Or we till we find a better mod to calibrate the ruleset that is. Cuz both are just as crappy as each other being based on the same sourcecode since the original creator of PAM for CoD was that of Promod's.

EDIT - I am not nullifying this discussion.

Last edit - You guys need to play scrims through promod & its ruleset first before even posting here. No Touch, No talk.

This post has been edited by t3quila: Oct 19 2008, 04:29 PM

I can see his expression nor the tone in his comment so i think unless i know him personally i doubt i can tell. If u really infer tat SG-ian(the way u put it) have lack of humor thn it really shows how much u think before commenting. IM NOT SAYING U ARE A NO BRAINER TAT CANT THINK HOR! *srs*

ps teq, spam again.

This post has been edited by EzPeaceZ: Oct 19 2008, 04:35 PM

*Touches* Okay so let me talk, I agree that; well. Both rule sets are gay but if that's the way people wanna play then let them play it their way, I know we're trying to find a mod that is globalizable, but argue-ing / flame-ing each other about it / debating about it isn't going to help if it's done here. This must be taken up to the WCG managers or someone from IW.

We can keep going on and on about it here but it's not gonna help us reach out our ideas to the "Professionals". We can quibble on and on but we'll just keep going around the bush, my suggestion is if anyone has any way of contacting the professionals or whatnots, we should take the opportunity to put forth our case, Azeroth needs heroes, we must unite horde and alliance to make the ultimate ruleset!

If you live in Eversong Woods and you have a great idea for a new potion, the people over at Burning Steppes ain't going to know what this new potion is about, or even hear a whisper about it unless you reach out and throw it over there with Perk 2 : Baseball Arm.

... Okay that's getting stupid, but you get what I mean...



Edit : COD4 on the NDS really sucks : There are no perks and it's in a totally different universe, I want Gaz and Price back.

This post has been edited by snipaboy: Oct 19 2008, 05:05 PM

Okay.

I've played on ProMod and I've got several things to say. It didn't affect me at all seriously. No difference. The only thing i discovered was: the sniper felt weird and the fact it kept bouncing out again after I shot was annoying, but other than that I didn't feel any difference. Maybe I'm just immune to all the bells and whistles.

What I do have in favour of the entire PAM4 mod is this:

I like my perks. People complain about dead silence, claymores or whatever. Seriously, I've been playing this game for 11 months, if you haven't learnt how to play this game yet(countering these problems) then I'm sorry, you just haven't played enough. Yes, we all have lives. Yes we all need to work and sustain, our gaming habit/addiction/wayoflife. But seriously not everyone can put in the same amount of time as other people. The way I look at it, these perks give other people a chance to counter the time that someone has spent playing the game.

A number of people are of the impression that the body should be equal, which means that, no jugger, EC or any body attribute changing perk. Well, I'd say this, none of the players are equal either. Tequila is an exceptional player and I doubt even if any of the pansies were given a chance to train as long as him or under the same conditions would BE as GOOD as him.


Realism. It's game. but it attempts very hard to imitate real life. I believe that as many "attributes" of the game should be retained as much as possible.

I thought Tequila had something against PAM4 until I realised that maybe, we'll have a better chance bringing professionalism to Malaysia by adapting to "the rest of the world." Like someone said earlier, we outnumber the rest of the teams in the other countries by SELANGOR alone. =.=" why are we catering to them. WE ARE THE BIG BOYS in this fight. I'm fighting hand down for PAM4. And if I lose, then I'll play ProMod. But it'll always be my second choice unless a major change is created.

And actually after all that I just want to say,

Eh marvin, can you please not join the conversation, you've added nothing useful at ALL to any conversation really. You've stood up one tournament organiser. I actually asked the organiser to wait for you, and when we couldn't wait anymore, we started. Seriously, if you complain that people aren't "PRO" then at the very least, please don't do something that is the direct opposite of what professional conduct should be like. Just because we're not "PRO" doesn't mean we can't have the same rules and behavioural characteristics.

People like, crash, me, tequila and even the original FMJ fought to bring professional gaming to malaysia. We're trying to make sure that the undeserving bastards who don't give a shit about the community but want to whine about what is gay and fair have a chance to go PRO. Yes, PRO without the quotes. We can't do it for ourselves, so why not make sure my kid or yours has a chance next time.

And to you guys who obviously don't have anything useful to contribute, please go back to your stupid threads about ghost hunting/elephantherding/pinkflamingobreeding, we really don't need you here. =)


Cheers
Sanction

Cheers

You fail at sounding mature and intelligent, go back to your Phail90 please. Don't even touch Promod; as you would Phail90 again.

