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 The Suiting Thread V1, Suit/Tuxedo/Sportcoat/Blazer

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post Jun 14 2009, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(JPTran @ Jun 14 2009, 03:45 AM)
Hello. I've been trying to find a good fitting suit for a long time now, but I've had no success.

I'm 5'7, and my chest size is 30.5. Does anybody have any recommendations?
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hmmm a 30.5 inch chest is rather small and wld definitely be difficult to get a good fitting suit, what will likely happen in your case is that the shoulders of a suit jacket size 34 mite fit, but what you will have is the lapels of the suit "popping out" forward when you button up because they do not fit snug at the chest.. so in other words they may not look good..

you could possibly want to get a custom made.. think of it as an investment =)

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post Jun 14 2009, 07:45 PM

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its cool, cant be picture perfect all the time.. truth be told, the reason why magazine shots look so great is because everything is adjusted for that perfect shot (some may even be photoshopped, and i wont even be surprised if their clothes are pinned up behind), in real life we have movements and different camera angles, etc..


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finally here's my brother's suit from granoff..

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overall my brother's very happy with the suit.. i think the lining's great, the body lining is pink, where else the sleeve and pocket piping lining is purple-ish stripes.. which i think really goes well with the whole shade of color - navy suit, purple lining, pink lining.. we originally asked for a 4 button on the sleeve but it turned out to be 5.. so its actually alright, my brother doesn't mind, he can choose to first button anyway since their functional button holes.. i was expecting a much darker buttons, something more like chocolate dark brown, but surprisingly i actually like the current buttons, they kind of add more character to the suit, oh and these are horn buttons as well, (apparently my Lord's suit are also attached with horn buttons)..

so yeah, this is the suit, feel free to comment smile.gif

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post Jun 14 2009, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(silverstan @ Jun 14 2009, 09:32 PM)
your brother are slim type? i think his pants can be slim a bit (slim fit), his legs will look longer and more balance to match his top. Just what i thought when i see your brother's pic. tongue.gif
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yeah i personally feel it should be abit slimmer but my brother wants it like that.. we'll see how, can still get it slimmed down abit later.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(calvinloke @ Jun 14 2009, 10:23 PM)
Good Gosh! How can they do 5 buttons on the sleeves when you originally requested for four? I had never heard of 5 as the standard for any bespoke tailors. Now this is serious business once it comes down to functional buttonholes. No turning back after the holes were cut. I would be really angry if I were you brother. Why isn't the jacket buttoned? sad.gif
Great fit on the suit FusionEX,
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yeah.. but then again nothing can be done already about the buttons.. no point fussing about it.. i didnt post up a pix of the jacket buttoned cos the pictures were a little blur, anyway here's one:

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post Jun 15 2009, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(FusioneX @ Jun 15 2009, 07:05 PM)
Judging from the pictures, it seems that your brother is somewhat slimmer than you or maybe it was the silhouette created by the suit. Anyway, I have to agree that the pants seems too loose if compared to the closely-cut jacket. It would be better to balance both suit articles to avoid to much contrast between the fit of the top and bottom. Regarding the cuff buttons: 4 is the best, 2-3 are commonly found in some older jackets but 5 is out of place.
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yeah i'll talk to my bro to see if he wants to get the pants slimmed down, i was in fact pissed at first that the buttons came out 5.. but nothing can be done about it.. the best i can think off is to hide the first button by not buttoning it.. other than that i think the jacket fit looks great judging from that last photo.. what do you guys think of the jacket fit?

after getting two custom suits done, im still not able to see the "better fit" of getting a bespoke.. what do you guys think?

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post Jun 16 2009, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(gil~gil @ Jun 16 2009, 01:04 PM)
wave.gif hi everyone i'm new at here and do u guys know where i make suit with a reasonable price ? and then full set  suit cost it how much ?
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hmmm there has been talk around here about a tailor named "Peter" in Amcorp Mall.. two piece suit for around RM600.. thats kinda reasonable priced but you'll get polyester material.. Sparkman shop prices start at RM800+ for a two piece..
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post Jun 17 2009, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(gil~gil @ Jun 17 2009, 02:01 PM)
drool.gif that was a good reasonable price there 2 piece suit around Rm600 then what about the making quality ? but do u know what is the name of the shop or located which floor ?

and 1 more thing can u give me some advise about is me suitable to wear suit ? because my body was very slim so i scare when i wear it looks not nice some more me dont like to wear tie so is the suit need to wear tie then look nicer ?
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well first question, why do you intend to make the suit?
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the RM600 one i mentioned earlier is called "Peter Tailor" in Amcorp Mall.. not sure about the craftsmen quality..

its fine if you choose not to wear a tie, its not forbidden to go without a tie when suiting up.. just depends on whether you want to look more or less formal..
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QUOTE(gil~gil @ Jun 17 2009, 05:18 PM)
okei thankx  thumbup.gif  this few day i will go there have a visit . but how about u ? where u make your suit ?
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i've made one from Lord's tailor and my brother has done one from Granoff.. pictures of the suit have been posted in this thread.. click back to view..
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the jacket doesn't look as fitted to me as the others which you have recently posted.. and it doesnt balance out as the pants looks really slim compared to the jacket.. is this a size 36 as well?

