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post Nov 26 2008, 04:30 PM

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any news for TM ??
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post Nov 26 2008, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 26 2008, 04:29 PM)
Unfortunately no. No drastic drop. Ramunia is scary. tongue.gif
How about you? You guys makes me wanna sell KNM.
Its unchanged now. Seems like either it gonna shot up
or go down soon.
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KNM would be just another TM ( not the price ) , if you could hold for a month biggrin.gif



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post Nov 26 2008, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 26 2008, 04:31 PM)
KNM would be just another TM ( not the price ) , if you could hold for a month biggrin.gif
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LOL. I hope so too. I believe TM will have correction soon. No stock can go up
and stay up for so long during recession.


Added on November 26, 2008, 4:34 pmBut its just prediction. No one can predict stock market. Kekeke.

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 26 2008, 04:29 PM)
Unfortunately no. No drastic drop. Ramunia is scary. tongue.gif
How about you? You guys makes me wanna sell KNM.
Its unchanged now. Seems like either it gonna shot up
or go down soon.
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today just get in KNM haha .. i didn't stock in much just a bit to gamble on it haha
yup act waiting to c whether its going up or down .. roller coaster will be
since im not betting huge amount so i think i will just stick with this share first to see how later if there is really a bad news out only decide

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post Nov 26 2008, 05:02 PM

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i am waitng to bet with ramunia, will this going to be another KNM?
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QUOTE(tkwfriend @ Nov 26 2008, 05:02 PM)
i am waitng to bet with ramunia, will this going to be another KNM?
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This one might be worse than KNM tongue.gif
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So, gogo2, did you manage to sell TM for RM 3? tongue.gif
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FKLI shot up to 869 drool.gif rclxms.gif flex.gif rclxub.gif

Wonder what is in store tomorrow which we dont know blink.gif

Looks like they betting on plantation stocks to shoot up tomorrow. FCPO price is still climbing now.

Tomorrow confirm plantation ctrs gonna rally rclxms.gif FCPO up RM60 now Buy these ctrs early, hahaha.

Gomen propping up palm oil prices so that small holders dont go bankrupt (report on Malaysiakini).

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I don't know anybody notice on FKLI or not, it is trading at premium which futures people are short term bullish on the market?
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 26 2008, 04:33 PM)
LOL.  I hope so too. I believe TM will have correction soon. No stock can go up
and stay up for so long during recession.


Added on November 26, 2008, 4:34 pmBut its just prediction. No one can predict stock market. Kekeke.
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Hmm.. rclxub.gif I sell mine and my thinking same like yours....
Will go down definetly....
Then buy again at lower price... thumbup.gif


Added on November 26, 2008, 5:25 pm
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 26 2008, 04:31 PM)
KNM would be just another TM ( not the price ) , if you could hold for a month biggrin.gif
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hmm.gif thinking of buying more .....

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So, anybody got any inside news on Ramunia?

Can anybody explain the meaning of "due diligence findings had been unsatisfactory"? hmm.gif

Here's another news, see the bolded words:

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RAMUNIA Holdings Bhd had a record fall in Kuala Lumpur trading after MISC Bhd, owner of the world’s biggest fleet of liquefied-natural-gas ships, dropped a planned RM3.2 billion (US$884 million) bid for the company.

The shares of the oil-rig builder, which resumed trading today after a halt yesterday for the announcement, tumbled 53 per cent to 61 sen at 4.15pm on the Malaysian stock exchange. MISC rose 5 sen, or 0.6 per cent, to RM8.30.

Kuala Lumpur-based MISC yesterday scrapped the proposed takeover, citing “unsatisfactory” findings of an evaluation of the bid. MISC’s decision came as BHP Billiton Ltd, the world’s largest mining company, terminated its US$66 billion offer for Rio Tinto Group, as the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression stalled credit markets and cut demand for products and services.

The move is “more negative to Ramunia,” Simone Yeoh, an analyst at JPMorgan Securities, wrote in a report today. Ramunia “would have been a much more direct beneficiary from the proposed merger,” Yeoh said.
The global financial crisis “would have diluted any benefits from” the merger for MISC, said Yeoh, who has an “underweight” call on MISC stock.

The takeover of Ramunia would have more than doubled MISC’s construction capacity at shipyards in Johor. MISC, which first announced the plan in January, decided to terminate the proposed bid “due to unsatisfactory due diligence findings,” according to a filing to the Malaysian stock exchange yesterday. No other details were given in the statement.