I've actually read through this and bolded out what I agree with.

I agree with Sanction, I've played this game for over 11 months too, and my Xfire can prove that, Haha. No srsly, it's not had to counter those problems (I know how bout I still die to these things anyway, but I don't whine that it's OP, I just say to myself; Okay that was a mistake, I'm going to try and void that next time) and it's not imba, "You just haven't played enough."

I would like to add again, Promod nosway is gay, I wouldn't mind playing ProMod professionally if there was sway + deepimpact and nongliding players.

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Added on October 19, 2008, 5:34 pmOne more thing.

This post has been edited by snipaboy: Oct 19 2008, 05:34 PM

omg HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH The foogray rat!! HAHAHAHA

Lolololol I saw what marvin said, and every time i think about people with no lives i think about the rat eater at blitzone sorry foo.

I used to be a freak CS1.6 player before I actually started playing COD4 Multiplayer. I had a team, we joined Lan Parties, Tournaments, WCG, WGT, stuff like that. Even after my team split, I was continue playing CS...however it was getting really really boring after playing for 7-8 years..im tired of it. im sick of it...till one day my bro told me that COD4 was the best multiplayer game he had ever played. So I tried, indeed, IMO, COD4 was much more entertaining compared to CS. With all the perks, weapons of choice, attachment and leveling up, geeze how often to you get games like this. So I left CS for COD4.

Now some of you are planning to change COD4 in somewhat similar to CS. Please don't. I think Strayfa what you mentioned about being a pro by following what other countries are doing is just plain wrong. Don't you realize that's one of the reason why our Malaysia country is always not 1step, not 2step, not 3step but 10step behind of others. That's because there are many Malaysians such as yourself(pls don't be offended) are constantly using the two F word. "Follow and F***". "Follow and F***". What makes you think that other country teams are any better than the ones in Malaysia. Have they ever had match against each other? No. If your talking about CS then yes I agreed, the teams in other countries are better than ours. But COD4 is new, unlike CS, who knows maybe if team like ESP,SWL,FFF,XEF and so on have a match with teams from other country, they might just pawn them straight down to the gutter. Have you ever thought of that? Not necessarily everything from other country are always better than us. COD4 is dying in the US and Europe. Read gotfrag.com forums and you'll know. As for me im a new player, im trying my best to adapt and live with the community. Im totally happy with the rules they set for the Blitzone tourney. Now im not a fan boy of ESP nor im trying to support everything they are saying to go against anyone here. Im just a normal player like everyone else expressing myself's opinion.

Peace out everyone. \m/>_<\m/

P.S : Remember its a game, not real life, who gives a shit if someone can run and makes no sound. ITS A GAME DAMN IT!

This post has been edited by CherryD: Oct 19 2008, 05:52 PM

Not necessarily... I might sound like a hypocrite here but I just thought about it, some people here are just wanting to change to ProMod so we can go pro and pwn other teams. It might be following but that seems to be the only way that these people see. What the other half of the thread posters are doing are trying to improve pam4.1 so that we can present our ideas to the global gaming community.

You can't really say that Malaysians are like that in general, we're on our way to making the best rule-set there is, so we're basically a few steps ahead this time

Edit : When I say WE, I'm not speaking for SWL / ESP / N|X or 1MB4 or whatever, I'm saying as all of us as a gaming community. Every single person that posts in this thread, who knows, ProMod might have some things we can implement in PAM4 (except bloody shiny textures and nosway and that bloody gliding thing)

This post has been edited by snipaboy: Oct 19 2008, 05:56 PM

Why is it so important to pawn other teams? what are you guys trying to get fame or something? Why is it in such a hurry that you want to go and pawn other teams? to prove what? your a pro?....i wouldn't agreed with that. What i would agreed is what other half of the thread posters are trying to do is to improve pam4.1. i would support them 100%. Thats what i have been trying to say, its time to lead instead of following by presenting our ideas to the global gaming community. By the way there is no point changing to ProMod if the reason is because you wanna pawn other country teams coz there wouldn't be much team left alive in Europe or America.

And yes, from the Call Of Duty 4 point of view, we are actually few steps ahead of them. I wasn't talking about COD4 when i mentioned we are always behind of others. I was talking about 'you should know what'.



P.S : Thanks Kura for the tips on Broadcast, i've been using the method u taught me and constantly pawning ppl from there. haha.

This post has been edited by CherryD: Oct 19 2008, 06:10 PM

Finally.. Posts that we can read.. Thank you guys..