QUOTE(FusioneX @ Jun 17 2009, 06:04 PM)
Speaking of which, the price to quality ratio of RM1500 tailor-made suits in this country is considered quite good. If you go to the west, a tailor-made suit of similar quality can cost around RM5000 and up. Do you know that there is quite a number of Americans who prefer to have their suit tailor-made in Hong Kong, or even Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore due to the price factor?
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yupp definitely.. in the states, a tailor made suit of similar standard will cost the same 1500, but in american dollars..

QUOTE(gil~gil @ Jun 17 2009, 06:19 PM)
ohmy.gif then i need go have some survey 1st lor ......... shakehead.gif Rm5000 that really expensive but actually all tailor are not same right ? i mean the suit construsction and suiting ?
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for the RM600 price tag, i dont think you need to survey and think that hard.. its pretty simple, the material is going to be polyester, unless you're thinking of getting "proper" suiting material which is made of wool (cost about RM1300 and up), then don't bother scratching your head much.. just learn what type of cutting you wld like (classic, slim) and the suit details (no. of buttons, type vent, type lapel) and go for it =)
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i think ive heard of some sport jacket from zegna which helps let out heat.. im sure there's no air con there but apparently it helps keep a little cooler..
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QUOTE(bkfeng89 @ Jun 20 2009, 02:05 PM)
Hey guys just wanted to ask, is it possible to get a suit for the price range of RM 250 - RM 350? ( preferably within RM300, which means the most budget available in the market )
Need to get a suit for my college prom, and dun have that much money to spend sad.gif
Brand doesnt matter la, i was told can get Pdi and Seed suits for around that price?
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Reject Shop, Brand's Outlet and FOS.. the jacket itself will cost RM300 in stores like Seed.. you might need to add about RM100 for that brand range..
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QUOTE(ojp @ Jun 27 2009, 11:22 AM)
Guys,
this is the suit from vincent ....feel free to comment
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hmmm basically what Fusion[eX] said..

from what i can see the drape of the material tends to bunch up as you can clearly see from your second picture on your left hand.. from what i can tell, you probably have quite a good body, however the suit doesn't compliment your physique.. you may want to get it more tapered at the waist as well to give your body a v-shape.. and yeah go for a slimmer tie as well unless you're over 45 =)

go back to your tailor and get them altered..

here's the basic important issues you should suggest to your tailor since its already done and i dont know to what extent is he willing to alter and since you may have a specific time frame before you want to wear your suit:

1) sleeves are slightly too long.. may need to shorten half-an inch? (but it really depends on your shirt as well)
2) chest is too roomy, get them tapered at the chest.. (they should feel solid when you wear and not feel loose)
3) get them tapered at the waist to get a better curve.. (so you'll get a v-shape)
4) trousers need to be slightly slimmed and shortened.. tell him you want a single break..
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QUOTE(ojp @ Jun 28 2009, 09:40 AM)
Hi All,
Thank you for all your suggestions, actually when i went for 2nd fitting i also feel the chest is too roomy as well as the trouser...told the tailor but he convince me not to alter it as i'm too skinny ... and i'm lack of experience in this and thus din insist to alter it as i afriad i might ended screw up the whole suit...now i'm thinking to bring to other tailor for alter as they kinda old fasion and not willing to accept customer request..how u guys think ? any suggestion ?
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basically if you bring it to another tailor, their going to charge you for the alterations.. so its really up to you.. or mayb you should just bring it back to vincent and get the alterations done there.. tell him you WANT these alterations to be done.. otherwise if you want to alter elsewhere.. let me know, i'll help you out..
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QUOTE(ojp @ Jun 28 2009, 10:01 PM)
Thanks for the offer, Jind .. really appreciate it ... today i just asked another tailor abt the alteration, they said the alteration will need a lot of works and usually they will charge another rm200 to rm500 depending on wat kinda alteration i needed. I've tested one of the suit the tailor made and i feel good...but i guess its no good to spend another round just for alteration so i guess i will go back to vincent and see wat happen....basically the chest is too roomy right ? vincent said my shoulder are wide and not advisable to make so tight suit...and the trouser, i really feel its a bit loosen and they told me that if i make it too tight the suit will look bigger than my trouser....

actually the uncle in the tailor quite nice, just tat sometimes he just didn't pay attention to my request and other worker from vincent tailor doesn't seems to be friendly...just always convince me to take it without alteration....kinda frustrated...
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the suit on the left below looks pretty similar to the one you have now..