MISC’s decision also came after Ramunia unexpectedly reported a loss in its fiscal third quarter ended July 31 because of higher costs and foreign exchange losses, Yeoh said. The loss, reported in September, “was already a red flag earlier that the deal was at risk.” - Bloomberg


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hey guys i have question abt divd. Investor A purchase stock A at 1/1/2008 and wait for coming divd. Ex-date is 1/6/2008. Investor B bought the stock at 29/5/08. Is the divd payment goes the same to investor A and B? or investor A are entitled to more divd bcoz of longer duration? thanks.
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Maybe can read here...
http://inveztrade.blogspot.com/

QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 26 2008, 05:46 PM)
So, anybody got any inside news on Ramunia?

Can anybody explain the meaning of "due diligence findings had been unsatisfactory"?  hmm.gif

Here's another news, see the bolded words:
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Added on November 26, 2008, 7:24 pmDividen is same for both investors if both have same number unit of shares.

Eg. 5 sen dividen per share
A - 1000 unit - RM 50
B - 1000 unit - RM 50

It doesnt see how much the price of the share, if you have more shares, you'll get more.


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QUOTE(Vv.SoViEt.vV @ Nov 26 2008, 07:14 PM)
hey guys i have question abt divd. Investor A purchase stock A at 1/1/2008 and wait for coming divd. Ex-date is 1/6/2008. Investor B bought the stock at 29/5/08. Is the divd payment goes the same to investor A and B? or investor A are entitled to more divd bcoz of longer duration? thanks.
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Added on November 26, 2008, 7:59 pmSome blogger findings on KNM ..
http://whereiszemoola.blogspot.com/2008/11...3-earnings.html

Hm.. hmm.gif

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 26 2008, 04:33 PM)
LOL.  I hope so too. I believe TM will have correction soon. No stock can go up
and stay up for so long during recession.


Added on November 26, 2008, 4:34 pmBut its just prediction. No one can predict stock market. Kekeke.
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QUOTE(viper88 @ Nov 26 2008, 07:20 PM)
Maybe can read here...
http://inveztrade.blogspot.com/

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Thx for the link. However, it doesn't say much about Ramunia that isn't already in the news.....

What I'm thinking is, since Ramunia is dropping like a rock, it is bound to reach the bottom soon..... if the company is fundamentally strong, then I don't see why it would not rebound after a while. Maybe even a short rally after bottoming......

Grab shares at the bottom, cash out when rally.... cool2.gif

Edit : Of course, if crash to the bottom and stay at the bottom, then die.... laugh.gif

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post Nov 26 2008, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Nov 26 2008, 05:17 PM)
So, gogo2, did you manage to sell TM for RM 3? tongue.gif
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no bro. Still holding. tongue.gif


Added on November 26, 2008, 8:30 pm
QUOTE(viper88 @ Nov 26 2008, 07:20 PM)
that would explain why the stock does not shoot up tongue.gif

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QUOTE(dsugums @ Nov 26 2008, 12:31 PM)
Just because MISC farked up with the S&P, Ramunia got bombed. major share holders are Tabung Haji and EPF. General Malaysian people are getting screwed by MISC with their nonchalant comment about the failure of the S&P.

I bet some bastards will collect the shares at beaten down price and offer it to take it private at peanut price. I bet MISC will make the move  mad.gif

I pity the pakcik and makcik who have invested in Tabung Haji.
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I did not get any info saying EPF is a substantial share holder...but Tabung Haji now owns about 29% of Ramunia...

I remembered TH said it wants to be an O&G player too..thats why they r buying Ramunia .

QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Nov 26 2008, 02:45 PM)
only sellers with no buyers  doh.gif  doh.gif
something fishy by MISC?  hmm.gif
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Their statement is too bold... they want to push the price lower ka? laugh.gif

if so, congratulations.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Vv.SoViEt.vV @ Nov 26 2008, 07:14 PM)
hey guys i have question abt divd. Investor A purchase stock A at 1/1/2008 and wait for coming divd. Ex-date is 1/6/2008. Investor B bought the stock at 29/5/08. Is the divd payment goes the same to investor A and B? or investor A are entitled to more divd bcoz of longer duration? thanks.
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same, as explained by Viper.. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(asambuffett @ Nov 26 2008, 08:38 PM)
Their statement are too bold... they want to push the price lower ka? laugh.gif 

if so, congratulations..  biggrin.gif
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yea.... who knows MISC will launch their 2nd bid when they think the price of Ramunia is fair enough... possible? tongue.gif

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2nite manufacturing order report & jobless claim report (correct me if i'm wrong) smile.gif


Added on November 26, 2008, 9:58 pmConsumer spending falls by 1 percent in October, largest drop since terrorist attacks of 2001

WASHINGTON (AP) -- As the financial crisis was gaining force, Americans cut back on their spending in October by the largest amount since the 2001 terrorist attacks.

The Commerce Department reported Wednesday that consumer spending plunged by 1 percent last month, even worse than the 0.9 percent decline that had been expected. Personal incomes were up 0.3 percent last month, slightly better than the 0.1 percent gain analysts had expected.

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