hi guys...

jus in case is relevant, i m using z5500 + x-fi platinum fatality champion series

note: i only listen to CDs and NO other formats even the losses one (FLAC, TTA, Monkeys Audio) not to mentioned the lossy types.

currently, does enjoy the WMP11 sound quality. And i do aware as some said the foobar2k + additional plugin is better, i wondering.

i download the lastest version of foobar2k with the additional 3rd party plugin, as follows: -

1) kernel streaming
2) Asio
3) DSP Delta
4) Secret Rabbit Code
5) Advance Control

Is the above, sufficient for GOOD AUDIO QUALITY? i do presume the ASIO plugin is sufficient right?

Thanking u in advance

cheers!!!

This post has been edited by gac: Oct 15 2008, 04:51 AM

nothing wrong... but i only listen to CDs.

huh..... just wanna compare both sound quality.

i tried foobar2k without plugins is sucks!!

ok.... i will try both plugin...

ok or not

what is the use of SRC???

i m currently using optical as output.

so is there any different optical & coxial cable???

This post has been edited by gac: Oct 15 2008, 03:28 PM

huh resources hungry monster... i always thought foobar2k is lesser than WMP

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Added on October 15, 2008, 6:31 pmi like ur guide...... i oledi bookmark it long2 time ago. good job but maybe u need to update it


just another retarded question. installing 2 players wont effect my WMP11 right?

This post has been edited by gac: Oct 15 2008, 06:40 PM

thanks... wondering why there is no such thread before..... life on!!!

just tried out the foobar2k.... just wanna check my setting is ok


Despite i installed the ASIODLL but it reflected CREATIVE ASIO. Anything wrong?

Why it only show 16bit?



More than 20 mapping to done??!! Anything Wrong??? but i only listen to stereo so can i stick to 2 mappings???



Despite i set to 96000KHz on the resampling rate but it appears only 44.1?? Why huh??




thanks Sifu

This post has been edited by gac: Oct 15 2008, 08:44 PM

i m still debating on the quality for WMP & foobar2k...... hard to differentiate. i keep on repeatedly listening to one song.

Is WMP11 producing 24bit output or even resampling???..... i wanted to see what WMP11 can do.... the point here is both WMP & foobar2k quality is almost matching.

**** I bought some good CDs 24bit 192Khz remastering one.... but why foobar2k only indicating it is a 44.1khz format???? this is suck!


but one thing i admit....foobar2k look nicer & consume lesser memory, 200% different at least

This post has been edited by gac: Oct 15 2008, 10:03 PM

omg.....

but infact those CDs sound better.... comparatively to some local ones.... is there anything to do with the recording???

so to cut it short in a layman term would be....

CDs is encoded to 16bits 44.1Khz from a 24bit 192Khz source. thus, in order to "enjoyed" the extra bits, thats why resampling comes in..... like the one in foobar2k or any other players.

can this be it???

do u think mine can do it? ...... X-fi Platinum Fatality Champion Series + Z5500 + DVD-RW (as player)

After much try & error, install, uninstall & such efforts testing, keep on testing, tweaking for hours .... blah..... just ensure that i m NOT bias.

Testing rigs = MY Gear (X-Fi Platinum Champion Series + Logitech z5500)
Listening Test = compare to my buddy's hifi set. (Primare CD-31 + Primare 1-30 Intg. Amp + Pro Ac Studio 140 Speakers)

Human tester = Myself, my wife, my buddy + GF, my 7 yrs old son & my 6 yrs old daugther....
Venue: my entertainment room (12' x 23')

CD tested: -

1) Best Audiophile Voices Selections
2) Lee Lessack, in good companion
3) Aiza, Open Arms
4) AURACLE, LESIEM
5) Musik Wie Von Einem Anderen Stern
6) Signature Audiophile Instrumentals
7) Acaustic Audiophile Voices

my conclusion is WMP11 vs foobar2k.... ultimately, WMP11 is the winner!!!

Music Clarity - WMP11
Instrument Detailing - WMP11
Voice/Vocal Projection - WMP11
Originality? - WMP11
Music Low Volume - WMP11
Music High Volume - WMP11
Bass - WMP11
User interface - WMP11 (b'coz WMP11 nothing to set!)
Player Outlook/Visual - foobar2k (5-star!!!)
Music Management - foobar2k (5-star!!!)


So i will stick back to WMP11... but again, its all depend on "individual ears". Or perhaps different combination of hardware & software produced different result (i strongly believe so)

NOTE: well i m not degrading foobar2k or any other players, this is purely my view.

- One thing i learned, the speakers placement is significantly IMPORTANT whether is stereo or 5.1s. (lately, i did come across a few articles on speaker placement. Well, it is not ultimate but it does ENHANCE in a way

Cheers!!!

p/s: this thread should be continuing...

This post has been edited by gac: Oct 16 2008, 03:02 AM

during my testing.... i tested both players without them knowing which is which.... my children does even know what is WMP11 or foobar2k

btw what is the ASIO buffer latency? 80ms is ok?

how about buffer lenght???


This post has been edited by gac: Oct 16 2008, 11:50 AM

SRC is not consider a "colouring" device. SRC is a re-sampler. i.e. resampler from 44.1KHz to 96KHz..... etc

I presume stuff like SRS, 3FX, CMSS, equalizer, etc are "colouring" agents


There are many philosphies & theories... hard to say. but u cant try this

My speaker placement:

1) LF, RF & CF try to put it 3 feet away from the listening point. LF & RF 4ft away from each other. all MUST be "ear" level
2) All front speakers should be 1 feet away from your wall. (nearer u will get heavier bass/LFE)
3) Rear speaker must be at the back of course. but try to put it 3 feet up of your listening point/ear level.
4) Placement of subwoofer is important & complex...... but mine on the left side and leaving 1 feet gap between the wall & sub

try this: -------

1) www.polkaudio.com/education/article.php?id=20www.polkaudio.com/education/article.php?id=20
2) www.atlantictechnology.com/default.asp?IsDev=False&NodeId=108 www.atlantictechnology.com/default.asp?IsDev=False&NodeId=108

u need to try every position possible in order to get the best "point"

one thing, if u would to visit any hi-fi shop as u might realized that none of those speakers are place close to the wall. right?

i m still in the learning stage now.....

This post has been edited by gac: Oct 16 2008, 02:27 PM

What OS r u using? WASAPI that is the point....

I m not sure about the KS issues. but maybe u paste wrongly to a different folders. it should be C:\Program Files\foobar2000\components

But for the ASIO, u need a sound card which support ASIO. U wont able to use it.

For non ASIO supprted SC, use KS only and should try out Secret Rabbit Code (SRC).

cheers!!!

maybe u should try updating your SC driver.....

can anyone show some pictures..... its better illustration right?