Wow, you can actually value a game based on the pleasure it give you per hour? Like this sure you complain to bapak ayam that his girl no good value if you can calculate like that.

this guy made me buy ori games



its gabe newell

lol dude, HP is HP, game is game. HP is for using, game is for entertainment. Both not same ok? HP won't get bored if you used it too many times, but game will.

I mean like HP is MAIN, game just additional. You get what I mean?

Mentality does play a big part. How many people have said that they would pirate/BT a game in this thread alone? Obviously they see nothing wrong with cheating someone out of the money that they should have earned. It's a primitive, savage mentality that permeates our society at all levels. That being said, mentality plays only half the part. The other half of the equation has to do with our economic situation and earning power as well. You should acknowledge that it plays a significant role in turning to 'alternatives'.

Well pleasure is a subjective matter ...so if one person thinks its bad value...another will think it is very good value. I'm just calculating how long i played the game for the money i payed for it. I'm not making an estimation of fun per hour because that can be argued as of diminishing value etc. So i'll keep it simple and calculate like this instead.

Like for instance if you take what some dotards say..."DoTa is better than sex" then you have to agree with me that for them DoTA is extremely good value and fun.

This post has been edited by frags: Nov 4 2008, 02:59 PM

ok this one don't really apply here that much.. went a company fight Piracy they end up encoraging Piracy.. here the big example EA games, look it up on the Spore DRM thinggy. . which make any one that buy Ori have to suffer some BS but Pirated one don't need to worried about they BS. yes is EA right to protect they product But then what they did to protect it is Illegal in the fist place. now they getting sue

Well to me HP is not "MAIN" and it is not good value to me to spend 1000 bucks on that. But because i find it not good value doesn't give me the right to get a pirated version or steal it simply because it is terrible value for money. No i dont buy it.

Entertainment is not cheap. Like the previous poster said...hiring an escort girl/or pros can be more expensive...worth or not?

Let me conclude
why ppl go for pirated:
1) ori too exp
2) ori quality same as pirated, why pay more?
3) pirated are more easy to get as ori, sometimes can't even get ori ver.
4) pirated are "free", why we pay? especially ppl subscribe Strea**x
5) intellectual property is free, some ppl really think in this way!
6) buy pirated for testing purpose...

why ppl go for ori:
1) i love the thing, so i pay
2) ppl made an effort to build the thing, we need to pay
3) ori make me feel good in terms of quality
4) ori price consider "acceptable" for me, so i go for it
5) ori version got freebie, and it worth, so i pay!
6) can't find the pirated one, so i go for ori

welcome to add in more...

HP got pirated version?

Well, I've got a question, why you keep mention 1k bucks? Buying RM 100 ~ 900 is not restricted ok?


And in woshikurt's why ppl go for ori conclusion, I found just 1 that is acceptable.

2) ppl made an effort to build the thing, we need to pay

1) i love the thing, so i pay < -- its ur fault
3) ori make me feel good in terms of quality <--- its ur fault too
4) ori price consider "acceptable" for me, so i go for it <--- consider acceptable for you doesnt mean everyone
5) ori version got freebie, and it worth, so i pay! <-- not everyone will buy ori version coz it got freebie
6) can't find the pirated one, so i go for ori <-- thats the matter of urs.

Other these are almost consider as crap

why ppl go for pirated:
1) ori too exp <-- yep, its true
2) ori quality same as pirated, why pay more? <-- yeah, wads the diff is just original much valuable than pirated, if u're looking for valueable, GTFO, tats ur matter.
3) pirated are more easy to get as ori, sometimes can't even get ori ver. <-- tats ur living area got prob
4) pirated are "free", why we pay? especially ppl subscribe Strea**x <-- i dun get wad u mean by free,why we pay
5) intellectual property is free, some ppl really think in this way! <-- same as 4)
6) buy pirated for testing purpose... <-- yeah, no ppl will buy ori version for just testing n spend rm100 ++ *except for noobs*

3) is unacceptable, its ur matter, not everyone's living area the same.

This post has been edited by xJoeX: Nov 4 2008, 03:21 PM

add this in Ori have DRM (some) that is illegal in the fist place, brech of privese right, and some time will damage your hard ware pemanetly ie your DVD writer.

pirated. don't have the Above crap

well that is just one company EA games.. they getting sue for it but still want to do it. check google for more information. EA is not the only one that did it but they are the one still doing it at that level

This post has been edited by Revliss: Nov 4 2008, 03:17 PM

What i mean is....those are common reasons ppl go for ori/pirated....

Game companies can prevent piracy like setting up DRM and online activation. New games like C&C:Red Alert 3 are already using these methods to stop piracy. You don't see any pirate Red Alert 3 around, do you? Gaming is not a need. If you have no money to buy, then you don't deserve to buy games.

yeah i know, just doing some explanation hahas



No, i do found a pirated red alert 3 in pudu there. Wow, very offensive arent you? You mean only those who got money can buy game? And those who doesnt have money unable to buy? wad rule is this? Wad for for buying original? Just play a few month or a year den just put it away. Do the game company really care how you support their game? they dun even care a piece of shit how u support them, they just care about money.



yeah, im interested to know too.

This post has been edited by xJoeX: Nov 4 2008, 03:34 PM

Here something i wanna bring up..

What the point promoting us to buy Oris.. while the malaysia internet is so crappy for online gaming..

I think the best reason for buying ori games is the online content and the packaging.

plus make u feel little bit 'cleaner' too

you do know becos of this DRM thinggy Ea is getting sue right ? itnot cos they don't have the right to protect they game is the DRM they using that is Illegal.

no matter how strong the DRM, those cracking team still got the way to crack/bypass it...
the world biggest software company--> microsoft still failing to fight against pirated issue...
in china, microsoft release their cheap version of office, rm50+-, but limit to install on 1 PC...
but, still got 95% of chinese go for pirated office...
it's ppl's problem, not the software...
ppl sell rm100, we want it rm50
ppl sell rm50, we wait it rm25
ppl think it's free, why pay...?

Depend on game lo, if teh game has on9 and replayability then get ori otherwise get pirate..

eg:
Team Fortress 2 : good replayability (this 1 pirate tarak 1)

Red Alert 3 : good game and co-op mode (on9 play onli for ori)

Devil May Cry 4 : good graphic but no good replayability to me so why bother get ori

one simple question:
given the high speed internet, would you go for Oris?
at that time, we only think of where to download the games, and Seagate/WD will be happy....

Online game is another method to prevent pirated as it will constantly generate income compare with standalone game...
eg WoW generates tons of money

oh and one thing i forgeten to say Red Alert 3 cd key only valid for 5 install, if you install uninstall over 5 time then you need to get a new copy of the game. not a lot of pepole know that, but that not for anti Pirate that is to stop the game being sell as sconen hand