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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V7<<,, The Journey Continues Here!

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post Mar 11 2009, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Mar 11 2009, 07:57 PM)
i saw the exact mobo on garage sales hence my post on the biostar mobo in S478 thread

for me if u moving that direction, its ok smile.gif

just dun bother if u are looking at overclocking high as well as performing as fast as those PCIE and DDR2 original guys out there

raymond,
well, means that is 1 hell of a rare northwood.. biggrin.gif 3.0ghz summore

RM350 , i can consider buying 4 my mom and replace my other RDRAM system...
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You have an RDRAM system too?How fast is your proc speed?If moving to the mobo with PCIE and DDR2,i think right now has nothing wrong to do so as long as don't mind so much on the bottleneck.Proc with 3.0GHz above would be a better choice to pair with 2GB/4GB DDR2 + a 7600GT or 7800/7900 series. thumbup.gif Yup,the 30 caps Northwood is really a rare item.You are interested with it?
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post Mar 11 2009, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(dlwl @ Mar 11 2009, 09:28 PM)
yeah, since it has 2 ide, i can straight plug in my current 2 hdds, and able to switch to sata anytime. however, it's also possible to find a dual core amd am2 proc and mobo for around that price. my haert still kinda half half on the biostar + 3.0 combo or the amd combo.  sad.gif
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I see,not in the hurry to get them?Think and consider both of them again. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 11 2009, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Mar 11 2009, 10:21 PM)
now i also headache on hunting 2nd c2d/p2c set the headache part is GC and Motherboard

Cause now all is using Pci 2.0 16x but many old motherboard is Pci 16x only

Although pci 2.0 16x GC is working fine on normal Pci-e 16x slot but stilll kind of worry will happen anything or not since Technology move fast hai.........
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Mar 11 2009, 10:43 PM)
will the performance of ATI 4830 decrease a lot if i using it on PIC-E 1.0/1.1 ?
Since Ati 4830 is pci-e 2.0
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PCI-E 2.0 will not affect so much on the GC's performance.Those bandwdith peak is just theoritical,during loading they are not 100% loaded to the suggested bandwidth.ATI4830 card isn't a high end card,it won't degrade in either PCI-E 2.0 or 3.0.Just my 2 cents.


QUOTE(dlwl @ Mar 11 2009, 10:25 PM)
yeah, not really in a hurry..coz this is for my home rig. besides that i also have plans to upgarde my own rig brows.gif
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post Mar 12 2009, 08:57 AM

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Guys,spotted a 3.4GHz Northwood 30caps for sale.PCI-E 2.0 and 3.0 aren't much different unless you are on 9800GTX * 2 or 4870*2,perhaps you could gain a little bit better in performance.
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post Mar 12 2009, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Mar 12 2009, 09:43 AM)
i would have prefered a 3.2 prescott or something

btw, the possible mystery for my 10FPS gain in Left 4 Dead is probably coz of Windows XP SP3 and SP2

other than that all are similiar configurations =.=

and i have lower total RAM now (not that thats gonna make much difference since i dun fully use it )
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I don't think so,i suspect before you re-apply the paste your proc was properly overheat.
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post Mar 12 2009, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 12 2009, 09:58 AM)
As for the 10fps gained, im quite agree with what Raymond says. Since u did mentioned ur thermal paste is dried and u din apply a new one for ages for ur previous rigs. That probably the main problem of causing ur system got slow down. And also, most P4 has auto throttling features to prevent the processor got burnt and by default the feature is on. Just we dont know the throttling percentage as diff mobo has diff setting.

2nd thing, might probably is the OS. Just wander, which SP are u using for the current system? Im still in SP2 and never intend to go for SP3. tongue.gif So far so good for me. Am going to move into XP x64 once i got my another 2GB ram on hand.
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Yup,all P4 procs will have auto throttling feature.on SP2 or 3,i feel that SP 3 sometimes will have minor bug on internet explorer when surfing lyn.The screen will hanged in the middle of surfing.

QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 12 2009, 10:11 AM)
another possible reason would be the memory controller. u r now using 2 RAM slots instead of 4 slots, that may increase the bandwidth efficiency because less burden on the controller. just a thought.
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How much more laod if 4 slots of memory is fully used?

QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 12 2009, 10:12 AM)
@edmin
Oi brother, ur system how liao? Hahah...
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Pushing him already? brows.gif

QUOTE(Jcsy @ Mar 12 2009, 12:25 PM)
thermal paste only brought it down 5-10C which i doubt was the gain in 10 FPS

ram slots, probably coz i was running weird timing and stuff and now on 2 DIMM's, everything is standard and looks proper

previously i was on SP3 with all my settings saved

i restored the exact settings on SP2 , and now plays better

weird thing is i cant find the 'overclock' ability for my CPU on the BIOS
haha biggrin.gif
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Your mobo can't o/c ?

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post Mar 12 2009, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Mar 12 2009, 02:53 PM)
@edmin
yup i think cant OC.. cant find anythin 2 do with CPU multipliers and such

well, last time 4 DIMM slot, now 2 DIMM slot

well, possibly temperature but running CPU-Z shows my proc never actually dipped its processing , in either temperature or power
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Is this the mobo which you are using currently?
http://www.motherboardpro.com/MSI-PM8M-V-S...oard-p-186.html
If yes this is showing a VIA chip on the mobo.Max. RAM can be supported is 2GB only

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post Mar 12 2009, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Mar 12 2009, 03:05 PM)
yup i think its that mobo biggrin.gif

cant OC right
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I'm not sure cause my friend has a mobo which is using VIA chipset,can make o/c one.
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post Mar 12 2009, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 12 2009, 03:47 PM)
But the 5-10'c does affect the throttling levle on ur P4. Hahah.. Usually the throttling will start when the CPU temp hit 70'c or above. My previous P4P800SE, the auto throttle start when the CPU hit 60'c. 1st level is 25% throttle, 2nd level if temp hit 70'c or above 50% throttling. So.. Can u imaging the horse power cut off on a processor when it were overheat.
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How we can check the throttle level?
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post Mar 12 2009, 04:42 PM

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What is so excited here?New toys coming in?
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post Mar 12 2009, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 12 2009, 09:17 PM)
hi guys, reporting in.

my new replacement killer:

Intel X3220 (Quad 2.4Ghz, 8mb cache, 1066)
8GB DDR2 800 Corsair Gaming Ram
Abit P35-E Off Limits
ATI 2400HD Pro (loaned card from a friend)

I m off to update the bios etc... will be back in a jiffy
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IP35 Pro mobo,my brother is using the same one. thumbup.gif Intel Xeon Quad core with 8GB of RAM,awaresome. You will need 64bits windows to detect all the RAM in window.
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post Mar 12 2009, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 12 2009, 10:29 PM)
Hahah.. Finally the announcement made. laugh.gif Even more powaful then mine now. He told he is going to invest a 4870X2 and Corsair HX1000W
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I thought he said gonig to use only on board VGA? laugh.gif
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post Mar 12 2009, 11:20 PM

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@edmin,you're right.Wait for their price to drop.
@flyon,want to buy P4 toy again?
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post Mar 13 2009, 08:45 AM

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True true,such a nice system with 8GB of RAM is wasted if there is no game playing there.He should borrow a GTX295 to slot in there. drool.gif
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post Mar 13 2009, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 13 2009, 09:07 AM)
bagus bagus, siapa mau pinjam saya GTX295  brows.gif
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brows.gif Tengok fylon ada lubang can get one or not. brows.gif Between,dia sudah beli P4 set from you?
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post Mar 13 2009, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 13 2009, 10:04 AM)
he FFK  vmad.gif  doh.gif  rclxub.gif
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How come FFK one?Thought he has confirmed to buy from you?Did you save the msn history yesterday? laugh.gif
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post Mar 13 2009, 11:20 AM

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@fylon,do you feel itchy or not?Your back back...haha.Edmin,your P4 rig still lying at your house?
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post Mar 13 2009, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 13 2009, 12:37 PM)
wahaha....... fylon and ed got msn war?? jk jk...

wanna clean up my rig soon...... too dusty. then wanna test test with ed's 76gt on mine soon brows.gif
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Want to grab his?I support you. brows.gif
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post Mar 13 2009, 02:12 PM

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Glad to hear that GC is sold to kabu.edmin,your RAM does o/c before?How high it can go with 1:1 divider?
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post Mar 13 2009, 02:31 PM

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Arh...then my dream to get another 2 stick to run on 1:1 divider on DDR450 is kaput already. wink.gif

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