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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V7<<,, The Journey Continues Here!

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post Nov 30 2008, 10:55 PM

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sort of...

and the best thing is, just push the Turbo button on ur chasis, and there u go, CPU in Turbo mode... no BIOS, no tweaking, no trial and error...

wonders y no such function on the CPU now...
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post Dec 1 2008, 01:42 AM

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after a while, i left the TURBO ON all the time

100mhz to 133mhz biggrin.gif

lol and i stil have that machine, with 1.3GB hard disk with it

it was legendary Windows 98
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post Dec 1 2008, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 30 2008, 10:38 PM)
Whoa,you spent RM1.6k to buy the processor alone last time? rclxub.gif  Your Pentium D seems like not bad still can watch 1080p format movies with minimal lag. P4 is only able to watch 720p format movies with a few frames lag in the whole movie. thumbup.gif  Seems like brother side by side ya.Unfortunately our gpu can't help us to play hd movies. I solute those people who is able to upgrade frequently when new tech is out.

Can you mention more on the CPUs Turbo function? I would like to know more with the function. During 90's i was still no chance to touch with computers.
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i think the few frames lag of ur 720p viewing is cause by ur GC. i'm on p4 2.8e @stock pair with x1950pro didn't have frame lag issue. the only down side is when i'm on 720p viewing, i need to disable all unwanted program & processes to make 720p running smoother. if not, the cpu usage can easily go as high as 95%+ sweat.gif
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post Dec 1 2008, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 30 2008, 10:38 PM)
Whoa,you spent RM1.6k to buy the processor alone last time? rclxub.gif  Your Pentium D seems like not bad still can watch 1080p format movies with minimal lag. P4 is only able to watch 720p format movies with a few frames lag in the whole movie. thumbup.gif  Seems like brother side by side ya.Unfortunately our gpu can't help us to play hd movies. I solute those people who is able to upgrade frequently when new tech is out.

Can you mention more on the CPUs Turbo function? I would like to know more with the function. During 90's i was still no chance to touch with computers.
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I bought when Pentium D was newly launched to the market. Think of it as people now getting Core i7 or Core 2 Duo when it was first launched. P4 can watch 720p movies fine without any lag as it uses the CPU. What I am talking is that use of GPU , Graphics card that has AVIVO HD or PureVideo 2 and above can be used to offload calculations to the GPU , hence the CPU can remain idle and you can do other task.

You need a good graphics card for it. At least the latest low-end graphics card would do the trick anyway

QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 30 2008, 10:47 PM)
Last time's CPU also can "overclock" just with the function of Turbo on?
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Yeah , its something like that. Think of it as automatic oc'ing. You enable it when you need the extra performance. Hit the turbo button (there is a button for it) and voila you get a bit of faster speed. Turn it off when you're not using it to run "demanding" applications. When I say demanding i meant games such as Quake back then , it was fun
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post Dec 1 2008, 11:23 AM

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It is P35-DS3R! Lol.. This mobo cames with on board RAID. Anyways, it still on Nicolasteoh hand and waiting for its return.
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post Dec 1 2008, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(barry80 @ Dec 1 2008, 02:30 AM)
i think the few frames lag of ur 720p viewing is cause by ur GC. i'm on p4 2.8e @stock pair with x1950pro didn't have frame lag issue. the only down side is when i'm on 720p viewing, i need to disable all unwanted program & processes to make 720p running smoother. if not, the cpu usage can easily go as high as 95%+  sweat.gif
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Not sure with the GC although,sees like good gpu is helping in HD movies. My CPU also easily use up to 95% of the resources during the complex scenes. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(prasys @ Dec 1 2008, 10:06 AM)
I bought when Pentium D was newly launched to the market. Think of it as people now getting Core i7 or Core 2 Duo when it was first launched. P4 can watch 720p movies fine without any lag as it uses the CPU. What I am talking is that use of GPU , Graphics card that has AVIVO HD or PureVideo 2 and above can be used to offload calculations to the GPU , hence the CPU can remain idle and you can do other task.

You need a good graphics card for it. At least the latest low-end graphics card would do the trick anyway
Yeah , its something like that. Think of it as automatic oc'ing. You enable it when you need the extra performance. Hit the turbo button (there is a button for it) and voila you get a bit of faster speed. Turn it off when you're not using it to run "demanding" applications. When I say demanding i meant games such as Quake back then , it was fun
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Thanks for sharing the Turbo mode feature. Guess to play HD movies smoothly,GPU is playing an important role here. Low end like 8600GT is able to do the job easily i guess.

