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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V7<<,, The Journey Continues Here!

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post Apr 19 2009, 12:43 PM

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P/s: No.. Was upgraded from E6600 to Q6600. Haha!
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post Apr 19 2009, 01:13 PM

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haha E6600 and Q6600

alot difference meh biggrin.gif

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post Apr 19 2009, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Apr 19 2009, 01:13 PM)
haha E6600 and Q6600

alot difference meh biggrin.gif

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P4 3Ghz vs P4 3Ghz HT = 1 physical core vs 1 physical + 1 virtual core

E6600 2.4Ghz vs Q6600 2.4Ghz = 2 physical core vs 4 physical core hmm.gif 4mb cache vs 8mb cache hmm.gif

What say you? sweat.gif

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fylon
post Apr 19 2009, 01:42 PM

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Im sure after u goes for quad, u will never go back to P4. wink.gif The key point were the cache, 8x larger then ur current P4 la bro.
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post Apr 19 2009, 02:59 PM

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@fylon,P4 architecture is way too old to compare with C2Q technology.Not fair to compare them here. happy.gif

@edmin,you comment was saying E6600 and Q6600 are not much different there? hmm.gif
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post Apr 19 2009, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Apr 19 2009, 02:59 PM)
@fylon,P4 architecture is way too old to compare with C2Q technology.Not fair to compare them here. happy.gif

@edmin,you comment was saying E6600 and Q6600 are not much different there? hmm.gif
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@ray,
u misinterpret my comparisons there. I was like comparing the horsepower of a kancil vs 4 wheel drive! nod.gif

Normal usage, D and Q is basically no difference. Imagine a kancil and 4 wheel drive on normal road, There are traffic lights, speed limits and bumps so the kancil & 4 wheel performs the same. If you put kancil and 4 wheel into offroad conditions, that's a different scenario already. Same logic applies to the D and Q on same clockspeed and cache.

P/S: I hope my 'story' above is not confusing laugh.gif

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post Apr 19 2009, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(fylon @ Apr 19 2009, 01:42 PM)
@Jcsy
Im sure after u goes for quad, u will never go back to P4. wink.gif The key point were the cache, 8x larger then ur current P4 la bro.
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im using a dual core laptop, really good stuff

im using 4 x XEON 3.7ghz in the office as my server and i do know the difference, lol...

im moving to dark side, that being a i7 rig

so far, will cost me 4k on the dot biggrin.gif


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post Apr 19 2009, 08:56 PM

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@edmin,use Q mode to climb up the hills...lolz....

@Jcsy,4* Xeon 3.7GHz?A great server over there.....
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For me, E6600 and Q6600 is basically the same

Q6600 is just a E6600 X2 thats all
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post Apr 19 2009, 10:35 PM

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Hey guys ...

recently changed my mobo to a Biostar P4m900-m4, actualy gonna be 4 monts edi tongue.gif . Paired with a 2 gig stick or kingston value ram .. so far so good la sweat.gif bt now looking for a good GC.. any recomendations? Oh yea any1 wanna sell their Presscott HT 800 FSB ??

P/S: This mobo to me is kinda bad in OCing.. or is it just my Prescott "A" 2.4 that is suffering with the ddr2 or sumting? I reli dunno here...
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Apr 19 2009, 08:56 PM)
@edmin,use Q mode to climb up the hills...lolz....

@Jcsy,4* Xeon 3.7GHz?A great server over there.....
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yup, running VMware stuff on it thumbup.gif

so yup, i know the dark side and how bad it is already biggrin.gif

but at home, i dont see the need for the raw performance.. yet

hwoever im building my rig around i7, problem is justifying the cost of it and probably how long the thing will last

can never catch up with latest hardware

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post Apr 21 2009, 02:26 AM

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Wow ... y this thread slow edi .. 1 wholeday no one post .. waa
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post Apr 21 2009, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(mav910623 @ Apr 21 2009, 02:26 AM)
Wow ... y this thread slow edi .. 1 wholeday no one post .. waa
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No new comers to join,no o/c discussion,no air cooling discussion,no benchmark hence the thread slows down.
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post Apr 21 2009, 01:46 PM

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yeah its like an internal group of veterans that knows this thread exists for discussion, perhaps too technical discussion

actually i found out there are alot of users for pentium 4 s478 however they dont come in here sad.gif

even if they do, they post once, then leave...


