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post Oct 16 2008, 08:53 AM

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For me, using my headphone wif my amp and DAC, the fb2k is much more better comparing to WMP11. But it is my own opinion, u shud trust ur ear and use which u think is better. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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p/s: this thread should be continuing...


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post Oct 16 2008, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(gac @ Oct 16 2008, 02:45 AM)
Human tester tongue.gif = Myself, my wife, my buddy + GF, my 7 yrs old son & my 6 yrs old daugther....


One of these days, switch over to foobar2000 without them knowing, ask them what they think of WMP11 ....... I know I know..... but just for the fun of it, and they will have their revenge. rclxm9.gif

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post Oct 16 2008, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(BCurve @ Oct 16 2008, 09:39 AM)
One of these days, switch over to foobar2000 without them knowing, ask them what they think of WMP11 ....... I know I know..... but just for the fun of it, and they will have their revenge.  rclxm9.gif
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during my testing.... i tested both players without them knowing which is which.... my children does even know what is WMP11 or foobar2k shakehead.gif

btw what is the ASIO buffer latency? 80ms is ok?

how about buffer lenght???


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post Oct 16 2008, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(gac @ Oct 16 2008, 11:35 AM)
during my testing.... i tested both players without them knowing which is which.... my children does even know what is WMP11 or foobar2k  shakehead.gif

btw what is the ASIO buffer latency? 80ms is ok?

how about buffer lenght???
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http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=28
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post Oct 16 2008, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(gac @ Oct 16 2008, 02:45 AM)
- One thing i learned, the speakers placement is significantly IMPORTANT whether is stereo or 5.1s. (lately, i did come across a few articles on speaker placement. Well, it is not ultimate but it does ENHANCE in a way  cool2.gif

Cheers!!!

p/s: this thread should be continuing...
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How do you position your Z5500? I am a Z5500 user too smile.gif Hopefully can have some pics.

I have been searching to no avail, what is the best way to position speakers nearfield.

Would using Secret Rabbit Code be considered Colouring the music?

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post Oct 16 2008, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(dlyz @ Oct 16 2008, 01:10 PM)
How do you position your Z5500? I am a Z5500 user too smile.gif Hopefully can have some pics.

I have been searching to no avail, what is the best way to position speakers nearfield.

Would using Secret Rabbit Code be considered Colouring the music?
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SRC is not consider a "colouring" device. SRC is a re-sampler. i.e. resampler from 44.1KHz to 96KHz..... etc

I presume stuff like SRS, 3FX, CMSS, equalizer, etc are "colouring" agents


There are many philosphies & theories... hard to say. but u cant try this

My speaker placement:

1) LF, RF & CF try to put it 3 feet away from the listening point. LF & RF 4ft away from each other. all MUST be "ear" level
2) All front speakers should be 1 feet away from your wall. (nearer u will get heavier bass/LFE)
3) Rear speaker must be at the back of course. but try to put it 3 feet up of your listening point/ear level.
4) Placement of subwoofer is important & complex...... but mine on the left side and leaving 1 feet gap between the wall & sub

try this: -------

1) www.polkaudio.com/education/article.php?id=20www.polkaudio.com/education/article.php?id=20
2) www.atlantictechnology.com/default.asp?IsDev=False&NodeId=108 www.atlantictechnology.com/default.asp?IsDev=False&NodeId=108

u need to try every position possible in order to get the best "point"

one thing, if u would to visit any hi-fi shop as u might realized that none of those speakers are place close to the wall. right? wink.gif

i m still in the learning stage now..... sweat.gif

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post Oct 16 2008, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(fariz @ Oct 15 2008, 08:19 PM)
you're using vista, better use wasapi output

http://www.foobar2000.org/components/index.html
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I tried using WASAPI. The problem is that it mutes any other sounds except the music, which is sometimes inconvenient. I tried ASIO and KS but they both don't work on my laptop. The option to select KS doesn't appear in the Output Device column. For ASIO, I get an error when I try to press the Add button. Any ideas? Thanks.
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QUOTE(tps18489 @ Oct 16 2008, 03:26 PM)
I tried using WASAPI. The problem is that it mutes any other sounds except the music, which is sometimes inconvenient. I tried ASIO and KS but they both don't work on my laptop. The option to select KS doesn't appear in the Output Device column. For ASIO, I get an error when I try to press the Add button. Any ideas? Thanks.
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What OS r u using? WASAPI that is the point....

I m not sure about the KS issues. but maybe u paste wrongly to a different folders. it should be C:\Program Files\foobar2000\components

But for the ASIO, u need a sound card which support ASIO. U wont able to use it.

For non ASIO supprted SC, use KS only and should try out Secret Rabbit Code (SRC).

cheers!!!
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post Oct 16 2008, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(gac @ Oct 16 2008, 04:16 PM)
What OS r u using? WASAPI that is the point.... 

I m not sure about the KS issues. but maybe u paste wrongly to a different folders. it should be C:\Program Files\foobar2000\components

But for the ASIO, u need a sound card which support ASIO. U wont able to use it.

