QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 3 2009, 08:28 PM)
bet u all kena SVS poison teruk teruk liao 
yeah and you tot you drank the antidote earlier to avoid svs disease, but actually infact is seaton poison also.. 
SVS subwoofer, How many users here? Just courious
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QUOTE(HornyAngMoh @ Oct 4 2009, 09:37 PM) Wow! PB 12+! wah inside so pink wan?  He! He! I don't mind poking in apart like this:-[attachmentid=1231248] [attachmentid=1231250]  But then the boxed vision will be different! Do get ready for some ceiling roof rattling sexperiance! |
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Oct 5 2009, 12:21 AM) Where is the review on AS-EQ1 with dual subs? which review?Please share la... Eager to know anyway stereophile review..  http://www.stereophile.com/musicintheround..._38/index1.html |
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 5 2009, 11:02 AM) wow... ur upgraditis kicked in so fast?? that's y i advised most to go for pb13 ultra that's what svs ron told me to get..   ...all aim so high end model wan..  |
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 5 2009, 11:52 PM) Just like jchong mentioned, 13-Ultra has a lot power to be unleashed. Just that do you have the room for it. So, it is better to have so much power in reserve than having very little out of it. Say a less than 300W sub in a medium size room. It won't go loud and probably bottoms out real quick too. Ouch after get ultra, still need to get EQ1.. more $$ fly away.. |
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 6 2009, 12:03 AM) For you perhaps wah, MPYW got another 5% off.. For others, I think probably no since they will think like this :"WTF?! Bass that used to rumble whole room, hit my chest and face is GONE!" Not gone. Jz that the boominess and all other factors affecting the bass are being corrected to become a clean, undistorted bass. You buy an Ultra, you get a 5% on the S-EQ1. Basically, you buy a sub, the second unit will have discount. Of course, 1st unit need to be equivalent or higher price than 2nd unit lah. book one for MPYW.. |
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 6 2009, 12:19 AM) On another note, Ron was asking what sub that you are using right now. Time for you to get a good sub if you do not has one now cannot la.. have to buy tires for my zoom zoom.. Submersive? Or 13-Ultra + AS-EQ1?  |
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QUOTE(gnsumas @ Oct 6 2009, 12:21 AM) Take bus for a month la that's a stupid remark... because buy subwoofer need to take bus for a month?   |
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 6 2009, 12:25 AM) even of you want to buy now, no stock. Have to wait til mid Nov or later. That also I ma trying to forecast the quantity to be brought in. Else, if sapu habis before the shipment hit out shore, it would be in 2010 liao. just order 10-20units la.. Added on October 6, 2009, 12:28 am QUOTE(gnsumas @ Oct 6 2009, 12:26 AM) Subwoofer help release tekanan. ?? can bring where to release tekanan?? Bus, car, moto, bicycle... All also bring you to place where tekanan is built up (work podowin  )This post has been edited by ar188: Oct 6 2009, 12:28 AM |
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Oct 6 2009, 08:03 AM) after fine tune the PC12+ the sign + doesnt suit you..now I can feel the power... tested the Wolvarin Trailer....only on DD, WOOOOOW....my whole room are pressurized with all LFE.....the explosion are powerful and my favorite test BD...House of the Flying Daggers... Scene 3 where Zhang Zhiyi doing the drum dance...the sound of the drums are so real and I can hear the lowest vibration ever from the big drums... also, the fight scene in the bamboo forest...when she wave the bamboo....I can feel the air brushing over my face....wonderful.... So funny that I get all this after I connect the Y spliter to the sub, raise the x-over to 100Hz, reduce the Gain to 10 o'clock and sub level to -6.5db They said the Y spliter is only waste of money but I feel the diff without have to turning up the gain and level of the sub & AVR.... Like this, me no need PC13Ultra liao....the 12+ really really loud enough for me already.... ultra word suit you.. |
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QUOTE(jchong @ Oct 6 2009, 12:10 PM) That's in the best case scenario - where the 2 subs are co-located. If the subs are separated it might be less than +6 dB, more like somewhere in +3 to +6 dB. what some do is they stack up the two sub boxes (like those subs from AV123) .. (easier to connect both subbie to EQ1 also) |
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 6 2009, 02:24 PM) Bro, kiam is staying in KL lah. Not him and for the record, his is PC13-Ultra. fuyoh! elite! |
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QUOTE(gnsumas @ Oct 7 2009, 06:43 PM) How much is a PC13Ultraman? no need to ask price, unless of course if you got big wallet.. |
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Oct 7 2009, 10:41 PM)   straight to my heart *open small wallet got a few Rm10 nie*  |
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one important thing it the Feedback Loop...
