about earning good money, u need to either have really good skills to apply MNC agencies, or start your own freelance / company to take design job. start building your network, join those exibition, design show to increase ur exposure. if u think of working in small design house, most of them will promise tons of work, low pay, many OT (usually they dont pay ur OT). It is normal for agency to state the job requirement with u need to MULTITASK (maybe 5-7 small project?)+ TIGHT DEADLINE (2 day for a website?)+ WORK UNDER HIGH STRESS ENVIROMENT. yea i know this sounds depressing but this is the truth, very little client will pay much for design.

a slightly better position could be production field where they might pay u better depending on your position (editor, motion graphic artist, 3D, VFX etc). but u might have really weird working hours if involve filming. web designer provide better salary from the start. but it would require you to have both creative skills and minor scripting knowledge like html, css, javascript, flash which will easily boost your salary to 2k+.

if u really passionate for design, other than ur normal assignment, u must keep track with the latest design trend, software / tools. Always look for tutorial and do better and better. you might seems good in uni / college but your skill could be 3 years behind the industry standard. dont be like me...only know how to play online game last time (i would be so much better if i invest 20% of my online game time to study).

never heard of the 3 college u mentioned there, if u want a better & more recognize degree cert, MMU is worth it.