same as me lol...bcos of this lag i cant use ambush multilate spec ~ somemore now shadownstep nerf..cant blink out of root n frost d~

why cant, just kill the guy in 2 hit lag also nvm.

har..when i ambush the ppl 1 time..he edi run few step away lol~ so only can cheap shot 1st hehe~

This post has been edited by outsiders_86: Nov 5 2008, 05:18 PM

yea....that the prob....
supposingly rogue dmg is base on all the combo hit, but with tmnut line...lol...can do 2 perfect stunlock adi dem happy liao..

This post has been edited by HellJoker: Nov 5 2008, 05:20 PM

wound poison is 50% proc rate, with DB it procs 100% cripple once wound procs.

dual wound with ambush + 2-3 dagger white attacks, ur almost guaranteed the cripple.

so 50 out of 100 ambushes, ur target is slowed for the killing. not that bad of a deal really

i have a rogue and normally play with a 350 - 400ms.. thank god the mutilate have been changed and does not require to be behind your target. i find playing mutilate the better of the other talent for us malaysians..

we can never get a nice timing to get behind our target for an ambush. everytime i sneak up to ambush i get im not in the correct position, and backstabbing when im directly behind them says out of range. u need to be ahead of your target to backstab them. with mutilate spec its ez to just cheapshot, mutilate (if crits u already get full 5 combo pts), from there either u go evis > dismantle or kidney and mutilate again.. we cannot really do much burst that way but at least we're locking them and doing dmg compared to do 1 ambush and they manage to run and kite u back to death.

playing a range class is still easier for our ping.. there's a saying in my server that asian melee players that are high in arena rating are prob the best players because they dont have to deal with just fighting hard teams, but they also got to fight against lag and always be couple of steps ahead. lol

msian ping with hunter most easy i think..haha~beastmaster pet lolz

should've gone lolstep then. hemo spamming > mutilating. mutilating from non back position = shit dmg, thanks to MANY multipliers stacked on the 20% oppo multiplier.

and my ambush is 10yd. its much easier than you think. as my combat = ambush > mutilate > evis > CLOS+sprint+vanish for the great escape. if no cooldowns then fight like a spartan hero bring few more allis down lulz.

my ambush is around 2-4k crit on warriors in plate too btw LOL
just pala/sham with shield ill open with CS then 5pt EA + dismantle to cut them down to leather/mail armor status.

warlocks, if they got over 15k hp ill open with cs, better bring them down as much hp as i can during stun before they meta. if they dont have meta/sub 14k hp, ambush ftw.

erm...300+ms skating?? omg did you ever pvp with 1.5k ms?? i want to cry if i got 300+ ms lol, i play a mages and a paladin healer and hunter so think the first 2 class i had how to heal and how to shoot lol

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This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Nov 5 2008, 08:46 PM

lol rogue complaining about lag....

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

another LOA kid that never own a cap lvl rogue or even worse never play WOW before comment bout rogue...

Helljoker,

think of it from a warrior perspective....lol

rogues...think of all the abilities u have in pvp, COS, Vanish, Sprint...if fight is not in ur favor...they complain about lag???? haha

with a lag of 300ms (if u get it) ...u practically wtfpwn ppl man. quaza said he can takes down a priest in like what 5 hits? (from another thread some time back)

if you are lucky u get to sap first then go bio and come back, open a can of soda then start working on your combo....(make sure he dont trinket out just in case u dont know)

whats is so hard in capping to to 70? moreover rogue???

Btw not flaming rouges but just finding it funny thats all. Granted we are at disadvantage here.

- Just a nub ranting coz i got pwn by a level 10 rogue in elywnn forest

1) cooldowns
2) warriors can own me as easily with overpower revenge SPAMS and lolsudden death. i couldnt count how many times i have 8k+ hp, warrior with 2k+, im basically owning him, and he sudden death me execute crit 7-8k and i died instead. FANTASTIC.
3) sapping people and go bio? you know how long sap last? hello?
4) go look up arena statistics, compared warrior and rogues. if ur doing bad as a warrior, you have no excuse.
http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/team/5/all/all/all/all/ <-- 5v5 (combine warrior comps)
http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/team/3/all/all/all/all/ <-- rogue only wins this due to RMP and prolly cuz of china armory being counter, and 3.0
http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/team/2/all/all/all/all/ <-- 2v2 oh lol warrior druid

i have it fairly ez cuz:
1) i am maxed out on gear minus s4 shoulder/weapons (haha f*** that 30 rating drop when im at 204x on 3v3 )
2) im mainly playing BG nowdays and BG = newbie pvp

what Quazacolt said is what i mean,
Niway I'm complaining bout tmnut line making rogue sux in arena, and thats the fact, y the hell i should think from a warrior persepctive??...is there anything to do wit me???,

L2P your warrior and dont ever comment on other class before u already know thier actual ability cause that'll make u look like a fool...