you measure the output and the results get back into the system,.. manual EQ dun have that.. so it's just bringing the adjustments to ball park guessing figure at best.. |
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QUOTE(taqies @ Oct 10 2009, 11:31 PM) He's using REW to measure his response, surely he can do the feedback loop himself, oh, using computer with audio mic in..1) measures 2) determines the EQ values 3) dials in the EQ values 4) measures 5) if flat response settle, if not go to step 1 the only drawback is you need the time to do all these things, if time is at a premium, consider automatic EQ tools such as EQ1 anyway, a normal wideband EQ doesn;'t come with hundreds/thousands of minute parametric frequency adjustments.. at a single 60Hz setting is already enuf to upset the whole 10-100Hz range.. I'm guessing that's what the modern $$$ equipment does so, say for example when you do step 3, it already messes up the adjacent frequencies in steps of 1 hz or less.. .. |
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QUOTE(taqies @ Oct 11 2009, 12:04 AM) Use REW to measure his response and dials in the values into Behringer. Forgot to add you can simulate how the EQ values can affect your response before you dial the values into the Behringer. Of course it will messes up as that is what you intended to do, messes up your response till you get a flattish response. I was refering to the original poster asking about using his 9band EQ.. Should be like this lorr simple setup 1) measures 2) determines the EQ values (Frequency, bandwidth, gain) 3) simulates them 3) dials in the EQ values 4) measures 5) if flat response settle, if not go to step 1(or almost similar to your simulation) Have a look at this tutorial on how to use behringer to EQ your sub. http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/bfdmeasure/ but good read on the behringer.. |
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QUOTE(taqies @ Oct 11 2009, 12:13 AM) I thought you were asking me. |
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 11 2009, 11:43 PM) Courier fee for PB12-NSD to Kuching is RM290 excluding insurance while PC12-NSD is abt RM40 cheaper. wah NST reviewAdded on October 12, 2009, 11:58 amIn the news again : http://technu.nst.com.my/Current_News/tech...icle/index_html |
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 12 2009, 02:43 PM) Added on October 12, 2009, 2:54 pmaiks... very blur. PRIME AV equipment, evaluation of new audio-visual ◎ Quake's Vaillant has in order to reproduce the Twilight of the Gods SVS PB13-Ultra (map) Active Subwoofer Wen / Huang Weilun Photography / radius. Li Ting In Nordic mythology, there is a legend on the end of the world, called "Twilight of the Gods." Content describes how the god with the giants and ethnic-based war between other ethnic groups, the process is extremely bitter so that heaven and earth become distorted, causing end of the world. Among the many gods, there is a powerful god named "Sol" (Thor), he used the weapon is "Quake." "Quake" is the strongest weapon in the Nordic mythology, which can be generated by lightning breakdown anything, as long as the soles handheld Quake, and even a giant family is also very afraid of him. The ancient Nordic people believe that as long as the thunder and lightning, that moment the god of thunder and lightning, "Sol" carriage ride in the sky patrolling the moment. By the myth of the description, is easy to see Saul in the "Twilight of the Gods" campaign in the final battle of the miserable. Perhaps one day Hollywood will appear similar to the films, if seriously taken up, its magnificent scene of busy I am afraid that no less than is now popular "Transformers." And I'm quite concerned about is, most people can reproduce at home cinema in general low-frequency momentum? Seems, is the flagship models look like That sent the company's SVS PB13-Ultra, I think this dream will not be too difficult to achieve! I Lyrics PB13-Ultra subwoofer ever, the size of the most significant one. It's positive for more than 50 cm square, cabinet depth of a staggering 68 cm and weighing more than 70 kilograms. Although its size is only 13-inch woofer, but the panel there are three-hole bass reflex, it seems is the flagship models look. In order to drive Zheke ultra-high-performance woofer, internal use BASH expansion of machine output power up to 750W. Zheke woofer how exaggerated it? I have seen original pictures and data and found that this single very large