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 AMD® Socket-AM2&AM2+ Overclocking V12, The Deneb Era...Is coming..Beware..

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dEsTiNyy
post Dec 20 2008, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(MENCHELSEA @ Dec 20 2008, 11:33 AM)
amd phenomx4 -4 cores (of course lo)
      phenomx3  -3 cores

amd dual core 64 -2cores

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OC for phenom and x2  is different a bit.. contact uncle Google for more info.. whistling.gif
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OIC...so should use ddr 3 for amd phenomx3??
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post Dec 20 2008, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(dEsTiNyy @ Dec 20 2008, 11:51 AM)
OIC...so should use  ddr 3  for amd phenomx3??
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phenom is still DDR2 bro...
AM3 js the DDR3 thumbup.gif
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ah haa, bang xo dah start dah.............
3200 with this low Vc, nice bro.. rclxms.gif try more la...
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BTW, that converter part really rclxub.gif how come la this can heppen.. this mayb is something hardware prob?? hmm.gif

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post Dec 20 2008, 12:21 PM

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post Dec 20 2008, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(coolice @ Dec 20 2008, 12:21 PM)
4GHz passed 3dmark06 cpu test blush.gif
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rclxms.gif good then.. thumbup.gif
bro, do try OC with DIce brows.gif icon_idea.gif
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post Dec 20 2008, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Dec 20 2008, 12:10 PM)
BTW, that converter part really  rclxub.gif  how come la this can heppen.. this mayb is something hardware prob?? hmm.gif
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tat the weird thing.. other than that still ok..
still contacting with asia DFI regarding this issue smile.gif
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post Dec 20 2008, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 20 2008, 10:22 AM)
DFI JR 790GX first action~
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Pros:
-Layout of the board quite ok.
-easy to on/off using switch at on board.
-Good bios. Not so complex

Cons:
-Bad user manual from DFI.
-Wrong information they attach on the internet. << lead to confusion, me myself also confuse.
-claim to be 16x at each slot PCIE, but the reality on 8x on each. << single slot, not crossfire.
-Board have issue on bios. << my DVI to VGA converter become a key to boot successfully.

weird ha? whistling.gif  laugh.gif
if i remove it, i won't able to boot.. then it show, no power cable attached to gc  doh.gif
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bro, regardin d pci-e 8x thingy, have u set in bios to force it run @ 16x? mind to run a gpu-z to show d info? smile.gif

gotta agree on dfi manual always sucks... doh.gif
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post Dec 20 2008, 12:52 PM

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post Dec 20 2008, 12:59 PM

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Guys no need worry what cooler they use for their setup(Deneb) as even AMD stock cooler 4.0Ghz 1.5V already 45C on load..you can use teh stock cooler lor.. whistling.gif
Sell your old cooler + proc.. + top up abit..VIola whistling.gif
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 20 2008, 12:52 PM)
the bios only have until 8x that the highest.. but i leave it at auto..
not have other setting that can change it

That why i said, they give wrong information.. on the net and on the manual user..
what a shame sad.gif

here ..the ss
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like that no choice ledi but to wait for new bios. rh got any beta bios that can fix this issue? unsure.gif

there's chance if polygon owns this board... nod.gif
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post Dec 20 2008, 01:01 PM

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polygon? i think he screw up the bios and sent the board for rma.. there is problem to modding the bios as it come with soldered chip.. so in case of failure.. nah.. nothing can't do laugh.gif
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post Dec 20 2008, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 20 2008, 01:01 PM)
polygon? i think he screw up the bios and sent the board for rma.. there is problem to modding the bios as it come with soldered chip.. so in case of failure.. nah.. nothing can't do laugh.gif
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Well blush.gif is bit problem with soldered chip...tapi ada cara hmm.gif . i know how to do. nod.gif .....tapi byk susah and much dangerous then hotflash sweat.gif

