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ArianneG
post Oct 16 2009, 10:30 PM

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A question to all the sifus and fans here:

I hear good things about Edifier and am willing to give it a try. I am looking for a system that can pwn and replace my old faithful AL ATP3 speakers and last as long (as of writing, ATP3 speakers are about 8 years now). Will use the speakers just about exclusively for music and the occasional movie/video. The speakers will be connected to my laptop mostly (sometimes to portable CD player).

My musical tastes are very varied-- I listen to classical music (Mozart, Chopin, etc), ethnic stuff (bhajans, gamelan, Japanese and Chinese traditional music), movie soundtracks, choral music (like church music-- Google "Allegri Miserere youtube" and click on the videos if you want to hear what I mean), country music, classic rock like Metallica, Led Zeppelin, Kansas, Queen and AC/DC, heavy metal, New Age stuff and a lot of other things, so the speakers need to be able to cover a wide range, with good clarity of sound (very important) and decent treble and bass.

This afternoon I went and listened to the M3200 and the M3300 as well as the C3 at my local store. Of the three, I definitely liked the C3 sound as it's pretty clear (Can definitely tell the difference between 128 kbps mp3 and 320 kbps mp3-- wanted to test with lossless but couldn't, sadly); with good bass, and still within my price range (RM390) but the size of the subwoofer is going to be a problem as my room is rather small... Did not like the M3200 at all, and M3300 is just... meh.

Are there any other Edifier systems with sound comparable to the C3, but less huge? The store guy said that with my listening tastes leaning towards classical and orchestral I could also go for the M3310 but I haven't been able to hear it yet to judge. I only have a budget of RM400 max.

Please help me?
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post Oct 17 2009, 12:32 PM

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I see online reviews very good for S330-- and that there's a digital version also available, the S330D. Is the S330D available in Malaysia, and if so how much is the usual price and where can i find it? Also, any major difference between S330 and S330D?
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post Oct 20 2009, 01:47 AM

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Hmm. You could always try plugging the set into a CD player or something... maybe try and hookup to a DVD player if nothing else?
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post Oct 23 2009, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:09 PM)
In my opinion, both are nearly as good as each other in terms of sound and built quality.

It's down to which sound signature you prefer...

C3 does not have it's own "sound" and will follow the source, so if you use a poor source like on-board sound port, C3 will reveal it's flaws and sound weak especially in terms of bass.
QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Oct 22 2009, 05:33 PM)
Yeap, you will need at least a X-Fi series card to bring it out. If not more expensive cards like Asus or Auzentech...
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So does this mean that if I want to have good sound coming from my Dell Inspiron 1420 with the C3, I STILL have to plonk down money for an external soundcard, just in case bass and other stuff not enough? The soundcard on this thing is integrated, one of those SigmaTel High Definition things. Aiyo. I'm about to pokai just from buying the speakers already...

hmm.gif Maybe I should drag my laptop with me to audit, but Dells are danged heavy, and I can't drive cos no car... Then again when I tested the C3 in the shop last week using my Samsung YP-U3 mp3 player, bass still sounds pretty good on rock music like AC/DC's "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap". Considering that my Samsung player generally sounds a bit poorer than my onboard speakers, I should be safe, yeah?

Oh yeah, if I want to buy the C3, should I wait for PC Fair to see if I can get better deals, or just go whenever? Right now where I live C3 is going for RM 390.
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post Oct 23 2009, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(DarthMaus @ Oct 23 2009, 03:23 PM)
IMHO, I doubt that C3's price will actually drop during the PC fair. At most, they'll give u some freebies (headsets, mouse pad, bag...). Bought mine at RM390, 6 months ago.

Just got a second hand Zero DAC to pair with my C3. Changed my speaker cables to slightly thicker ones. All I can say it that it sounds more expensive  tongue.gif . Can't complain coz investment less than RM700 for everything. Wonder if there's anything else I can do to make it better...  blink.gif
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Hmm... drool.gif. That Zero DAC looks interesting, but have no money to buy it anyway. Rather out of budget. cry.gif I just want a good experience with music, better than my current no-name brand of 2.1 speakers. The most I'm willing to do with my budget is buy new speakers, and aybe a new external soundcard, if necessary. Do you think I should?

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post Oct 23 2009, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(DarthMaus @ Oct 23 2009, 07:42 PM)
Actually, the Zero is not expensive. I got mine at RM280, the price of an mid-range sound card. Be on a lookout for resale units. Doubt that u can get new ones now... unless someone starts a bulk order. The C3 definately needs a sound card/ DAC of some sort. I am actually on a budget too  biggrin.gif
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Walau eh, really? drool.gif So bro, which is better, USB external soundcard or DAC? Also do you know where to find these types of resale unit? I dunno where to start looking... hmm.gif Please advise, thanks!

