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 NOKIA N97!, Nokia New Flagship Smartphone

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post Dec 19 2008, 11:42 PM

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N97 is good but could have been better

If only it came with 8 megapixel camera
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post Dec 19 2008, 11:53 PM

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i am sure a 8megapixel means a bigger sensor, bigger sensor means bigger phone. bigger phone with qwerty means THE BIGGEST PHONE. I think it's just getting silly with all these MP race among phone makers. 5MP is good enough, heck even 3.2 MP is good enough for a compact cam.
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post Dec 19 2008, 11:57 PM

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they should learn to use CCD sensor with optical zoom like those J-phones instead.
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post Dec 19 2008, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 19 2008, 11:53 PM)
i am sure a 8megapixel means a bigger sensor, bigger sensor means bigger phone. bigger phone with qwerty means THE BIGGEST PHONE. I think it's just getting silly with all these MP race among phone makers. 5MP is good enough, heck even 3.2 MP is good enough for a compact cam.
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use samsung's mini sensor tongue.gif
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post Dec 20 2008, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(booooster @ Dec 19 2008, 11:59 PM)
use samsung's mini sensor  tongue.gif
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Omnia is 8MP? Not 5MP? The bigger the sensor, the better. Anyway, there are pros and cons between CCD and CMOS. CMOS tends to be less noisy at higher ISO range. Or am i mistaken?
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post Dec 20 2008, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 19 2008, 11:57 PM)
they should learn to use CCD sensor with optical zoom like those J-phones instead.
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some guys over esato forum reported that the SE C905 outperformed 8mp CCD equipped J-phones. it even make japanese envy. jphone is jphone, they have their own greatness, but not always better than international brand phones. jphone is imho specifically made for what japanese want, while international brand will make for what the whole world will want. mind you, many japanese always carry digicam in their handbag or slingbag/carry bag, not like malaysian.

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post Dec 20 2008, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 20 2008, 12:03 AM)
Omnia is 8MP? Not 5MP? The bigger the sensor, the better. Anyway, there are pros and cons between CCD and CMOS. CMOS tends to be less noisy at higher ISO range. Or am i mistaken?
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post Dec 20 2008, 12:21 AM

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A bigger megapixel number should come with a bigger piece of sensor. Otherwise, noise will start to influence the picture. If DSLR 8MP would be nice. Mobile phone with camera? Nah.... they should just focus on making the module as small as possible and the MP count should accommodate that module to to maximize the quality, that would be fair enough.
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post Dec 20 2008, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 20 2008, 12:21 AM)
A bigger megapixel number should come with a bigger piece of sensor. Otherwise, noise will start to influence the picture. If DSLR 8MP would be nice. Mobile phone with camera? Nah.... they should just focus on making the module as small as possible and the MP count should accommodate that module to to maximize the quality, that would be fair enough.
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that's so true. Another thing to note is that do we even need that much pixels? I mean, even with my DSC-T200 (8MPix), i find it excessively large and it takes up my hard drive space pretty fast. I'm pretty happy with 5mpix.
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post Dec 20 2008, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(nubnub75 @ Dec 20 2008, 12:34 AM)
that's so true. Another thing to note is that do we even need that much pixels? I mean, even with my DSC-T200 (8MPix), i find it excessively large and it takes up my hard drive space pretty fast. I'm pretty happy with 5mpix.
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so Nokia can conquer the phone market tongue.gif
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post Dec 20 2008, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(nubnub75 @ Dec 20 2008, 12:34 AM)
that's so true. Another thing to note is that do we even need that much pixels? I mean, even with my DSC-T200 (8MPix), i find it excessively large and it takes up my hard drive space pretty fast. I'm pretty happy with 5mpix.
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And high megapixel doesn't mean good quality picture, quality determined by lots of things, flash, lens and even the processor used to process the picture.
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post Dec 20 2008, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 20 2008, 12:21 AM)
A bigger megapixel number should come with a bigger piece of sensor. Otherwise, noise will start to influence the picture. If DSLR 8MP would be nice. Mobile phone with camera? Nah.... they should just focus on making the module as small as possible and the MP count should accommodate that module to to maximize the quality, that would be fair enough.
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DSLR is great because of lens, sensor, mechanism, dedicated photo process chips with mature image processing code. you try stuck a big big sensor in a phone, but with cheap lens and paria processing, see if they look nice.

QUOTE(nubnub75 @ Dec 20 2008, 12:34 AM)
that's so true. Another thing to note is that do we even need that much pixels? I mean, even with my DSC-T200 (8MPix), i find it excessively large and it takes up my hard drive space pretty fast. I'm pretty happy with 5mpix.
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because phone cannot take as much details as digicam. so higher pixel count can give more details although 8mp phone is probably equal to a good 5mp digicam.
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post Dec 20 2008, 05:03 AM

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camera is no issue to me le.... i'm resigned to buying N97 di. Even if they remove the cam i would still get it. My E71 cam is crappy enough, but honestly, I only snap it like 3 times to test whether it works when buying time. Other than that, never even use it.
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post Dec 20 2008, 11:14 AM

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HAHAHA.. when you said resigned to buy. I thought you gave up buying already. Anyway, I do secretly wish for something that would able to snap indoor photo properly. Forget about the megapixel count, a proper flash might be something more hopeful in this high end gadget. I find that many times when I wished to take out my phone to snap some pictures, I gave up the intention after remembering the crappiness of it's indoor quality.

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post Dec 20 2008, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 20 2008, 11:14 AM)
HAHAHA.. when you said resigned to buy. I thought you gave up buying already. Anyway, I do secretly wish for something that would able to snap indoor photo properly. Forget about the megapixel count, a proper flash might be something more hopeful in this high end gadget. I find that many times when I wished to take out my phone to snap some pictures, I gave up the intention after remembering the crappiness of it's indoor quality.
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lol if only it had n82 camera with xenon flash tongue.gif
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post Dec 20 2008, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(booooster @ Dec 20 2008, 11:19 AM)
lol if only it had n82 camera with xenon flash  tongue.gif
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If only it can attach speed light tongue.gif
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post Dec 21 2008, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(jameslee_84 @ Dec 20 2008, 05:03 AM)
camera is no issue to me le.... i'm resigned to buying N97 di. Even if they remove the cam i would still get it. My E71 cam is crappy enough, but honestly, I only snap it like 3 times to test whether it works when buying time. Other than that, never even use it.
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heheh, text me when you're looking for new owner for your phone. tongue.gif
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post Dec 21 2008, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(mrhenree @ Dec 21 2008, 02:14 PM)
heheh, text me when you're looking for new owner for your phone.  tongue.gif
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u mean my E71?
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post Dec 21 2008, 09:19 PM

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haih... so long the wait. might as well buy the Tube huh? brows.gif

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