Edit - Whoops except the one right before I posted... *clicks report*

This post has been edited by t3quila: Oct 19 2008, 06:29 PM

Lol misunderstanding sorry. And no problem haha, those spots get old after awhile though and 95% of the walls in the TV station are spammable (as proven by falk + rpd). Just experiment like I did @_@ best to do it with a partner so he can tell you where to aim.

You attacked first, we're just defending. And what problem do you have with our dreams of becoming pro gamers? Does it affect you if we DO become pro gamers?

Btw, who clicked the report button before I could ._. You need to be flocked and burned.

Back to Topic
I didn't really mean pwn other teams when I said switch to ProMod, I mean, people might wanna go Pro, so the only way they see (and probably a shortcut way too) is to follow ProMod :\

I agree whole-heartedly on not following though, COD4-Community "Malaysia" boleh! It's time to put on yer daddy's shoes and buck up We might even be the next manager / producer / president / vice president / chairman of WCG Global

... Actually I wouldn't mind being PA for WCG, free stuff!

That's why you can't be successful in competitive play if you take the game as JUST a game. If you intend to go PRO, the game is your LIFE.

Gaming is all about the winning. Life is full of competitiveness. Everyone wants to be at the top. Don't you?

What I'm proposing is not the pros and cons of both mods, but more of a generalization of rulesets.

And what do you mean by we're always behind because we follow other countries? I'm sorry but maybe you could rephrase it.

The only e-Sport which Malaysia is recognized for is DotA. Kingsurf has done a great job into bringing us international fame. Before them, Malaysia was unknown in the gaming scene.

But what you're saying is that we don't have to listen and follow other countries because Malaysia is strong enough to support COD4 alone. If you say we're America, or another strong and influential country, I don't think it would be a problem. But we're barely known in the international scene, we cannot do it just yet.

Online tournaments like SKOTH are the only way for Malaysia to breakthrough the Asian COD scene at the moment. Not even international.

Who is going to support and sponsor the Malaysian COD scene if we're barely known internationally?

What I'm suggesting is if we're not willing to switch to the international rulesets, we should at least generalize the rules in Asia by discussing with their committee so we can have more online and LAN tournaments together. Not 2 separate rulesets.

Your thoughts ?

*What I'm suggesting is if we're not willing to switch to the international rulesets, we should at least generalize the rules in Asia by discussing with their committee so we can have more online and LAN tournaments together. Not 2 separate rulesets.*

Ok sounds good. Lets have a meeting regarding COD4 ASIA RULES =D. We could get voice outs from Indon, SG, THE OTHER ASIAN COUNTRIES THAT PLAY COD4 =P and Malaysia. Hopefully WE ALL(ASIA) can finalize a rule set that everybody agrees on. hmmmm its just a suggestion =P. Plus ASIA IS STILL THE BIGGEST DAMN CONTINENT THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEEEEEEN lol.
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This post has been edited by [ESP].quack: Oct 19 2008, 07:39 PM

Yeah. That way we can slowly change and make the rules in EU and NA follow ours as well. All we need is more support.

Ok sounds good. Lets have a meeting regarding COD4 ASIA RULES =D. We could get voice outs from Indon, SG, THE OTHER ASIAN COUNTRIES THAT PLAY COD4 =P and Malaysia. Hopefully WE ALL(ASIA) can finalize a rule set that everybody agrees on. hmmmm its just a suggestion =P. Plus ASIA IS STILL THE BIGGEST DAMN CONTINENT THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEEEEEEN lol.



This post has been edited by [ESP].quack: Oct 19 2008, 07:39 PM

Lets meet in JB!!!!

Quack please take this as a joke: Yeah the biggest damn continent the world has ever seen, oh do tell me if you get to the center of the earth and discover random dinosaurs and pokemon or whatever random stuff they have down there.

This post has been edited by t3quila: Oct 19 2008, 07:55 PM

Teqqy-Weqqy : Noh, more people in Selangor, looks like you have to crawl up here again, lol@u.

Quack : O________________o got problem, anyone here speak fluent Chinese? (If you're planning on taking over asia, China is a freakin big part of it) Lolz.

Also, this post will make FT5 people cry as they play ProMod like drug addicts to drugs @_@.

I.
Hate.
Reading!
Could.
Everyone.
Stop.
Replying.
Every.
2.
Seconds?
For those who have yet to play ProMod, only seen or heard it, TRY IT. Again, I don't care what mod we play, as long as its fun.

JB? oh ok i have just that one ....word........................LAN JIAUUUUUUUU hahahahhahha lol hehe