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QUOTE(Disciple @ Nov 30 2008, 01:34 PM)
Nice, the tempo of 201 means this

                  # Example: 2/0/1
                      # Eccentric / Stretched / Concentric

so taking the bench press for example, it means you lower the bar in 2 seconds, no pause, then push up in 1 sec.

another example would be if you're doing dumbell rows, you lower the DB in 2 seconds and pulling it up in 1sec.

another example would be when you are doing pull ups, the eccentric movement will be when you lower yourself down (extending the arms) while the concentric movement is when you pull yourself up.

to keep it simple i always think of it this way, concentric is when we are putting effort while eccentric is the phase which is easier (or in other words you relax abit).
tempo yeah speed...
what pics we talking about here brows.gif togtfo brows.gif
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Aiseh. no interested with u t. Show some sexy back. week by week. See if there's different.
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post Nov 30 2008, 04:41 PM

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nah, i think tits are better...i post some tits every week...you also contribute abit larr..


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post Nov 30 2008, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(Disciple @ Nov 30 2008, 01:34 PM)
Nice, the tempo of 201 means this

                  # Example: 2/0/1
                      # Eccentric / Stretched / Concentric

so taking the bench press for example, it means you lower the bar in 2 seconds, no pause, then push up in 1 sec.

another example would be if you're doing dumbell rows, you lower the DB in 2 seconds and pulling it up in 1sec.

another example would be when you are doing pull ups, the eccentric movement will be when you lower yourself down (extending the arms) while the concentric movement is when you pull yourself up.

to keep it simple i always think of it this way, concentric is when we are putting effort while eccentric is the phase which is easier (or in other words you relax abit).
tempo yeah speed...
what pics we talking about here brows.gif togtfo brows.gif
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Ok, get it. I'll start this training monday. I like the superset in this tranning as it will help me sweat like hell.

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I like this more even there is no tits, this explained well why all my ex is aeroplane.
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post Nov 30 2008, 10:18 PM

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lol...good luck dude...yeah, supersets takes my breath away....


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Yo dis, ur waist sized 32?
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post Dec 1 2008, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(Disciple @ Nov 28 2008, 05:26 PM)
anyways, here are the tits i promised

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Harumi Nemoto FTW notworthy.gif
but her waist quite huge... sweat.gif


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post Dec 1 2008, 01:28 PM

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Hey man,

Do you do only 5X5 for abs? I feel nothing even with weight. I think I need at least 15 reps for abs exercise to feel something.
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post Dec 1 2008, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(bata @ Dec 1 2008, 01:01 AM)
Harumi Nemoto FTW  notworthy.gif
but her waist quite huge... sweat.gif
Chow
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wow..thanks for the name lol...i didnt know her name
QUOTE(ExpZero @ Dec 1 2008, 01:28 PM)
Hey man,

Do you do only 5X5 for abs? I feel nothing even with weight. I think I need at least 15 reps for abs exercise to feel something.
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hmm..i skipped abs for a few weeks already...but from what i planned, i was supposed to do 5 reps of weighted crunches on the abs machine...in my gym there are those ab machines where they have a weight stack just beside you...yup, with those i think you'll feel the "umph" on the abs even though its only 5 reps....

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post Dec 1 2008, 11:54 PM

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nonono, I think I'll modified the abs to 15x5. 5X5 if 10kg plate, cannot wake up, if 5kg, no feel. So, I'll take 5kg with 15reps
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post Dec 1 2008, 11:57 PM

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you doing the sit ups on a decline bench right? wow, holding the weight plates is hard enough not to mention getting up and repeating it for 15 reps haha...
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post Dec 2 2008, 12:33 AM

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Yes, decline, it isn't hard I guess, maybe I got stronger abs cause when I was young, I wanted 6 packs very hard.
I sit up everyday...yes everyday for about 50 times....after about half a year...I able to get the dumbell behind my neck for sit up.

The hardest sit up is you drop your body down until you touch the floor, then you wake up again without curl your back.

Tried OVT today, don't have enrgy, able to do bench press at 60kg(left+right+bar) first few set then reduce to 50kg...
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post Dec 2 2008, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(ExpZero @ Dec 2 2008, 12:33 AM)
Yes, decline, it isn't hard I guess, maybe I got stronger abs cause when I was young, I wanted 6 packs very hard.
I sit up everyday...yes everyday for about 50 times....after about half a year...I able to get the dumbell behind my neck for sit up.

The hardest sit up is you drop your body down until you touch the floor, then you wake up again without curl your back.

Tried OVT today, don't have enrgy, able to do bench press at 60kg(left+right+bar) first few set then reduce to 50kg...
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yeah...me too...i cant bench my max with this...its always that i have to adjust + - the weights to suit my energy level for the next set lol...and man you'll feel your chest and arms numb...

i remembered i was fatigue for almost a week when i first started OVT. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 2 2008, 10:21 AM

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Damn, it's sad cuz I was able to bench 70kg, but my maximum is 60kg after take a break for about 3 months.

My hand is still very sore now even I drank 3 shakes(post breakfast, postworkout, prebed) by hoping it will be fasten up my arm recovery yesterday.

I tend to forget the 201 and 602 tempo when workout, maybe I'm not use to it.

hey dude, why don't you list out your diet?
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post Dec 2 2008, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(ExpZero @ Dec 2 2008, 10:21 AM)
Damn, it's sad cuz I was able to bench 70kg, but my maximum is 60kg after take a break for about 3 months.

My hand is still very sore now even I drank 3 shakes(post breakfast, postworkout, prebed)  by hoping it will be fasten up my arm recovery yesterday.

