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chicaman
post Apr 19 2009, 10:14 PM

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I am using Wasapi for vista. The SQ is better and louder but then when I am playing song with foobar, I cant play movie or streaming youtube with no sound :S
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post Apr 19 2009, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Apr 19 2009, 10:14 PM)
I am using Wasapi for vista. The SQ is better and louder but then when I am playing song with foobar, I cant play movie or streaming youtube with no sound :S
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WASAPI guarenteed muted other playback rather than ASIO or KS (side-effect), it's normal...
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if I use ASIO for Foobar, then it will have problem detecting my earphone or line out to speaker. Thats why have to use WASAPI, well that isnt a big problem for me and I am very satisfied iwth WASAPI tongue.gif
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post Apr 20 2009, 09:22 AM

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guys..
got ppl saying sawstudio bttr than foobar
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post Apr 20 2009, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Paca @ Apr 20 2009, 09:22 AM)
guys..
got ppl saying sawstudio bttr than foobar
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i thought sawstudio more into production and editing, foobar2k of course an audio player
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post Apr 22 2009, 10:40 PM

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all player are the same....

QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Apr 20 2009, 05:11 PM)
i thought sawstudio more into production and editing, foobar2k of course an audio player
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post Apr 22 2009, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(gac @ Apr 22 2009, 10:40 PM)
all player are the same....
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In term of SQ yes. but the features and customization absolutely not
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post Apr 24 2009, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Apr 22 2009, 10:58 PM)
In term of SQ yes. but the features and customization absolutely not
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agreed... thats why i use foobar2k smile.gif now.
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post Apr 24 2009, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(gac @ Jan 26 2009, 03:30 AM)
if ur sc cant support ASIO, use it. otherwise WASAPI is u r running VISTA. i dont used any plug ins like DSP, etc. originality is rest assure. smile.gif
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I dont agree with the DSP part, u can use this DSP called SRC Resampler. (It is the best resampler for foobar and the best so far i have known for computers)

The usage for this DSP is quite simple, it is used for sound card that do HARDWARE RESAMPLING. For example, Creative Audigy (1) Platinum, sound blaster series and Audigy 2 if i have not mistaken.

Why must the soundcard do resampling? because the sound processor only support processing at 48000hz for those few cards, dont ask me why, ask the company that made it.

The problem with Hardware Resample is that, the quality of the resampling on those cards are done by a low quality processor chip on the soundcard, it will cause distortion on the bass, poor vocal clarity/real-ness and "harsh" treble.

Audio from computer (44100Hz) >>> Hardware Resampler to 48000Hz >>> Sound Processor >>> output

IF u use SRC Resampler, it will bypass the low quality hardware resampler, so...

Audio from computer with SRC enabled (48000Hz) >>> Sound Processor >>> output

see? no nid for the hardware resampling to 48000, as it is already converter on your computer and the sound processor can processor it directly as it already is 48000hz.

*different cards have different resamplers, for example, X-FI's drivers are streamlined and there is no need for resampling because the quality of resampling on the card is TIP TOP. so when u activate SRC on those cards, it wont show any different, as creative has fixed the issue of poor harware resampling. Other sound card brands i dont know, experiment to find out loh ; ) but i'm sure this will work for C-media sound cards, Creative Sound Blaster, Audigy 1,2,4. which have a stupid low quality resample chip ==

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QUOTE(gac @ Apr 24 2009, 02:09 AM)
agreed... thats why i use foobar2k smile.gif now.
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If i use WASAPI i don't need to disable Windows Sound Scheme like ASIO4ALL right?
Because WASAPI guaranteed muted other sound, rather than ASIO4ALL it is side-effect
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post Apr 25 2009, 11:58 AM

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can i request foo_masstagger version 1.7.1 if anyone actually have achieved it

I need it as the new masstagger aint displaying filename which make renaming from file name difficult.

btw anyone know do the playlist artwork works? it used to display correctly all my artwork until i update it to the newest version, now it wont work > <

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post Apr 25 2009, 03:24 PM

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Hmm I would like to ask something...
I recently added a lot of japanese songs copied from my friend's pc, and the song titles,artists and album tagging cannot be displayed well in my foobar2000. I set my computer system language and system locale to japanese already, and my windows explorer and itunes can display the japanese words well.

however foobar cannot! Still displaying unrecognized characters although i re-imported the library. I selected Arial unicode MS also cannot display... Anyone can help?

Like this:
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post Apr 25 2009, 03:36 PM

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you have make it into Unicode which i guess your friend not putting them correctly.

well there is converter, but not very reliable for Japanese names
since your filename consist of title, singer and album i guess you can rename them using script (if they are standardise) or the hardway (manually)

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Unicode is the way to go, be it Chinese, Korean, Japanese, or any language, it will all works
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 25 2009, 03:36 PM)
you have make it into Unicode which i guess your friend not putting them correctly.

well there is converter, but not very reliable for Japanese names
since your filename consist of title, singer and album i guess you can rename them using script (if they are standardise) or the hardway (manually)
Unicode is the way to go, be it Chinese, Korean, Japanese, or any language, it will all works
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But my windows explorer and itunes can display 100% correctly, only foobar cannot... Sweat... Used all unicode but cant ==
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 25 2009, 03:36 PM)
you have make it into Unicode which i guess your friend not putting them correctly.

well there is converter, but not very reliable for Japanese names
since your filename consist of title, singer and album i guess you can rename them using script (if they are standardise) or the hardway (manually)

user posted image
Unicode is the way to go, be it Chinese, Korean, Japanese, or any language, it will all works
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OMG!!
so cool looking..
can u giv me the code to do that to my default looking foobar pls?? sweat.gif sweat.gif
n also the instructions. brows.gif
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post Apr 26 2009, 11:46 AM

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there is a link in my blog, it's not mine, my setting is much uglier and simple.

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post Apr 26 2009, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 26 2009, 11:46 AM)
there is a link in my blog, it's not mine, my setting is much uglier and simple.
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What's the link to your blog?


Added on April 26, 2009, 12:03 pm
QUOTE(gac @ Apr 24 2009, 02:09 AM)
agreed... thats why i use foobar2k smile.gif now.
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Good to hear that, i remember your last year post 90% on WMP11 side.


Added on April 26, 2009, 12:10 pmIs there any point to upsampling 44.1Hz audio to 48Hz?

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post Apr 26 2009, 11:28 PM

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no need to upsampling lah.... original is original... smile.gif
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post Apr 26 2009, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(gac @ Apr 26 2009, 11:28 PM)
no need to upsampling lah.... original is original... smile.gif
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how do i set sampling rate in foobar? i can't see in the preferences and the only way i can set the sampling rate through the Realtek control panel in shared mode, windows vista. and i don't understand much about vista sound architecture. What is shared mode, is it affect my foobar?
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post Apr 26 2009, 11:49 PM

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The reason why some resample to 48kHz because their cards (usually old AC97 based codec and Audigy series cards, which resamples everything to 48kHz) have bad resampling algorithms that create intermodulation distortion that even software can do it better, so they resamples the source first before the DSP itself do it.

About resampling in foobar, there is resampler in DSP Manager, but I don't know how it done in Vista as I never ever use Vista

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