size, its diameter 3-inch voice coil, using aluminum flat wire wound into a coil that can withstand high temperature and high-power crushed. Leave a very large coil surrounding the space cooling, using two 9-inch big shells waves, two magnetic super-giant magnet, diaphragm before and after the swing of up to two inches big. Also, the monomer units within the pole part of the copper rings are used to reduce the eddy current, can reduce the distortion monomer. The design of these extraordinary told me that, no wonder PB13-Ultra can use 13-inch single is not the real issue of extremely low frequency attenuation of 20Hz. I carefully observed Zheke monomer, and its surrounds is not only super-wide surprise, is also an auto-suture fixation together with the diaphragm, the diaphragm can be seen swinging in the scope and strength of how huge, just is not enough to force viscose . In the PB13-Ultra weighing 70 kg in weight, light monomer accounted for 20 kg, it is inconceivable that design. Be able to send the right frequency, is a good subwoofer To cope with the air throughput Zheke monomer, the panel there were three 3.5-inch bass reflex Kong, reflecting both within and outside tube trumpet design, to avoid the heated air flow sound of the wind shear. OEM also said that this reflex Kong as "high-flow reflector hole" is a performance for the PB13-Ultra brand new design. I have seen many high-end ultra-low tone, most of the use of sealed design, but the PB13-Ultra is reflective design, we can see its own monomer and BASH amplifier performance, quite confident. Whether it airtight, or reflective, can send the right frequency, is a good subwoofer. In addition to monomer and outside the box design is very exaggerated, PB13-Ultra is also extremely wide range of adjustment features. A general adjustment of subwoofer functions such as "volume", "phase", "crossover point" it has in addition, it also provides four kinds of "Room Comp" adjustable features, Sec "Subsonic Filter" options and "Parametric EQ" feature, which is what I used the function should be the most complex of ultra-low sound. The face of such a powerful subwoofer performance, I intend to plant with the same AS-EQ1 together. In fact, no one to join before the subwoofer equalizer, it has already been PB13-Ultra with the other multi-channel speakers, office colleagues in almost all been scared off of it! Because it sends very low frequency, so that the office issued a ringing constantly light steel frame, everyone comes concern about what really happened. A formal test, I choose Triangle Top with the second-Genese series of multi-channel speakers, surround amplifier is a Denon AVR-4310. The charm of extremely low frequency 20Hz insight Adjust the speakers anyway, I found that the low-frequency PB13-Ultra too Tough, ambitious, must be allowed to leave the back wall, so I will move it to the left channel next to go, and put it off a small volume. After some initial adjustment, it has been able to feel the office of the PB13-Ultra extraordinary. PB13-Ultra has a very deep low-frequency, let me an insight into the extremely low frequency 20Hz charm, the original low-frequency roll their pants will be all about. However, I know this is not the PB13-Ultra real strength. Technical editor of the second stage, please help bring the same plant AS-EQ1 Subwoofer Equalizer join the system. AS-EQ1 through participation in the process of adjustment, I think the AS-EQ1 is also a great equipment, can have the Audyssey system, surround amplifier, "fusion" to replace the low-frequency part of its test. After a series of tests, the results displayed on the computer screen, the original PB13-Ultra decorations position measured frequency response is so uneven. Uninformed people see, but he still thought Sinorama恶搞PB13-Ultra, deliberately put it in this bad position. In fact, this is a wonderful place where his ear, although the measured frequency response of this position is very flat, but I do not think there is nothing wrong with sound local ah! I felt as fast as the closed-designed Then start playing music, I came to understand that the original "good" sound, and does not correct. Taking the heavy metal music is full of low-frequency to illustrate, the original low-frequency vibrations to the ceiling constantly, while the body is full of the thrill of being swept bass. Through the equalizer after the amendment to the original standing waves decrease, while the vicinity of 30Hz ~ 40Hz filled depressions, and found the original