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nokia2003
post Oct 5 2008, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(jakesean @ Oct 5 2008, 01:19 AM)
lets face it.. no offence but your sarcacity truely reflects how most malaysians react to criticism.. some may agree, some may not..

people tend not to see their mistakes when they are in it.. but hopefully sooner or later, they'll realise..

for those who call themselves iphone guru's, (i'm no where near pointing at specific people), u should be ashamed at yourself for not helping out those who seeks help.. if this statement offends you, meaning you are one of them..

i admit, i now feel ashamed previously when someone asked for help, i ignored when i could have helped..
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you will perhaps be surprised that in real life i'm always open to criticisms and would have preferred receiving feed backs from my peers. however, if you would like to think that is how a typical malaysian react to criticism, that's fine by me.



but before you go all out angelic in this inconsiderate malaysian forum and before we discuss about snubbing newbies, how about discussing the core of this matter; their mentality of expecting answers to be laid out in front of them, served on a silver platter with smiles and rainbows? if you want such services, then pay!


you don't go up to your lecturer, and tell him/her that you cannot do the work because the research confuses the heck out of you (when the answers all probably out in the open for you to read) even though it is prerogative for you to obtain a degree. the lecturer/tutor is there to guide you and i'm pretty if you have done your fair bit of research and surely he/she will be glad to point you to the correct direction if you are still confused. therefore this is not just a malaysian mentality.


anyway, i'm not gonna preach much but i do not deny that i would like to work under or for you in the future (if you are willing to hire me) because i do know that i can jump to you straight for help without doing anything first and still will not be yelled at. how great is that?





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post Oct 5 2008, 01:42 AM

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yes, i agree with what you're trying to say..

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but at least we can try to educate them with some posting to ask them to Search and Read first.


i agree with this too.. a little of this once in a while is ok, but too much of this isn't gonna work.. this is not a "DONT BOTHER ME, GO USE THE SEARCH BUTTON SUB-FORUM".. the main reason for me raising this is that everyone is asking everyone to search now..

i do not really care about the flamings that will very soon to receive, i am expecting it anyway.. i know what im talking about and i think its time for people to start helping out rather than pushing newbies away..

a real enthusiast will never push someone away if he/she needs help.. no matter how stupid his/her question may sound..

i guess that i should point out that no question is stupid.. the only stupid thing to do is to reply without helping.. e.g. "how do i do this? .. "go search.. theres a search function.. go away.. dont bother me.. "
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post Oct 5 2008, 02:39 AM

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@jakesean

You think that the search button is good once in awhile? My friend, you're so totally wrong.

Google was created as a search portal. If it was to meant to use once in awhile, why are they doing so well? Please, please, please.. think before you say search is only good "once in awhile" and it will be dumb to have a search button on every forum out there.

Again, use your WORDS properly and i reckon you have not been thru life as i can see why you say what you say. Immaturity speaks for it self my friend.

Let's stop here as this will not benefit both newbies and us. Noobs will keep asking noobs questions and i hope you're up to the job. Don't say and not follow up with actions. That's the worst kind of person you can be.

Cheers

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post Oct 5 2008, 07:16 AM

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They are a number of repeated questions being asked on the forum. While people are here to help, it isn't fair for people to be answering the same questions over and over again.

If you have a question, please use the search function and read through existing threads to find answers to common questions before posting a new one. There will almost always be someone who has had the exact same question. You'll get your answer faster, and save the moderators and other forum users a lot of time.

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from my experience, own research make you more better.
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post Oct 5 2008, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(davidgary73 @ Oct 5 2008, 02:39 AM)
@jakesean

You think that the search button is good once in awhile? My friend, you're so totally wrong.

Google was created as a search portal. If it was to meant to use once in awhile, why are they doing so well? Please, please, please.. think before you say search is only good "once in awhile" and it will be dumb to have a search button on every forum out there.

Again, use your WORDS properly and i reckon you have not been thru life as i can see why you say what you say. Immaturity speaks for it self my friend.

Let's stop here as this will not benefit both newbies and us. Noobs will keep asking noobs questions and i hope you're up to the job. Don't say and not follow up with actions. That's the worst kind of person you can be.

Cheers
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what part of my "once in a while" in my statement do you not understand? the message im trying to convey here is that some forumers tells newbies to go search for stuff all the time, rather than helping out.. rather than pushing them away, do not reply that thread, or just post a simple link to their solution.. simple, right?

and yes, this is non beneficial to me, nor to u.. but if the message gets sent out right, it will surely benefit the forum and the other newbies that seeks help in future.. not in a "spoon-feeding" way..

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from my experience, own research make you more better.
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i do my own research all the time.. some people don't.. be it lazy or for whatever reasons, i have no idea.. doing your own research does not mean googling all the the time.. sometimes you may need to ask people for help, or in this case, ask your questions on this forum..
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well.... I think we all must stop this now. No points arguing due to the noobs/newbies Qs, which might probably distract our 'relationship' here.