This post has been edited by HellJoker: Nov 6 2008, 08:34 AM

Right on the money! I am not sure about the rest of you who use TMNut Screamyx, but for me, 80% of the time i am having a line with an average of about 20% packet loss. These lost packet is even happening within TMSuck network itself, which should not be happening in the first place.

This post has been edited by Madgeiser: Nov 6 2008, 08:40 AM

then u should check wif ur line, splitter, the telephone panel, and lastly call up if din solve... tis mean sumthing when wrong wif ur hardware....
normally u wont get packet lost, even if u ping wif 1000ms...

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Added on November 6, 2008, 11:57 amusually i dun believe the ping show in WoW, coz i encounter b4 like once the line spike for 2 sec or mayb longer, mine ping goes up to like 1k ms, but my toon still hit and cast with quartz showing jus 200~300ms.... i can assume the latency thingy react pretty slow so i wont use tat as reference... find a target and do sum dmg will let u know whether u r lag or delay... or mayb casting mount oso can....

This post has been edited by wanderman: Nov 6 2008, 11:57 AM

and what are you gonna do, when the tmnut technicians show, and proven to you, that the copper backbone is degraded/faulty/too far from exchange, and needs upgrade/replacement, but not gonna do it cuz the cost to do it just for ONE you is too much for telekom to bother?

well quaza i am not sure to say u are good / brave or .....

I am not saying is warrior vs rogue but since u started it, just chiping in
Tell me a warrior is not gear dependent? Maybe u got overpowered to death + sudden death proc etc by a S4 warrior which is better geared than u? If you got 2 shotted by a huntard coz u are in greens are you gonna blame lag coz your shadow step went to a shadow 0.3 secs ago?

Seriously how many time a rogue gets to fade away and fight again in a failed gank? reset and come again?
oh ya...to you guys arena is the ultimate bechmark of how good you are in wow. world pvp is for griefters ganking lowbies and PVE is for people that failed in PVP

as for sapping sorry i did not know u take it so seriously....lol scarcism? jeez...where are the rouge's sense of humor...lag???

as for arena statistic i normally read it differently as u coz i feel u look at the class icons only. Notice the druids in there? they are the game breaker dont think is the rogue or warrior in general. Rogue can be drafted into more arena setups as compared to warrior
It is always a dps + DRUID that is a strong combo. U know why a warrior is favored over other dps class in 2v2? as for 3v3 and 5v5 the warriors representation have drop drastically from there on while the rogues are popular. Again there is a reason and as a season l33t arena player like you, you should know.

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Added on November 6, 2008, 12:43 pmAs for Helljoker...No, what quaza said is not what u meant. Stop tailcoating quaza.
Dont tell me u arena....and make me lol at u again. I am trying very hard to refrain from that atm. TMnet making rogue sux in arena??? Maybe streamyx route all the rogues's packets to moon and back on earth? Other classes are affected too if u dont notice. Maybe go into a few arena games then we discuss?

Yeah u dont care about warriors perspective. I found it funny that rogue are complaining about lag thats my thought so is there anything to do with you??? Can I lol at my thought and express it?
Did I post any witty 12 yr old comment like you who thinks that leveling to 70 is a great achievement coz Blizz just gave u an achievement acomplishment? by the way ur ding to 70 acomplishment is just 1 out of thousnads of it....jeez... whats next? I am a nub coz i did not explore kalimdor or fall 65 yrds(?) without dying?
Did I doubt you ever played wow?
Tell me which part of the rogue abilities that I comment is wrong that makes me looks like a fool?? Oh of coz the sap part....but I really doubt u know there is a sap button in ur spell book. Ebay much my friend?

This post has been edited by kuasacow: Nov 6 2008, 12:43 PM