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as you can see alot of excess cloth in the body area giving no shape to your body.. compare to the picture on the right, you can clearly see the suit is more trim, because the jacket is slim fitted, therefore you can make the pants slim fitted as well.. and at the left picture his end of his pants is bunched up on his shoe, unlike the right suit which falls right on top of his shoe..

and btw, the left picture he is also wearing a wide tie (which in no way helps his baggy suit).. take a look at the right picture where he wears a slimmer tie and see if you're able to notice how it helped compliment his look..
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QUOTE(bkfeng89 @ Jun 28 2009, 10:47 PM)
Hey guys, i got a suit from G2000 for RM199! (original price RM699, clearance sale  rclxms.gif  )
But the thing is, the shoulder area is slightly too broad, and the waist area is abit roomy as well. Can this be altered? And around how much would it cost? Any recommendations appreciated..
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hmmm, very limited alterations can be done on the shoulders, in fact it is not advisable to purchase a suit especially if the shoulders do not fit.. therefore im not too sure whether you can get your shoulders done.. even if you could it would probably cost about RM100.. the waist area isnt much of a problem.. that would cost about RM50..

post up a picture of you wearing the suit so we can take a look and give more advice..
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QUOTE(ojp @ Jun 29 2009, 02:18 PM)
Thanks for the info....one question, i just afraid that vincent tailor might screw up the whole suit if i demand for much tighter and slim suit...how u think ?
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i really cant comment on whether he wld screw it up further.. its really up to you.. is the suit fully custom made? im going to meet the tailor from of granoff this saturday.. if you'd like you can come bring your suit and see what the tailor thinks.. btw when is your wedding?

this is why it is always recommended to bring someone of knowledge with you when getting your suit.. you should have posted up pictures of the first fitting for us to comment when major alterations can be easily made..


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QUOTE(bkfeng89 @ Jun 28 2009, 10:47 PM)
Hey guys, i got a suit from G2000 for RM199! (original price RM699, clearance sale  rclxms.gif  )
But the thing is, the shoulder area is slightly too broad, and the waist area is abit roomy as well. Can this be altered? And around how much would it cost? Any recommendations appreciated..
Thanx biggrin.gif
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i've got a friend in a similar case, he purchased a topman suit jacket for like RM500+, he's tall and thin, i'd say a size 36, however the suit jacket he purchased was a size 40.. and now he's coming to me and asking that he wants the suit to be altered.. i told him it might be pretty hard because the jacket is too big for him and lots of alterations need to be done in this case.. however he doesn't believe so, he's completely oblivious to the fact that he's wearing a jacket too big for him..

this is what i believe is the number 1 problem when the general population purchases a suit jacket, they usually always buy suit jackets which are a size or two too big..

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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Jun 29 2009, 08:34 PM)
I would advise against posting a suit you already have up here (evenmoreso if you JUST PAID for it) and ask if it's a good fit. You already paid for it! You really don't want people on LYN telling you that what you paid for SUCKS!

So just be happy with it. That's one of the reasons I'm not so keen on sharing pictures tongue.gif After all, when you bought it you were really happy with it. That's the point of buying things isn't it, getting something you really want. Don't go asking for opinions because you'd probably hear something you don't like.

A good time to ask would be during the fitting session. That's when massive adjustments can be made. If it's a done deal, I'd rather have my own innocence and peace of mind.
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in a way i agree with you, if you're happy with what you got.. then the opinion here doesnt matter as there are differences in preferences.. but ojp doesnt have much knowledge on suiting, so it would be best he get a third person's point of view in time where he is still able to perform alterations on them smile.gif
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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Jun 30 2009, 02:59 PM)
Hello gentlemen,

I need a little help. Please take a look at these pictures, can someone tell me if these are actual suits (if yes what material are they) or if they really are sports jackets or blazers:

http://www.saint.org/blog/uploaded_images/...-dvd-738549.jpg

http://www.tvovermind.com/wp-content/uploa...rn-notice-3.jpg

http://media.photobucket.com/image/burn+no...notice.jpg?o=65

Also is the shirt that the guy is wearing considered those oxford cloth button downs?

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yes those are indeed suits, the first two pictures are khakis suits which are considered less formal and are mainly used during summer.. the last picture is a grey suit..

its hard to tell if the shirt is a button down because i cant clearly see the shirt collar.. button down simply means the shirt has an additional two buttons to keep the tip of the collar buttoned to the shirt..
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QUOTE(LinctusForte @ Jun 30 2009, 11:08 PM)
yeow... my new suit... first one in fact.. the tailor in PJ did a good job, well at least he did what i wanted.. he is very patient and listens to what i want. i tried the coat 3 times and altered little here n there before he finished the work.

me planning to make another one.. silver color with a softer fabric.

errr... first pic the left sleeve a bit shorter coz i did not pull it properly. sorry for poor quality photos.

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in short, good fit i'll say, but the sleeves appear too slim i think.. it looks as if your shirt sleeve is cramped up inside.. or maybe you should just get shirts with sleeves which are more trimmed.. personally i'd go for a slightly lower button stance, just a little.. but yeah i like it =)

btw don't fasten your second button, they are meant to be kept unbuttoned..

what material is this? and how much did you pay for it if i may ask?

mind posting up some pictures of your whole body so we can see your pants as well? =)

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