Let's stay as what it is.... cos we all can't do much indeed if newbies/noobs always have the same attitudes → straight away ask Qs without even reading some.

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QUOTE(jakesean @ Oct 5 2008, 10:30 AM)
what part of my "once in a while" in my statement do you not understand? the message im trying to convey here is that some forumers tells newbies to go search for stuff all the time, rather than helping out.. rather than pushing them away, do not reply that thread, or just post a simple link to their solution.. simple, right? 

and yes, this is non beneficial to me, nor to u.. but if the message gets sent out right, it will surely benefit the forum and the other newbies that seeks help in future.. not in a "spoon-feeding" way..
i do my own research all the time.. some people don't.. be it lazy or for whatever reasons, i have no idea.. doing your own research does not mean googling all the the time.. sometimes you may need to ask people for help, or in this case, ask your questions on this forum..
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Jake, as much as you have writtten here, do whatever you think is right.

Cheers

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post Oct 5 2008, 12:25 PM

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honestly jakesean,


you ought to read back your posts (in this thread), because the things that you have said simply don't hold water and shows a hint of hypocrisy.



frankly speaking, as davidgary73 have suggested, you can go ahead and carry on do whatever that you deem is fit but just don't go acting that you are one level more superior than the rest here by dropping your so-called one or two liners of wisdom (when the people here despite flaming newbies, still provide them with a satisfactory answer/solution in the end). hence unless you can do better than that, please keep your derogatory comments to yourself (yes, i know this is a forum and you can argue that it's your God-given right to speak et cetera).



in fact, since you have already decided to turn over a new leaf, i tell you what... from today onwards, whenever a newbies comes in, asking questions (which have already been pinned), i will (alongside with the peeps here) ask them to PM/e-mail you personally. so that you can share your personal enthusiast's touch. of course most importantly you will not be ashamed anymore and probably redeemed your karma for what you have done previously.







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post Oct 5 2008, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Oct 5 2008, 12:25 PM)
honestly jakesean,
you ought to read back your posts (in this thread), because the things that you have said simply don't hold water and shows a hint of hypocrisy.
frankly speaking, as davidgary73 have suggested, you can go ahead and carry on do whatever that you deem is fit but just don't go acting that you are one level more superior than the rest here by dropping your so-called one or two liners of wisdom (when the people here despite flaming newbies, still provide them with a satisfactory answer/solution in the end). hence unless you can do better than that, please keep your derogatory comments to yourself (yes, i know this is a forum and you can argue that it's your God-given right to speak et cetera).
in fact, since you have already decided to turn over a new leaf, i tell you what... from today onwards, whenever a newbies comes in, asking questions (which have already been pinned), i will (alongside with the peeps here) ask them to PM/e-mail you personally. so that you can share your personal enthusiast's touch. of course most importantly you will not be ashamed anymore and probably redeemed your karma for what you have done previously.
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wow.. u seriously still dont get my point..
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post Oct 5 2008, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(jakesean @ Oct 5 2008, 06:31 PM)
wow.. u seriously still dont get my point..
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wow back at you! either you have completely lost it or the 4 person, including myself who shared the same thought (of course they all malaysian residents) have. somehow, i'm more inclined towards the first...





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post Oct 5 2008, 11:38 PM

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hmm now i know why got "tribute" thread for SIFU jakesean
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ps: hope u can assist all the newbie with their irrelevant questions nod.gif

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Oct 5 2008, 11:38 PM)
ps: hope u can assist all the newbie with their irrelevant questions  nod.gif
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I second this. rclxms.gif

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post Oct 5 2008, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Oct 5 2008, 11:38 PM)
hmm now i know why got "tribute" thread for SIFU jakesean
kewL.. thumbup.gif

ps: hope u can assist all the newbie with their irrelevant questions  nod.gif
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who is 'you' if i may ask? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Oct 5 2008, 11:43 PM)
who is 'you' if i may ask?  tongue.gif
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u/ you= the great SIFU jakesean FTW icon_idea.gif brows.gif laugh.gif
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post Oct 5 2008, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Oct 5 2008, 11:46 PM)
u/ you= the great SIFU jakesean FTW  icon_idea.gif  brows.gif  laugh.gif
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no worries, i'm pretty sure he will.
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post Oct 6 2008, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Oct 5 2008, 11:48 PM)
no worries, i'm pretty sure he will.
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laugh.gif again, I second this laugh.gif
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perhaps, he/she won't be back afterall.... hmm.gif
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post Oct 6 2008, 05:43 AM

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QUOTE(friends @ Oct 6 2008, 12:15 AM)
perhaps, he/she won't be back afterall.... hmm.gif
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.....and this topic continue.....
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For a spam now? ok.. im in.. lol..
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post Oct 6 2008, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(JasLyn @ Oct 6 2008, 08:34 AM)
For a spam now? ok.. im in.. lol..
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