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post Dec 20 2008, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(digswell @ Dec 20 2008, 02:15 PM)
Well  blush.gif is  bit problem with soldered chip...tapi ada cara  hmm.gif  . i know how to do. nod.gif .....tapi byk susah and much dangerous then hotflash  sweat.gif
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post Dec 20 2008, 08:39 PM

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hi guys, it seems that i have hit a wall at around 250 ht. my specs are in my signature. i know its not the limitation of the cpu coz i could do 300ht = 2850 with my old ta690g.

just wanna know what other settings im missing out. i have:

- disabled CNQ
- graphics to UMA only, disabled sideport.
- upped voltage to 1.376 which is more enough coz my old ta690g needed around 1.36 to reach 300ht only.
- upped voltage of both nb, ht link and dram +0.1 even though non of them are overclocked. (memory is still below 667, ht link is around 1000, only the nb is up to 1.3)
- also left the ram timings default but changed the CR to 2T for stability.

if u are using this board, can u tell me the best bios version for this mobo? coz if its not the mobo, it could be bcoz i am using integrated graphics (for the time being). but oddly, i could do 300ht with my ta690g with onboard graphics as well.

btw, under my "CPU FID/VID control" i do not have the option set "Custom P-States" to Enabled in the bios version. Would prefer to to flash bios though considering the risks.

hope someone can help coz im really scratching my head coz i cant pinpoint the problem.

p/s: i havent done stress testing yet coz i doubt i could find the solution anyway even if i could pinpoint the problem thru small/large FFT tests.
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post Dec 20 2008, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(awh85 @ Dec 20 2008, 08:39 PM)
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bro, b4 this u oso using this pair of ram?? u using 2g+1g?? if diff u must un-gang it rite??
other may wait ans frm 128M user laugh.gif

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post Dec 20 2008, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Dec 20 2008, 08:51 PM)
bro, b4 this u oso using this pair of ram?? u using 2g+1g?? if diff u must un-gang it rite??
other may wait ans frm 128M user  laugh.gif
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before this i have used 2 sticks of the current ram i am using and also got the same result, but slightly different tweaking with a pair of crucial d9gmh.

now im using 3 sticks of kvr fp-y5 rev. c. but by theory, there should be nothing wrong with the ram right since its under the actual clock speed. the thing is i cant find the unganged option and i also thought the gang/unganged is an option for am2+ CPUs only?
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QUOTE(awh85 @ Dec 20 2008, 08:55 PM)
before this i have used 2 sticks of the current ram i am using and also got the same result, but slightly different tweaking with a pair of crucial d9gmh.

now im using 3 sticks of kvr fp-y5 rev. c. but by theory, there should be nothing wrong with the ram right since its under the actual clock speed. the thing is i cant find the unganged option and i also thought the gang/unganged is an option for am2+ CPUs only?
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correct, unganged/ganged mode is for phenoms & above only... smile.gif
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post Dec 20 2008, 09:27 PM

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why u use UMA?
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post Dec 20 2008, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 20 2008, 09:27 PM)
why u use UMA?
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from what i know, UMA is the system memory (the ram) while sideport is the independent chipset ram for the HD3300. i disabled it bcoz the guy at rebel havens disabled it too. but i doubt that is the problem.
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from my past experience.. UMA give burden to overclocking..
i will not use it when overclocking.. prefering to use sideport only.. then u can fully utilize ur ram.. maybe u should try it..
dont waste ur 128M sideport

the guy that disabled the sideport use onboard graphic or another gc?

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post Dec 20 2008, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 20 2008, 10:00 PM)
from my past experience.. UMA give burden to overclocking..
i will not use it when overclocking.. prefering to use sideport only.. then u can fully utilize ur ram.. maybe u should try it..
dont waste ur 128M sideport

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ok, maybe i will try it later. (not today though).

but generally, sideport + uma gives the best performance followed by UMA and then only sideport since its only 128mb. but if it does solve my problem i dont mind changing. in the mean time, if anyone can help me pinpoint my problem then i really notworthy.gif

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the guy that disabled the sideport use onboard graphic or another gc?


Not sure sweat.gif

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