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 SVS subwoofer, How many users here? Just courious

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ar188
post Oct 26 2009, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 26 2009, 09:30 AM)
Thanks a lot, guys for the postings. Glad to hear about it.

Now, we shall be looking forward to the next 'test subject'  brows.gif
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send it to super sub fella.. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 26 2009, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(ckyongs @ Oct 25 2009, 10:41 PM)
Thanks to anfieldude for consultation. Here are the charts ASEQ1 charts.
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wow, smooth flat plateau you have there.. which subs model you using again? the svs and also the old sub?
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post Oct 26 2009, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(HT Freak @ Oct 26 2009, 10:04 PM)
Agree with you.
Now SVS is not affordable item like last time anymore.
And now with this EQ,i also notice SVS buyer need to spend another extra 3k+ for the EQ.

Now it meant for the ELITE only.
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no logic..

one is advance EQ to correct any type of sub under real world room conditions be it svs, submersive or JL or what ever..

the other is a sub...

please compare apples and oranges...


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post Oct 26 2009, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Oct 26 2009, 06:05 PM)
I noticed from the post that SVS kind of not good on its own. Its kind of not justify to spend extra 3k+ just to get the correct sound from SVS.
Now I wonder should I or should I not hmm.gif
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even if you spend 20k on a sub you would be able to sort out the room issues on it's own.. please understand what the EQ1 does... it's not just used for SVS sub but for any other sub...

in fact it has 2 channels for subs, so you can add 1 more other sub if you have...


Added on October 26, 2009, 11:36 pm
QUOTE(kiam @ Oct 26 2009, 11:34 PM)
change topic...

look at this crap curve.

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wow, 20Hz output is like slightly above ambient background room noise.. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 26 2009, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 26 2009, 11:56 PM)
Did you load the correction curves for the SPL Meter you are using?
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yeah hor..

anyway, I'm begining to think SPL meters aint supposed to be used for 10-50hz measurement..

to do a +20db weighting correction is a joke.. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 26 2009, 11:34 PM)


Elemental Designs A7-900 ($2200 ID/SI): 116 points (63-53)
Epik Conquest ($1599 ID): 112 points (60-52)
SVS PB13-Ultra ($1499 ID): 109 points (57-52)
Epik Castle ($999 ID): 109 points (59-50)
AV123 MFW-15 Duals: 109 points (56-53) (note, duals were tested as duals are offered as a package)
Creative Sounds Dual SDX-15 driver + Behringer EP-2500 Amp + Behringer DEQ2496 ($1630 ID): 105 points (57-48)
JL Audio Fathom 113 ($3500 BM): 103 points (53-50)
AV123 MFW-15 ($599 ID): 103 points (53-50)
Def Tech Trinity ($3000 BM): 102 points (54-48)
Velodyne DD-18 ($5000 BM): 100 points (50-50)
wow JL share same points as AV123 sub USD599.. cool..

I think I rather try two MFW-15.. biggrin.gif heard good reviews apart from amp kaputing..
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 27 2009, 12:09 AM)
as the name implies, it's RM13k whistling.gif
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your submersive also kalah.. he got 3.6KW.. yours got how many? tongue.gif
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:18 AM

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pro's kit taiwan? hmm..
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post Oct 27 2009, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Oct 27 2009, 08:57 AM)
The F113 have a built in Auto EQ called ARO

from UltimateAVmag:-
so it's like a mini EQ1 built-in the sub, and maybe that make it higher cost....but surely the F113 is a beauty and very WAF friendly, I would want one if the price same as SVS PB13ultra  tongue.gif  , but at double the price of it.... I think Submersive looks very attractive with dual woofer tongue.gif
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better dun use this phrase mini EQ1 inside the sub.. do the EQ 1 injustice..
I recall what ron said to htkaki andme during lunch.. parametric EQ... =/= EQ1 ... biggrin.gif

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post Oct 27 2009, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Oct 27 2009, 09:59 AM)
Already placed order. Still waiting for arrival rolleyes.gif
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biggrin.gif postman is htkaki ?
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post Oct 27 2009, 10:21 AM

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fuyoh, taukeh do hand delivery for you? wow...
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post Oct 27 2009, 11:30 AM

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ok la. Better than me. Buy plasma fm him collect at roadside. Haha. Wanted it fast so intercept his lorry driver. Haha.
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post Oct 27 2009, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 27 2009, 12:31 PM)
Boss, that's why I am eager to know how well it performs against the 13-Ultra + EQ1 in a given room with little acoustic treatment if not none at all.
I dunno but I'm wondering why JL not top 3 in the craig sub list ? with 3600W power wor.. biggrin.gif pay so much but can't perform decent dB output at 10-20Hz wan?

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post Oct 27 2009, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 27 2009, 01:34 PM)

I gave up trying to educate people last night. I was also given some very good advise on how I shd go for some for some chill classes.
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biggrin.gif heard they recommend you to go anger management class..
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post Oct 27 2009, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 27 2009, 01:34 PM)
I believe I spend too much time trying to impart knowledge when people are not receptive. Comparing apples to oranges is the norm these days.
next time, keep the info on ISF video tuning, sub calibration, handheld measurement tools, software etc amongst friends... biggrin.gif

at least you help them they are grateful or even return the favour in other ways.. brows.gif


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QUOTE(jchong @ Oct 27 2009, 01:46 PM)
I suppose the JL emphasizes sound quality over quantity.
and sound quality includes how the room affects the final sound to the listener's ears right..?

all the more for those RM13k sub users (whose emphasis on sound quality) to appreciate how the EQ1 can complement their expensive sub to improve or correct their room conditions... rather than shoot it down as a product competitor.. I think.. smile.gif



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QUOTE(s6xs9x @ Oct 27 2009, 05:05 PM)
now we're doing bass management or anger management oh? whistling.gif
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EQ1 can control anger also.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(JiauBoy @ Oct 27 2009, 07:07 PM)
some noob question again : how u know your amp 'match' the sub? or vise versa
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no need to know cos the sub got it's own amp.. just make sure your amp got sub pre outs.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 28 2009, 12:33 PM)
Gramma is abt RM290 per pc.
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what's this? like rockwool ar? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Oct 28 2009, 09:05 PM)
htkaki,
no need to look for the PrimeAV lar....I lend u mine...u go scan tongue.gif
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I tot you bought extra copies for him.. biggrin.gif that's why won 1st price mah.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(eye @ Nov 2 2009, 11:30 AM)
Wifey will go bonkers if our huge bin is parked some where in the middle of the living room ahahahahah!!

imagine if put that black gramma thing on the PC sub.. look like DBKL tong sampah on pellets.. biggrin.gif

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