RM 280 for DAC or soundcard would be perfect, since I probably will wait until late this year/early next year to get my C3 (must figure out WHERE to put it first in my room, room is rather full of things, haha)-- that means I can get it now. Haih, budget DAMNED tight, how ah? icon_question.gif Because I went and Googled the Zero DAC, and now I see there's a product that's supposed to sound waaaaay better than the Zero (Audio-gd Compass DAC) that is >RM1000... drool.gif drool.gif I think I have to wait until I actually get a job and my first paycheck... cry.gif


QUOTE(sai86 @ Oct 23 2009, 07:43 PM)
hi guys, juz wanted some opinion/recommendation from u guys about edifier speaker which cost <RM400....plz recommend me some model as im not very knowledgeable in this speaker thing >.<...

thxs....smile.gif
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What type of speakers are you looking for? 2.1 or 5.1? What will you be using it for mostly, music, gaming or movies? For Edifier 2.1 I advise go with C3, the sound is nice. Others would also recommend S series, which I plan on auditioning if I can, you can go take a look and listen yourself. 5.1 most people would probably say to go with R501, I think.

If you're not decided which type of speakers to go for, I suggest you look at this thread: Please recommend a... 2.1 or 5.1 speaker set V2

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post Oct 24 2009, 03:06 AM

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Wow. Is this LED removal mod you speak of easy even for technically and DIY challenged people like me? Because I HATE the LED at night, but I am in the habit of falling asleep to music.

I'm the kind of person who can make disasters with a screwdriver and screws... laugh.gif (Maybe not that bad, but I get nervous with these things)
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post Oct 24 2009, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(DarthMaus @ Oct 24 2009, 01:55 PM)
Internal or external, imho, is preference and budget. I have friends who swear by their Asus Sonar. As I have a budget constrain, my set-up is good enough. You do get what you pay for. Well, I just try to limit my entire set-up to about RM800, which includes the C3, Zero, new speaker cables and interconnects. Audiophiles will probably laugh  doh.gif  at my set-up but as long as I am happy... who cares?

You can be on the lookout for resale Zeros here in the forum. I think that there's another modded Zero for sale but at a higher price  sad.gif . When are you gonna get a job?  tongue.gif
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Haha, still in university. Another 3 years before I hit the job market for real... Maybe next summer I should go on one of those Work and Travel USA trips to earn USD... Haih. I only want to spend like RM 600. So I think I will get the C3 first. Improve speakers first before anything else; currently my speakers are probably crappy enought that C3 even on integrated sound card will sound waaay better. wink.gif


QUOTE(nismo91 @ Oct 24 2009, 03:10 PM)
i dismantled 3 LED from 3 speakers. hmm, one of them very easy, just find the thin cable that goes to LED direction... i just unplug the socket and its gone... another one, cant find the wire, have to force cut the LED leg. another one is even easier.. just open the circuit and cut it.

i really encourage this LED removal for speaker system that its LED starts dancing, of course the socket method is better, so that you can plug it back if you'd like to sold it...

may i know what speaker are u using? im pretty sure the method is not really difficult. but the fact that the LED affect the subwoofer sound is real and therefore i think his post deserve more views.  laugh.gif
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Hmm. I was planning to buy the C3, or maybe the S330. Most likely C3 since I fell in love with the sound already and it's within my price limit of RM 400. The thing I hate about nearly all the speakers available nowadays is the super bright LED lighting around that is very disturbing, especially if it's blue colour. Very difficult to sleep at night in darkened room with speakers on for music when you see the lights on all the time.... Currently I cover up the subwoofer on my current set of speakers and only uncover it when I need to adjust volume and things like that, because the light makes me mad.gif

So if can get rid of the LED light with minimal fuss, drool.gif thumbup.gif rclxms.gif
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post Oct 25 2009, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 25 2009, 01:42 AM)
so u will hate @ zero dac whistling.gif xtra-brite-blu-lite
dun mad at me lol tongue.gif
besides, the old version takes only optical or coaxial input. zero "2009" has USB.
make sure you know how to setup & connect or get USB SPDIF if the seller has it.
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Eh. Currently I think I'll skip the DAC and go for a better soundcard. I reckon that if I want to buy a DAC I'll save up for the Audio-gd Compass. Anyone can recommend external soundcard good for listening to music that won't blow Grand Canyon sized holes in the pocket?

