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Angel of Deth
post Oct 18 2008, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(gac @ Oct 18 2008, 11:48 PM)
in laymen terms.... if your sound card could not produce 192Khz, what do u expect??  brows.gif  btw, what sound card r u using?

then u should try SRC....  icon_idea.gif
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Is that so? btw if my sound card not support 192Khz playback, the song will stutter just like when i using SRC with 192Khz sample rate..but with SSRC the song play just
fine on 192Khz but less clarity than the original 44.1Khz and 48Khz..I think oversampling does not produce any good. What do u think?

FYI i only use onboard cheap AL888...sound card is very expensive you know smile.gif
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post Oct 19 2008, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(gac @ Oct 18 2008, 11:48 PM)
in laymen terms.... if your sound card could not produce 192Khz, what do u expect??  brows.gif  btw, what sound card r u using?

then u should try SRC....  icon_idea.gif
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The suspense is killing me. Now everyone of you, bring out your sampling plugin, so that I can load them all into foobar and drive myself crazy. rclxub.gif doh.gif
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post Oct 19 2008, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Oct 18 2008, 11:59 PM)
Is that so? btw if my sound card not support 192Khz playback, the song will stutter just like when i using SRC with 192Khz sample rate..but with SSRC the song play just
fine on 192Khz but less clarity than the original 44.1Khz and 48Khz..I think oversampling does not produce any good. What do u think?

FYI i only use onboard cheap AL888...sound card is very expensive you know smile.gif
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over-sampling eating up your resources and produce less ... what for? right? icon_idea.gif

for foobar2k, i only stick to 96khz.... despite my sound card can support 24bit/192khz in stereo mode.... brows.gif
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post Oct 19 2008, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(gac @ Oct 19 2008, 12:12 AM)
over-sampling eating up your resources and produce less ... what for? right? icon_idea.gif

for foobar2k, i only stick to 96khz.... despite my sound card can support 24bit/192khz in stereo mode.... brows.gif
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Can you tell the difference between 48khz and 96khz?? Is it have more clarity?
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post Oct 19 2008, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Oct 19 2008, 12:14 AM)
Can you tell the difference between 48khz and 96khz?? Is it have more clarity?
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again it always depends on your hardware .... in my case, yes it is more clarity, projection, detailing, etc
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post Oct 19 2008, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(gac @ Oct 19 2008, 12:18 AM)
again it always depends on your hardware .... in my case, yes it is more clarity, projection, detailing, etc
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What is current price for your X-Fi?? Does onboard AL888 really can produce 24bit/192Khz sample rate????
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post Oct 19 2008, 12:32 AM

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i bought it at RM900. i m not sure about realtek al888... sorry

but no point buying x-fi, maybe u could try out ASUS XONAR and there is a new sc coming up....
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post Oct 19 2008, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(gac @ Oct 19 2008, 12:32 AM)
i bought it at RM900. i m not sure about realtek al888... sorry

but no point buying x-fi, maybe u could try out ASUS XONAR and there is a new sc coming up....
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Is it good for music??Actually i dont like my foobar with many DSP plugin coz i think they all fake...the original and good quality sound only produced by the soundcard, not the audio enhancer or plug-in.
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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Oct 19 2008, 01:07 AM)
Is it good for music??Actually i dont like my foobar with many DSP plugin coz i think they all fake...the original and good quality sound only produced by the soundcard, not the audio enhancer or plug-in.
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X-fi mainly design for gamers? but i do enjoy listening to all my audiophile CDs with WMP..... its fantastic!!! rclxm9.gif those plugs-in are to "colour" your music which is not "real" whistling.gif


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post Oct 19 2008, 05:34 AM

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actually music should stick with 44.1khz since the source is 44.1..
44.1, 48, 192 do hv different projection of sound in terms of clarity but not very noticeable..

i do believe that get as original as possible is what audiophiles seek for..
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QUOTE(jerren @ Oct 19 2008, 05:34 AM)
actually music should stick with 44.1khz since the source is 44.1..
44.1, 48, 192 do hv different projection of sound in terms of clarity but not very noticeable..

i do believe that get as original as possible is what audiophiles seek for..
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But to do that you must have high end speaker and sound card...for people who can't afford the cost, they just install enhancer or plug-in..
Thats like Toyota AE86 install a turbo to compete with GTR34.
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the SSRC package got two selection one is normal the other is SSE2 which one is better?

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QUOTE(xianyao @ Oct 19 2008, 09:10 AM)
@ Angel of Deth

the SSRC package got two selection one is normal the other is SSE2 which one is better?

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If you using new processor, mostly no problem with the SSE2..Normal is 'safe-mode'..They just same smile.gif
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QUOTE(fariz @ Oct 19 2008, 06:11 AM)
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post Oct 19 2008, 05:06 PM

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What is the best sound card for music?
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I tried using the resampler and set it at 96khz from normal 44khz, then I notice the sound bit different like... sounds bigger? That's what I heard


The difference is more noticeable with high bit rate (320kbps) and lossless songs, while not so obvious on low bit rate's (192kbps and below)



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QUOTE(Dry Pillow @ Oct 19 2008, 08:11 PM)
I tried using the resampler and set it at 96khz from normal 44khz, then I notice the sound bit different like... sounds bigger? That's what I heard
The difference is more noticeable with high bit rate (320kbps) and lossless songs, while not so obvious on low bit rate's (192kbps and below)
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What resampler did you use?
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post Oct 19 2008, 09:12 PM

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connection.

usb-> spdif to zero dac. ZERO DAC supports upto 192kHz.


I also tried all kinds of resampling, 96,192, 48,44.1...

I cant tell the difference and in fact, I found the music more natural by disabling the resampling.

my question is USB is limited by 44.1/48kHz right. so by setting higher also it will output 44.1 to my spdif right.

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