I tend to forget the 201 and 602 tempo when workout, maybe I'm not use to it.

hey dude, why don't you list out your diet?
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haha...me too, my bench was far more before i started this program...but what's most important is the form...my chest was sore for about a week when i first started...the weeks after that it gets better, dont worry...

as for the tempo, i guess you're not use to it yet...give it a few more tries and i believe you'll get use to it...the tempo part, 602, is actually quite taxing lol, you gotta feel the pump all the way...sometimes the fatigue is just too much that i cant follow the tempos lol...

oh, as for my meals, its full of pork and fried stuff...i think i'll post it up later tonight or tomorrow...
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post Dec 2 2008, 03:57 PM

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Its week 5 already, its time to change it up a little.
Tuesday, 2/12/08.

Chest and back. 120 seconds rest between supersets.

A1. Low-Incline dumbell press [Tempo 201]

35lbs x 5 reps
40lbs x 5 reps
45lbs x 5 reps
45lbs x 5 reps
45lbs x 5 reps

A2. Low-Incline dumbell flies [Tempo 602]

20lbs x 5 reps
20lbs x 5 reps
20lbs x 5 reps
25lbs x 5 reps
25lbs x 5 reps

B1. Weighted Dips [Tempo 201]

BW x 5 reps
BW+10lbs x 5 reps
BW+10lbs x 5 reps
BW+10lbs x 5 reps
BW+10lbs x 5 reps

B2. Flat dumbell flies [Tempo 602]

25lbs x 5 reps
25lbs x 5 reps
25lbs x 5 reps
25lbs x 5 reps
25lbs x 5 reps

C1. Pullovers [Tempo 201]

30lbs x 5 reps
35lbs x 5 reps
35lbs x 5 reps
35lbs x 5 reps
35lbs x 5 reps

C2. One arm dumbell row [Tempo 602]

45lbs x 5 reps
45lbs x 5 reps
45lbs x 5 reps
45lbs x 5 reps
45lbs x 5 reps

D1. T-bar rows [Tempo 201]

70lbs x 5 reps
70lbs x 5 reps
70lbs x 5 reps
70lbs x 5 reps
70lbs x 5 reps

D2. Seated cable row (Medium grip) [Tempo 602]

125lbs x 5 reps
125lbs x 5 reps
125lbs x 5 reps
125lbs x 5 reps
125lbs x 5 reps

Went cycling after that. Man, I'm tired. Kthxbai.
Tits later. And a diet log too.
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post Dec 2 2008, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Disciple @ Dec 2 2008, 03:44 PM)
haha...me too, my bench was far more before i started this program...but what's most important is the form...my chest was sore for about a week when i first started...the weeks after that it gets better, dont worry...

as for the tempo, i guess you're not use to it yet...give it a few more tries and i believe you'll get use to it...the tempo part, 602, is actually quite taxing lol, you gotta feel the pump all the way...sometimes the fatigue is just too much that i cant follow the tempos lol...

oh, as for my meals, its full of pork and fried stuff...i think i'll post it up later tonight or tomorrow...
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Yea, always forget to follow the tempo, I have to remind myself everytime I take the barbell, dumbbell for the tempo. The 602 is really...really... shocking.gif

Hm...today i squat for 100kg, some of the big guy at my gym place look at me (well, I'm not that big, I'm 80kg, they are like 100kg) because they squat for 105kg and I able to squat for 100kg. I feel that they are talking some nonsense behind of me, because I accidentally heard they said "Some people lift for so heavy also grow so slow". I was like F*** you, non of your business, I don't want too be 100kg like you, I just want to maintain 80kg and convert all to muscle.

PS: Post moooarrrr leng lui!!
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post Dec 2 2008, 06:07 PM

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wow...100kg? thats like double my max lol..i have weak legs...
who cares what they said...you gotta get used to it...i get alot of this shit always...people trying to look down or bring you down...but you always gotta stay strong...

read my siggy lol..

tits later
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QUOTE(Disciple @ Dec 2 2008, 06:07 PM)
wow...100kg? thats like double my max lol..i have weak legs...
who cares what they said...you gotta get used to it...i get alot of this shit always...people trying to look down or bring you down...but you always gotta stay strong...

read my siggy lol..

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lol, haha, damn, the whole body of mine is so sore. I'm taking 3 shake+xtend nowadays with this OVT. But my body still very pain+sore.

What's the time you used to complete all the workout? I finish it within 45 minutes, and do some extra isolated exercise until reach 1 hour while consuming my postworkout shake.
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LOL, I learn this from kopitiam sweat.gif
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lol..kopitiam is the place to stay man...
i think you should rest moar...you'll get used to the soreness haha...

hey whats xtend by the way? i've heard this in some thread in garage sales....its BCAA? or creatine lol

aiya...tits later haha...
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QUOTE(Disciple @ Dec 2 2008, 09:23 PM)
lol..kopitiam is the place to stay man...
i think you should rest moar...you'll get used to the soreness haha...

hey whats xtend by the way? i've heard this in some thread in garage sales....its BCAA? or creatine lol

aiya...tits later haha...
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It's BCAA, for pre and during, the taste is awesome, really good, abit sour, I like it very much. Just that even though many people have been commenting about Xtend is very good for muscle recovery and energy and growth, but I don't feel much.

I read at bodybuilding.com's forum, some of them is taking it even when rest. I meant shake between meal and they take 8 scoops per day.
WTF, super rich man, the whole 1kg only got 30 servings, and they take 8 servings perday, 4 days finish, I can't afford , sometimes I also not taking full 1 scoop cuz too scare to see it empty...lol

Hmm...1 question, do you take dextrose for postworkout? I meant the normal Glucolin "tenaga segera setiap hari"? I'm scare take too much dextrose will lead to fat storage

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