cool flu is caused by standing wave, while the lack of bass fill came back, I heard the bass is full of layering , there are also broken lines Xi. Then re-read the play prior to the "deformation of James Bond" BD fragments, like the scene is full of blasting, but the sound has become a clean, smooth and natural, his pants still kept scrolling, but there is no oppressive, and the bass that come and stay away, there will be no clear-cut. Is hard to imagine this is a reflection of the ultra-low bass sound, because it's fast, I felt as fast as the closed-type. At the same time, PB13-Ultra has also retained a rich bass reflex-type feeling in Audition room was easily fill up the bass. Subwoofer in general only made me feel "Transformers" sound very bold and full of tension, but the PB13-Ultra but let me think "Transformers" sound is very real. Ju Bo King of gunfire sent as an example, using the PB13-Ultra can gunfire sound effects with the agitation of air, like shooting at the shooting range, like, not only just loud, but also with large guns, shocking the others. Powerful low-frequency to the dregs Using the PB13-Ultra for some time, I strongly feel that a good subwoofer for home theater sound changes brought about by not only low-frequency tight-knit and coherent, more immersive realism is also greatly enhanced the atmosphere of watching movies has been distinct change. I also found an interesting thing on the AV room in the original equipment, chassis even more than a lot of white powder! These powders come from? Originally by the low-frequency shock waves hit the ceiling, dust falling into the machine on top, is really terrible to the dregs! This is very powerful it? The performance of ultra-low tone is very keen. I thought the performance of these ultra-low tone, certainly the price is good and never thought that it was actually the most powerful pricing, than I guess the short of a few really unspeakable value. Would like to reproduce at home, "Twilight of the Gods" in apocalyptic scenes do? With just like in "Quake" Vaillant of the PB13-Ultra, can easily do so. Important feature of the A "next-generation 13-inch high-output woofer 2 "built-in BASH 750W RMS amplifier 3 "has four kinds of" Room Comp "adjustable function 4 "Sec choose a different extremely low frequency cut-off point" Subsonic Filter "feature 5 "with" Parametric EQ "adjustment function 6 "with reinforced box structure, the overall weight of up to 70 kg 7 "has three 3.5-inch diameter, high-volume bass reflex Kong 8 "With the output of a group of single-ended input and balanced terminal PB13-Ultra Type: Active bass reflex-type ● the use of monomers: 13-inch high-output woofer ● Output Power: 750W ● Frequency Response: 18Hz ~ 150Hz (± 3dB) ● Phase: 0 ~ 180 ° continuously adjustable low-pass filtering minutes ● Frequency: 40Hz ~ 120Hz continuously adjustable ● four kinds of "Room Comp" feature ● Adjustable four sections of different extremely low-frequency cut-off point "Subsonic Filter" select ● "Parametric EQ" adjustment feature ● Terminal: RCA × 2, XLR × 2 ● Appearance Dimension: 558 × 520 × 685mm (HWD) ● Weight: 70.3kg ● Reference Price ︰ 89,000 yuan ● Import Agent: Macro Industry International (02) 2357-0509 / 0938-097-988 ● Website www.svsound.com.tw Positive features (Figure) Super-large size and the bass reflex Kong Zheke ultra sound there is really big enough, the monomer big, large-bodied, big power amplifier, even the bass reflex is also a great hole! Even if the diameter is large, one also designed three, is not trying to replace an electric fan function? I think is also not necessary, even if it does not have this feature, is currently the most ultra-low sound of the ram. PB13-Ultra bass reflex-hole eye-catching addition to outside,这颗monomer is also very eye-catching, I do not know what kind of material used diaphragm, there hung a large circle of super-edges, and the use of car sutures to connect diaphragm, rather than Like an ordinary single use glue to. The black paint does not quite resemble the whole household products, but more like a recording studio to listen to speakers of Kam. The back features (Figure) Power of such a big surprise, there is no heat sink Originally thought that up to 750W of amplifier power, should have big heat sink, did not think there is not even. And the PB13-Ultra adjustment feature so much, I really worthy of a flagship models. A general adjustment of subwoofer functions such as "volume", "phase", "crossover point" it has in addition, it