For non ASIO supprted SC, use KS only and should try out Secret Rabbit Code (SRC).

cheers!!!
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I'm using Windows Vista. WASAPI is good due to the fact it bypasses the Windows mixer. As many have said, Windows Vista sound system has some problems which causes music to sometimes jerk during playback. I'm facing this problem. Using WASAPI solves the problem and I'm very happy about it. The only thing I don't like is that it mutes all other sounds. So I can't hear any alerts during playback.

I posted the dll file in the directory you mentioned. But I just don't see it there. Not sure why too. Maybe my soundcard doesn't support it or something.

Okay. I'll try it. I guess my soundcard doesn't support ASIO. Thanks for the information. smile.gif
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post Oct 16 2008, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(tps18489 @ Oct 16 2008, 06:05 PM)
I'm using Windows Vista. WASAPI is good due to the fact it bypasses the Windows mixer. As many have said, Windows Vista sound system has some problems which causes music to sometimes jerk during playback. I'm facing this problem. Using WASAPI solves the problem and I'm very happy about it. The only thing I don't like is that it mutes all other sounds. So I can't hear any alerts during playback.

I posted the dll file in the directory you mentioned. But I just don't see it there. Not sure why too. Maybe my soundcard doesn't support it or something.

Okay. I'll try it. I guess my soundcard doesn't support ASIO. Thanks for the information. smile.gif
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maybe u should try updating your SC driver.....
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QUOTE(tps18489 @ Oct 16 2008, 06:05 PM)
I'm using Windows Vista. WASAPI is good due to the fact it bypasses the Windows mixer. As many have said, Windows Vista sound system has some problems which causes music to sometimes jerk during playback. I'm facing this problem. Using WASAPI solves the problem and I'm very happy about it. The only thing I don't like is that it mutes all other sounds. So I can't hear any alerts during playback.

I posted the dll file in the directory you mentioned. But I just don't see it there. Not sure why too. Maybe my soundcard doesn't support it or something.

Okay. I'll try it. I guess my soundcard doesn't support ASIO. Thanks for the information. smile.gif
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Maybe www.asio4all.com can solve?
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post Oct 16 2008, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(tps18489 @ Oct 16 2008, 06:05 PM)
I'm using Windows Vista. WASAPI is good due to the fact it bypasses the Windows mixer. As many have said, Windows Vista sound system has some problems which causes music to sometimes jerk during playback. I'm facing this problem. Using WASAPI solves the problem and I'm very happy about it. The only thing I don't like is that it mutes all other sounds. So I can't hear any alerts during playback.

I posted the dll file in the directory you mentioned. But I just don't see it there. Not sure why too. Maybe my soundcard doesn't support it or something.

Okay. I'll try it. I guess my soundcard doesn't support ASIO. Thanks for the information. smile.gif
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The ASIO barang might show up as USB-something in the Output Device column, or as something else that wasn't there before. Before you go any further, do you undertstand what I am trying to say? If there is something there, then select that something and close the window. Then press play, got sound or not?
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Yeah, I do understand. I looked at the Output Device column. It only contains those DS ones. Nothing that mentions USB. And I tried to click the Add button in the ASIO and the error message given was "No ASIO drivers found".

Anyway, thanks for your reply. smile.gif

DEVICLOT: I hope to use ASIO natively on foobar2000. smile.gif

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QUOTE(tps18489 @ Oct 16 2008, 07:58 PM)
Yeah, I do understand. I looked at the Output Device column. It only contains those DS ones. Nothing that mentions USB. And I tried to click the Add button in the ASIO and the error message given was "No ASIO drivers found".

Anyway, thanks for your reply. smile.gif

DEVICLOT: I hope to use ASIO natively on foobar2000. smile.gif
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Let me take one last shot at this. What is the file name of the ASIO thingy in the component directory?

Did you plug in the USB device you want the output from your computer to go to? Must plug in okay, otherwise nothing will show up in the selection column.

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can anyone show some pictures..... its better illustration right?
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post Oct 16 2008, 10:03 PM

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Been trying foobar for few times but I can't really differentiate the SQ compare with TTPlayer. biggrin.gif

Probably my ears not good enough or just is my personal preferences.
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QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Oct 16 2008, 10:03 PM)
Been trying foobar for few times but I can't really differentiate the SQ compare with TTPlayer. biggrin.gif

Probably my ears not good enough or just is my personal preferences.
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Juz trust ur ear, use which plyer and settings u think is de best...
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all this are rather self preferences.... u like it u have it, dont like dont use it..... simple

my choice WMP11... rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(gac @ Oct 16 2008, 09:09 PM)
can anyone show some pictures..... its better illustration right?
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Of course, allow me to refer you to post #26 on page 2 of this thread. smile.gif

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QUOTE(BCurve @ Oct 17 2008, 12:24 AM)
Of course, allow me to refer you to post #26 on page 2 of this thread.  smile.gif
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well well..... u got me.

but i mean the problems of those faced NOT mine.... cry.gif


btw... what is the Impulse response convolver for? in layman term please



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