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work_tgr
post Nov 1 2008, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(pwincess @ Nov 1 2008, 12:30 PM)
why 1000x50?
not 600x50?  unsure.gif


Added on November 1, 2008, 12:30 pmthe answer is as u stated just now.
25E 21D
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600x50 is refer to total work done
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25 E..? me correct?
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post Nov 1 2008, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Nov 1 2008, 12:27 PM)
any metal located below H cant react with acid?
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yes, for example
Mg + H2SO4 -> MgSO4 + H2
Mg located higher than H, then it can grab or "rampas" the SO4 2- from H

while for Cu
Cu + H2SO4 -> no reaction
Cu is lower than H in ECS, it cant grab or "rampas" the SO4 2- from H.

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oh. ic. if it wants total work done then 600x50.
if work done against friction is 1000x50.
i understand now. thx
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haha..i also think that 25 D le..hehe


Added on November 1, 2008, 12:37 pm1600 x 50 is the total work done rite?? then work done to overcome friction is just take the frictional force x displacement

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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Nov 1 2008, 12:35 PM)
1600 x 50 is the total work done rite??

It depends on how question defines "total work done". Ya, 1600x50 is better.
600x50 is the work done to rise the wood log.
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phy ques..
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Tension = pvg-mg=(1.25)(1200)(10)-(800)(10)=15000-8000=7000N
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Hi guys I got a Q I wanna ask, hope u can help

Which of the following pairs of substances is most suitable to prepare copper(II) sulphate
salt?

A. Copper with dilute sulphuric acid
B. Copper(II) chloride with dilute sulphuric acid
C. Copper(II) carbonate with dilute sulphuric acid
D. Copper(II) nitrate solution with sodium sulphate solution

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i remember success book mentioned all nitrate salts are soluble .

sodium salts are soluble also .

so i will choose D
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QUOTE(DXK @ Nov 1 2008, 02:45 PM)
Hi guys I got a Q I wanna ask, hope u can help

Which of the following pairs of substances is most suitable to prepare copper(II) sulphate
salt?

A. Copper with dilute sulphuric acid
B. Copper(II) chloride with dilute sulphuric acid
C. Copper(II) carbonate with dilute sulphuric acid
D. Copper(II) nitrate solution with sodium sulphate solution
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CuSO4 is soluble salt. D is definitely not possible.. this is no double decompostition reaction.
A is not possible because Hydrogen is more reactive than copper metal.
I would choose C.

to get CuSO4 there are 3 ways. copper oxide with sulphuric acid, copper hydroxide with sulphuric acid or copper carbonate with sulphuric acid.
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QUOTE(neorelated4 @ Nov 1 2008, 03:53 PM)
CuSO4 is soluble salt. D is definitely not possible.. this is no double decompostition reaction.
A is not possible because Hydrogen is more reactive than copper metal.
I would choose C.

to get CuSO4 there are 3 ways. copper oxide with sulphuric acid, copper hydroxide with sulphuric acid or copper carbonate with sulphuric acid.
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Yup you are right, answer given is C
just wanna try asking here cuz cant find explanation in my books. Thx

btw, CluelessNick, its your Bday right? Congratz rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(neorelated4 @ Nov 1 2008, 03:53 PM)
CuSO4 is soluble salt. D is definitely not possible.. this is no double decompostition reaction.
A is not possible because Hydrogen is more reactive than copper metal.
I would choose C.

to get CuSO4 there are 3 ways. copper oxide with sulphuric acid, copper hydroxide with sulphuric acid or copper carbonate with sulphuric acid.
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how u know D is double decomposition reaction?
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it's not. if it were then a precipitate would form. double decomposition reaction only occurs when 2 soluble salt solutions are mixed together and an insoluble salt is formed. since cuso42 is soluble, hence no precipitate will form.
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Double decomposition will produce insouble salt.

From D, Cu(NO3)2 + Na2SO4 --> CuSO4 + 2NaNO3
[This reaction is not double decompostion]

There is no insoluble salt produced, and we cannot separate the two solution. Thus D is wrong.
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oh..double decompostion reaction is two soluble salt mixed toghether
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Nov 1 2008, 06:50 PM)
oh..double decompostion reaction is two soluble salt mixed toghether
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post Nov 1 2008, 07:05 PM

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no 15 pls !
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post Nov 1 2008, 07:13 PM


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one add math ques.. solve the equation 2 + 2log 4 (p-6) = log 2 p

p/s the 4 and 2 are the base
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There is 4 way to prepare soluble salt...
But 1 of them is only for SAP salt..Other 3 ways is for other soluble salt..


Added on November 1, 2008, 7:21 pm
QUOTE(pwincess @ Nov 1 2008, 07:05 PM)
no 15 pls !
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Answer is B...
At the dotted line there pressure is equal...Meaning that use formula hpg+atm

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