Also, USB SPDIF? What's that? rclxub.gif
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post Oct 31 2009, 10:58 PM

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A question for C3 owners, or maybe Mr Edifier himself-- how much do the C3 satellites weigh? icon_question.gif I'm thinking of putting my subwoofer on the floor under my desk, and the satellites on top of my bookshelves which are directly next to each other ON the desk-- one on each (will be scarily high up), but am worried the bookshelves may not survive and fall apart laugh.gif. My bookshelf top maximum load is about 2-3 kg I think. Can ah? Because if I don't put up there I no space to put at all, floor is all full... sad.gif
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post Nov 1 2009, 02:01 AM

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Thanks for the prompt reply! 1.2kg per satellite should not be a problem; the woofer is going on the floor and the amplifier on the table itself, so all should be fine. Now the only problem I will have is moving the satellites onto the bookshelves, which will involve climbing tables. laugh.gif And how long are the cables between the satellites and amplifier, and woofer to amp? I need about 3 feet to be safe. The cables provided are longer than that right?
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post Nov 9 2009, 06:52 PM

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*stares at C6 pics and review*

drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

RM799? Hmm. Should I buy a C3 or head straight for C6 when I have the cash? Right now I only have enough to buy C3, but only listening to music in stereo... *is torn*
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post Nov 10 2009, 07:41 PM

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So-- for classical and orchestral music-- C3 or S330 better? The kacau thing is that I am trying to see where can find S330 to audit besides Low Yat. Midvalley or Subang got ah?
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post Nov 12 2009, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(Edifier @ Nov 11 2009, 10:16 AM)
S330 better smile.gif
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Hmm, ok. But will it also sound good for other genres of music? I also listen to a lot of heavy metal/rock and things like that. Also-- anyone know where got good price for S330? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 13 2009, 01:08 AM

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Hmm. Any headamp/DAC tha goes well with the C3 besides the Zero DAC? Need recommendations for a DAC to improve sound that won't blow holes in my bank account. Any good ones under RM400?
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post Dec 21 2009, 06:51 PM

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Just plonked RM390 on Edifier C3, finally! Going to pick up tomorrow morning.
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post Dec 22 2009, 01:34 PM

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Ok, noob question here: This is my first time setting up speakers with cables instead of jacks. I just bought my C3 and am using the stock cables.

While setting up I notice that while the amplifier section doesn't have any positive or negative symbols on the back, the sub and satellites have positive and negative symbols above each of the ports. The positive sign is above the red coloured port and the negative above the black colour port. The speaker cables have two sides/strands, one copper colour and the other silver colour.

Now I wired the sub and sats so that the copper coloured strand on each cable is connected to the positive (red) port. Is this correct? I don't want to reverse something and blow a fuse on my new baby. XD

Thank you.
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QUOTE(power911 @ Dec 22 2009, 02:19 PM)
it's correct!!!!! rclxm9.gif
good job thumbup.gif
now lets get the silver ones on the black terminals  tongue.gif
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Whew! I'd finished wiring everything already before posting my question, just didn't dare turn it on yet. Now that it's confirmed I did it right, going to go switch on the C3 for the first time and enjoy some good music! Thanks for the confirmation.

Second question: My extension jack's cord is long, but the C3 power cable isn't. hmm.gif As it is right now most of my appliances and cables are best on the left side of my desk so it won't get in my way, but the length of the C3 power cable mandates I put the extension jack on the RIGHT side of my desk since that's where the amplifier is. I don't want the amplifier on the left because it's too close to the wall, and will get rather warm in the day, not to mention dusty because of the window. Is it possible to pick up an alternative, longer power cable and use it instead? Will it void warranty?

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Dec 25 2009, 11:29 PM)
guys, between C3 and S330, which one is better for music? focusing in terms of clarity, not bass. thanks! notworthy.gif
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Uhm, I believe that the two systems aren't exactly in the same class-- S330 is higher end. Supposed to be better than C3 in all respects. Myself, am using C3 because I can't afford S330, but within the 3 days I've had the C3, I can say that if you're in a small room, the bass on the C3 is pretty ample if you just turn up the volume a bit. I have mine on volume 19-20+, and so far the bass is shaking my table, furniture and walls when I play "Enter Sandman". Mind you, the woofer is right under my table and close to the corner, so that probably affects things some.
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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Dec 26 2009, 09:41 AM)
so i guess the s330 is going to shake up things even more. aww man... that's why i hate living in a college... hmm, guess i'll audition the speakers first. i've been wanting the s330 for too long already, must have it somehow! tongue.gif thanks for the feedback! notworthy.gif
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This is why I use a Denn 2.1 speaker set on campus-- smaller and less powerful, while the C3 stays at home. tongue.gif Those 'Buatan Malaysia' speakers are really loud, quite clear, not bad treble and have strong bass already (actually pretty good sound for RM60, don't regret buying at all), and my campus dorm is even smaller than my bedroom, so I don't dare put anything like a C3 in there.

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