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SPM Thread 08/09 (V 3), SPM is coming soon..!!!! Final days..!!
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work_tgr
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Nov 1 2008, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(pwincess @ Nov 1 2008, 12:30 PM) why 1000x50? not 600x50?  Added on November 1, 2008, 12:30 pmthe answer is as u stated just now. 25E 21D 600x50 is refer to total work done
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TSvick5821
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Nov 1 2008, 12:33 PM
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25 E..? me correct?
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nicoleycc
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Nov 1 2008, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Nov 1 2008, 12:27 PM) any metal located below H cant react with acid? yes, for example Mg + H 2SO 4 -> MgSO 4 + H 2Mg located higher than H, then it can grab or "rampas" the SO 4 2- from H while for Cu Cu + H 2SO 4 -> no reaction Cu is lower than H in ECS, it cant grab or "rampas" the SO 4 2- from H. This post has been edited by nicoleycc: Nov 1 2008, 01:43 PM
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pwincess
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Nov 1 2008, 12:34 PM
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oh. ic. if it wants total work done then 600x50. if work done against friction is 1000x50. i understand now. thx
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TSvick5821
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Nov 1 2008, 12:35 PM
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haha..i also think that 25 D le..hehe
Added on November 1, 2008, 12:37 pm1600 x 50 is the total work done rite?? then work done to overcome friction is just take the frictional force x displacement
This post has been edited by vick5821: Nov 1 2008, 12:37 PM
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work_tgr
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Nov 1 2008, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Nov 1 2008, 12:35 PM) 1600 x 50 is the total work done rite?? It depends on how question defines "total work done". Ya, 1600x50 is better. 600x50 is the work done to rise the wood log.
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work_tgr
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Nov 1 2008, 01:21 PM
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Tension = pvg-mg=(1.25)(1200)(10)-(800)(10)=15000-8000=7000N
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DXK
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Nov 1 2008, 02:45 PM
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Hi guys I got a Q I wanna ask, hope u can help
Which of the following pairs of substances is most suitable to prepare copper(II) sulphate salt?
A. Copper with dilute sulphuric acid B. Copper(II) chloride with dilute sulphuric acid C. Copper(II) carbonate with dilute sulphuric acid D. Copper(II) nitrate solution with sodium sulphate solution
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CluelessNick
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Nov 1 2008, 03:42 PM
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i remember success book mentioned all nitrate salts are soluble .
sodium salts are soluble also .
so i will choose D
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neorelated4
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Nov 1 2008, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(DXK @ Nov 1 2008, 02:45 PM) Hi guys I got a Q I wanna ask, hope u can help Which of the following pairs of substances is most suitable to prepare copper(II) sulphate salt? A. Copper with dilute sulphuric acid B. Copper(II) chloride with dilute sulphuric acid C. Copper(II) carbonate with dilute sulphuric acid D. Copper(II) nitrate solution with sodium sulphate solution CuSO4 is soluble salt. D is definitely not possible.. this is no double decompostition reaction. A is not possible because Hydrogen is more reactive than copper metal. I would choose C. to get CuSO4 there are 3 ways. copper oxide with sulphuric acid, copper hydroxide with sulphuric acid or copper carbonate with sulphuric acid.
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DXK
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Nov 1 2008, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(neorelated4 @ Nov 1 2008, 03:53 PM) CuSO4 is soluble salt. D is definitely not possible.. this is no double decompostition reaction. A is not possible because Hydrogen is more reactive than copper metal. I would choose C. to get CuSO4 there are 3 ways. copper oxide with sulphuric acid, copper hydroxide with sulphuric acid or copper carbonate with sulphuric acid. Yup you are right, answer given is C just wanna try asking here cuz cant find explanation in my books. Thx btw, CluelessNick, its your Bday right? Congratz
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TSvick5821
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Nov 1 2008, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(neorelated4 @ Nov 1 2008, 03:53 PM) CuSO4 is soluble salt. D is definitely not possible.. this is no double decompostition reaction. A is not possible because Hydrogen is more reactive than copper metal. I would choose C. to get CuSO4 there are 3 ways. copper oxide with sulphuric acid, copper hydroxide with sulphuric acid or copper carbonate with sulphuric acid. how u know D is double decomposition reaction?
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neorelated4
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Nov 1 2008, 06:38 PM
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it's not. if it were then a precipitate would form. double decomposition reaction only occurs when 2 soluble salt solutions are mixed together and an insoluble salt is formed. since cuso42 is soluble, hence no precipitate will form.
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tonnect91
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Nov 1 2008, 06:39 PM
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Double decomposition will produce insouble salt.
From D, Cu(NO3)2 + Na2SO4 --> CuSO4 + 2NaNO3 [This reaction is not double decompostion]
There is no insoluble salt produced, and we cannot separate the two solution. Thus D is wrong.
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TSvick5821
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Nov 1 2008, 06:50 PM
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oh..double decompostion reaction is two soluble salt mixed toghether
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work_tgr
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Nov 1 2008, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Nov 1 2008, 06:50 PM) oh..double decompostion reaction is two soluble salt mixed toghether yes. right
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TSvick5821
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Nov 1 2008, 07:13 PM
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one add math ques.. solve the equation 2 + 2log 4 (p-6) = log 2 p
p/s the 4 and 2 are the base
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gzavincent
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Nov 1 2008, 07:18 PM
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There is 4 way to prepare soluble salt... But 1 of them is only for SAP salt..Other 3 ways is for other soluble salt.. Added on November 1, 2008, 7:21 pmQUOTE(pwincess @ Nov 1 2008, 07:05 PM) no 15 pls !  Answer is B... At the dotted line there pressure is equal...Meaning that use formula hpg+atm This post has been edited by gzavincent: Nov 1 2008, 07:21 PM
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