QUOTE(fylon @ Dec 1 2008, 11:23 AM)
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It is P35-DS3R! Lol.. This mobo cames with on board RAID. Anyways, it still on Nicolasteoh hand and waiting for its return.
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Seems like > 2 months already your mobo went for RMA. What fails you on the mobo?
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post Dec 1 2008, 12:55 PM

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i think its the player u use when playing 720P movies as well

its about CPU , yes , but the player & codecs play an important role

mkv files or h264 files have their prefered player that reduces lag, or rather no lag at all on our machines smile.gif
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post Dec 1 2008, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Dec 1 2008, 12:55 PM)
i think its the player u use when playing 720P movies as well

its about CPU , yes , but the player & codecs play an important role

mkv files or h264 files have their prefered player that reduces lag, or rather no lag at all on our machines smile.gif
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Yea. since now all the 720p in mkv encoded h264, mind sharing which codec & player is the best suit for our p4?(less cpu usage) currenty using k-lite full pack & divx.
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post Dec 1 2008, 02:39 PM

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The best codec for encoding HD will be coreAVC thou. Highly recommended! thumbup.gif But ofcause it ain't free.. But it always a way to get it for F*EE. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(barry80 @ Dec 1 2008, 02:05 PM)
Yea. since now all the 720p in mkv encoded h264, mind sharing which codec & player is the best suit for our p4?(less cpu usage) currenty using k-lite full pack & divx.
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i think u can try a pack called CCCP (community codec sth pack)...

it's free...
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QUOTE(barry80 @ Dec 1 2008, 02:05 PM)
Yea. since now all the 720p in mkv encoded h264, mind sharing which codec & player is the best suit for our p4?(less cpu usage) currenty using k-lite full pack & divx.
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CoerAVC is the way to go

The codec plays a bigger role than the player

and another thing will be your GPU, get a better GPU and they will not be much of a lag or high CPU usage when playing HD h264 files. Due to GPU architecture + VRAM (higher the better, minimum 128MB at least for me)

Because I did comparison b4 3.4Ghz P4 with a 64MB GF4 MX440 and same CPU speed with 128MB 5900XT, CPU usage down by half
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 1 2008, 07:02 PM)
CoerAVC is the way to go

The codec plays a bigger role than the player

and another thing will be your GPU, get a better GPU and they will not be much of a lag or high CPU usage when playing HD h264 files. Due to GPU architecture + VRAM (higher the better, minimum 128MB at least for me)

Because I did comparison b4 3.4Ghz P4 with a 64MB GF4 MX440 and same CPU speed with 128MB 5900XT, CPU usage down by half
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Seems like Core AVC is the best choice among codecs. I might try out and see cause i'm using klite codec.
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post Dec 2 2008, 01:07 AM

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if your PC is a dual core, you don't need CoreAVC anymore, ffdshow's h264 decoder can do the job already
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post Dec 2 2008, 01:17 AM

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im stuck with 720i (i think..)..coz i has p4 1.6ghz. any advantages if im using such as ati radeon 2600 (in playing HD movie)..coz now im just using nvidia 6200.
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post Dec 2 2008, 02:08 AM

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im using klite, so what do i do with it if i put in core AVC?
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if u are decoding it with ffdshow and you installed CoreAVC
U need to disable the H264 decoding in ffdshow, then only CoreAVC will take place

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post Dec 2 2008, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 2 2008, 07:17 PM)
if u are decoding it with ffdshow and you installed CoreAVC
U need to disable the H264 decoding in ffdshow, then only CoreAVC will take place
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i can't find any "disable" k-lite h264. i can only c "disable" h264/AVC decoder (CoreAVC)

but after installed CoreAVC, the cpu usage no longer as high as 90%+ now it stay at 50-60% this CoreAVC really can reduce cpu usage.

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post Dec 4 2008, 07:21 AM

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looks like better reviews regarding coreAVC

i will give it a try because my movies tend to lag out of sync, especially audio
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post Dec 4 2008, 05:41 PM

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CoreAVC can lessen the load on the processor itself

Your X800 PRO have Avivo right? You also can se it to decode H264 videos
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Guys,just went to PC fair,8GB flash drive only RM48. Corsair DDR1 400 1GB is RM97.

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