also provides four kinds of "Room Comp" adjustable features, four sections of different extremely low-frequency cut-off point "Subsonic Filter" option functions, and "Parametric EQ" adjustment function, while the terminal is part of the RCA and XLR input and output of a group. Such a wealth of adjustments, but even the veterans looked at the bar will be heart tickle! (Figure) Zheke single vibrational mode although only 13 inches, but its construction, materials are extremely luxurious designs. Voice coil diameter 3 inches, with aluminum flat wire wound into a coil, leaving a very large coil surrounding the space heat, able to withstand the ravages of high temperature and high power. For internal use two 9-inch big shells waves, two magnetic super-giant magnet, diaphragm before and after the swing of up to two inches big. Also, the monomer units within the pole part of the copper rings are used to reduce the eddy current, can reduce the distortion monomer. Light look at its size, frame and weight, it is not difficult to imagine its capability. Really lazy savior, standing wave Terminator (Figure) SVS launch of AS-EQ1 very fro-band equalizer is simply lazy savior, standing waves terminate the amendment through its powerful features, the frequency curve dramatic changes. However, its usage a bit complicated, the need to prepare a laptop, but also be able to connect to the network. In addition, plus a pair of extra signal lines, in order to make it a complete set of testing work (details please refer to the new audio-visual 169). Although the process is not very easy, but the result was very satisfactory, after the two combined is like Sol (AS-EQ1) hand Quake (PB13-Ultra) in general, no one can match. Foam plug and a very low-frequency cut-off point (map) This is the PB13-Ultra's unique specific features, generally the subwoofer are in the "Closed" or "reflective" of the box in the alternative use, but the PB13-Ultra looks like a reflective surface, but it has three foam plug can be adjusted with extremely low-frequency cut-off point. Adjust the corresponding button on the back when used in three-hole full-reflection on the election "20Hz", plugged a select "15Hz", plugged two "10Hz", plugged all three are "Sealed", while the reflection Kong plugged all the circumstances, PB13-Ultra is equivalent to a closed style of ultra-low sound. The miraculous transformation of the correction (Figure) (map) By using the pre-images can be seen, placing the subwoofer location of the measured frequency response is not flat, 30Hz ~ 40Hz between a great depression, 20Hz is elevated too much, but not very good around 100Hz. In theory, the sound should sound bad, did not expect the actual Lyrics will not be too difficult to listen to, we can see a sense of how the human ear to listen to some of the modification, it could be cool 20Hz uplift my sense of shelter to the other band sensitivity. However, AS-EQ1-band equalizer is really great to and fro so powerful that even so uneven response curve, can be amended to such an extent. Reference Software "Dark Knight" BD video (Figure) Start a clown bank robbery film a video clip showing PB13-Ultra is a touchstone of strength. Although this fragment is not surprising explosion scenes, background music has hidden a number of extremely low frequency, in the past when using other ultra-low sound can only feel a little bit of extremely low frequency, while the PB13-Ultra but allow me to fully appreciate the cool feeling of ELF. Especially the PB13-Ultra with AS-EQ1 adjustment, the very low frequency with music was born, and volume waves hit their pants dumb sense of the original music in the possession of so many extremely low frequency, in the past have not noticed how? "House of Flying Daggers" BD video (Figure) "House of Flying Daggers" movie in the "fairy guiding" fragments, often I brought the low-frequency test system performance. Zhang Ziyi to ribbon gradually from small drums sound great, and finally intensive percussion, recording results are quite exaggerated. Even when faced with such exaggerated sound effects, PB13-Ultra with AS-EQ1 still seemed at ease now, drum tight and flexible hours, the amount of the drum is large enough, magnificent, especially the last fragments of a continuous percussion, general Subwoofer may start to soft feet, but the PB13-Ultra was to add a little horsepower, sending waves of low frequency, playing Audition room inside, "off their feet." |
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