Yea, cheras area we used sent customer to MB Car cooler to fix. I just fixed mine CRV's condenser recently. With my new condenser, cooling coil and valve~ the air cond so cold now.

for the address I will PM you tomorrow when i back office. You can search google map for his workshop, kinda inside ~

Hi,

hmm, to check whether is the cooling coil leak, they will throw the coil into the water to check whether got air bubbles show.

But sometimes some minor leaking from piping or condenser also can happen.

You can have a look the picture for our DAI. Charade Aura G100 coil


Price: Rm120

Hi, do you have a sample photo for the receiver drier? If not mistaken, it will looks like photo below

I do face the same problem as you last time for my Honda CRV 97.

This might due to a few problems.

1) Did not service your car A/C for long time. (Expansion valve, gas refill, receiver drier, cabin air filter)


2) Your condenser A/C fan is not working, it is design to help you condenser to release heat fast

3) By flushing your cooling coil, condenser during your A/C service, it will helps your A/C gas flow more smoothly, that will help.

I do post Honda Civic 1.8 year 2004 condenser photo on my previous page 2, link as below.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/871062/+20?

This post has been edited by K-Max: Apr 20 2010, 09:19 PM

Hi fren,

A normal service,

Labour = RM120 (remove your cooling coil and wash with coil cleaner, using recycle machine to vacuum out your A/C gas and pass through is built-in filter to clean up)

Replace new expansion valve, and receiver drier, and air filter as well. (cost you about Rm100~120)



Sometimes can smell outside exhaust smell:-

try check the button on/off that allow outside air to come in is turn off.

If that does not help, i guess the cabin air cover didnt close properly. When you do your a/c service, you can ask them to check, they can simply add some foam tape to seal it.

Recycle gas = reuse back your gas inside your car a/c system, and also the gas will be filter by the machine and goes back to your car a/c. My office is located at Tmn Connaught, but i am sorry we do not provide any installation or fixing services, cause we are wholesalers. Maybe I can intro you some workshop near Cheras.


Hi happyguy,

The workshop ask you to replace the compressor to " try " to solve the problem?? He must be joking, seriously.

Leakage can be anyway, it can be cooling coil, condenser, the join of the liquid tube, hoses part and etc. Is it possible for the compressor to leak? Yes, it is but rare, unless you just replace another unit re-built compressor, due to the poor O-ring rubber or they did not even change a new O-ring rubber.

AE101 compressor is just normal Denso 10PA15C, which will cause you about RM300 for a re-built.

I recommend you to check with others workshop to ensure the correct part to be replace, or else just waste unnecessary $$.

This post has been edited by K-Max: Apr 27 2010, 12:57 AM

For the price I will let you know when I back office tomorrow. Of course our price will be cheaper.

By the way, the workshop just ask you change a recond compressor + refill gas + air filter ??

I recommend you to change the receiver drier, expansion valve as well, 4 years old drier and expansion valve should be replace as well or else your new recond compressor may not last long. Drier is too absorb moisture in your a/c system, so that your internal parts like compressor piston will not get rusty. As for the expansion valve, it is somehow control the coolness of your cooling coil.

For your info:
How about your car A/C gas? Have you check the gas level cause it might be the problem for your a/c not cold.

This is the cooling coil for AE101 R12 gas (RM200) ; Expansion valve Rm80




NOTE: For the cooling coil and the expansion valve, 2 types available.

R34 or R12.

Hi Foong83,

This should be the cooling coil of your car model.

Hyundai Getz Laminated cooling coil (short pipe)


This post has been edited by K-Max: May 17 2010, 10:38 PM

stale smell ?? Is it smell like icy or watery? Will your problem fixed after you pump the gas?

I am quite sure that valve do not cause " smell " problem. Unless there is leakage problem from the cooling coil.

If there is water dripping out, either your cooling coil casing did not seal properly or the connection of the rubber hose for the water to drip outside the car loosen.