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post Apr 21 2009, 01:57 PM

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we have shared almost all that we know and assisted those that have problems with their P4 rigs. what else r we suppose 2 do? :-)
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post Apr 21 2009, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Apr 21 2009, 01:57 PM)
we have shared almost all that we know and assisted those that have problems with their P4 rigs. what else r we suppose 2 do? :-)
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Mind helping me out then? tongue.gif

QUOTE(mav910623 @ Apr 19 2009, 10:35 PM)
Hey guys ...

recently changed my mobo to a Biostar P4m900-m4, actualy gonna be 4 monts edi tongue.gif . Paired with a 2 gig stick or kingston value ram .. so far so good la sweat.gif  bt now looking for a good GC.. any recomendations? Oh yea any1 wanna sell their Presscott HT 800 FSB ??

P/S: This mobo to me is kinda bad in OCing.. or is it just my Prescott "A" 2.4 that is suffering with the ddr2 or sumting? I reli dunno here...
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bro, in your case, your system is working fine. your problem in oc is very general, perhaps you can elaborate further on your issue. then again, oc depends on luck also most of the time.

good gc? your mobo supports PCIE, so i think 9500GT range would fit pretty well without bottlenecks.
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post Apr 21 2009, 02:37 PM

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agreed with ed, most of our problem was discussed since few previous versions. hardcore p4 users only handful. most p4 user now just play safe or already running at its optimum performance. thats why it seems a bit slow these days.

@mav910623
p4m900 wont bring you far due to its chipset limitation. but if you able set it to 1:1, you can easily get over 3GHz with your current 2.4A(i am the ex user).

better keep an eye on the temp. even though running at stock is cool, once oc its temp can be greatly increase when full load.

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i want 9500gt also cant la... now i am like ikan kering that dry. wuwu.....
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post Apr 21 2009, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Apr 21 2009, 02:14 PM)
bro, in your case, your system is working fine. your problem in oc is very general, perhaps you can elaborate further on your issue. then again, oc depends on luck also most of the time.

good gc? your mobo supports PCIE, so i think 9500GT range would fit pretty well without bottlenecks.
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Bro .. this mobo is via chipset and i have heard of problems running the nvidia 8800GT and such .. just worried it wont want 2 run the 9500GT... was looking at ATI side because the 4850 runs on this mobo .. play safe abit sweat.gif

QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Apr 21 2009, 02:37 PM)
agreed with ed, most of our problem was discussed since few previous versions. hardcore p4 users only handful. most p4 user now just play safe or already running at its optimum performance. thats why it seems a bit slow these days.

@mav910623
p4m900 wont bring you far due to its chipset limitation. but if you able set it to 1:1, you can easily get over 3GHz with your current 2.4A(i am the ex user).

better keep an eye on the temp. even though running at stock is cool, once oc its temp can be greatly increase when full load. 

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Yea bro .. temp is the only major issue here..Stock cooling doh.gif but it seems that as soon as i try 2 OC even a little it will get unstable or wont start up at all... really annoying edi.. well going to jump to a 3.2 GHz northwood n c wad happens thumbup.gif
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post Apr 21 2009, 03:32 PM

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since u have made up your mind for ATI, just go for it. 4850 is too much for your setup IMHO. btw, there should be no problem running nvidia on VIA.
temp with stock cooling is no issue. u gotta check what is your current load temp. with stock cooling you can also do some good amount of oc.

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