Hi,

either your a/c condenser fan is not functioning well or your compressor pressure not good.

When you maintain stationary, try step on the acceleration pedal to gain higher RPM at 2,000 ~ 3,000. If you feel cold by doing this, means your compressor did not perform well like last time.

For the A/C fan, it helps your condenser to release heat, if it is not functioning, while stationary your air cond will not feel cold. Unless when your car is moving, with the air blowing away the heat will makes ur air cond feel cooler.

hi mshukri,


As I know, inside your a/c system there is a part name thermistor and thermostat, it is design for temperature control.

Or, there is a switch attach biside Waja Patco compressor, if the compressors get too hot, it will also cut off the compressor power.

You need a normal air cond service, they will take out your cooling coil and use chemical to clean it. I guess the coil will be very dusty. Since you have replace new drier, you might just replace your expansion valve as well.

As for during hot sun a/c not cold, normally is the a/c condenser fan motor problem due to release heat slow.

Bro,

For your problem, same as above. Check your a/c fan motor, see whether functioning.

If you do not feel cold when car is not moving

Secondly, switch your gear to "P" or "N", try step on for acceleration pedal ; stop at about 2,500 RPM and check whether cold air is coming out (this is for testing your compressor providing enough pressure or not )

Hi Jamescc,

Car production after year 1994, R-12 gas was no longer to be used on new car since it is not environment friendly. Which means, all car after year 1994 will be R-134a gas system.

Or you can tell by looking your on the sticker or label under your windscreen near the engine area.

Proton wira air-conditioning system assembly by either

1) PATCO
2) SANDEN
3) UCM
4) NIPPON DENSO (ND)

Hmm, I need sample to make sure what is the price of your compressor. Perhaps, your Pajero model and year??

Perodua Kancil Cooling coil

4 Models available as pictures show below:

APM model


Denso model


Panasonic model


Sanden model

1) A/C Condenser fan not functioning

Without a/c fan to help release the heat from the condenser, car a/c system will not feel cold. When car start moving, wind from outside blow towards the condenser helping it to release the heat, than u will feel the cold.

2) Compressor fail to provide enough pressure at low RPM

When ur car not moving, gear at "N" position. Try step on the accelleration padel and reach 3000 RPM and hold it for a while. If you manage to feel cold by doing this, means your compressor is not in the good condition. ( Lower RPM mean compressor turning speed lower, pressure given will synchonize with the engine RPM)

3) Dusty cooling coil & air filter

By normal air-cond service will do to fix it.

How about your a/c gas? Issit enuf? Lack of refrigerant gas also will cause it.

We are selling car a/c spare parts only, for the moment we do not have own workshop yet. Hope next time can expand one

Hi auzara,

Regarding your problem, I would like to know do the workshop provide you any warranty (etc. like waive the labour charges and refrigerant gas)?

Since your 1 month after you fix your car a/c, now get hot again. I suspect this is the leaking problem. For your information, place that leaking normally happen on cooling coil, condenser, the piping connection, from compressor body.

Leak detection method:

Method 1: Soap test
Method 2: UV light refrigerant leak detection
Method 3: Refrigerant leak detection using electronic device

Even a new cooling coil also will have the chances to leak, please confirm the exact leaking point, or else this is waste of time by replacing here and there with the word "maybe". This doesn't sound professional workshop for me.

You can get your own parts and ask them fix it (but "most" of the workshops they dun like it, due to warranty matter and most important they "might" earn lesser) So you need to remind them u have already fix here once, see how they feedback.

Anyway, if you still remember. I do have Mit Storm cooling coil & condenser picture. You can have a look see whether suit your car model. (Since some imported car may differ)

Mitsubishi Storm L200 Condenser


Mitsubishi Storm L200 Cooling Coil

Kancil cooling coil should be the 4 models, the one you u mention is Hyundai Getz coil

Check page 5 for the cooling coil post

This post has been edited by K-Max: Oct 18 2010, 03:45 PM