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 All About Badminton Equipment v2, Racket, Shoes, Grip, String, Cocks

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ziggy87
post Sep 10 2010, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 10 2010, 02:31 PM)
Coz indo nt a strong alrdy ma..easy thg..in business,u wan to push ur product by sponsor on famous ppl or nt famous ppl?
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if i'm not mistaken, hafiz hashim, chan chong ming, chew choon eng etc etc still sponsored by yonex
they more popular or kido/setiawan more popular?


Added on September 10, 2010, 6:52 pm
QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 10 2010, 05:49 PM)
they look different. but according to the description and 1 review about bs10, both serve the same purpose... any better example to explain?? i too noob to notice the difference  sad.gif
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actually to me they have the same purpose
both tech will produce faster swing

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post Sep 10 2010, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 10 2010, 08:47 PM)
Nope..jus hafiz use yonex only..chan chong meng and choo chun eng is sponsor by victor..coz they r nt play for bam..is personal d.


Added on September 10, 2010, 8:51 pm
Yup..hav to test it...bt slim shaft is easy swing for example changing position from left to right or up to down...aerodynamic is d timing u hit d shuttle more faster compare to box shape.
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ok just hafiz. so he's more popular than kido/setiawan?
cannot be
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post Sep 10 2010, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 10 2010, 09:25 PM)
Jus like wat i say hafiz is still under bam..u knw badminton association malaysia...yonex nt sponsor to hafiz,yonex is sponsor to bam..so if u r bam player u can use yonex lo..hahaha..
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means kido/setiawan not under PBSI anymore?
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post Sep 11 2010, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(plkvoon @ Sep 10 2010, 10:34 PM)
kido&setiawan are no longer under under PBSI...
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sifu has spoken notworthy.gif

oic blush.gif
taufik is not under PBSI anymore right?
so he's on personal sponsorship?

eh..i remember seeing kido/setiawan wearing yonex shirts in competition somewhere this year
how long have they been out of PBSI?

QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 11 2010, 12:34 AM)
Same like wong choon han lo.


Added on September 11, 2010, 12:38 am
Ns9900..same u take d pork knife..u swing it up and down fast coz sharp area cut d air..bt left right so slow coz large blade area cant cut d air.
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ya i know, he under dunlop
wan wah/tan fook under victor right?
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post Sep 11 2010, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(Omage007 @ Sep 11 2010, 01:42 AM)
So now ziggy87 is under which brand sponsorship?  rclxms.gif
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sameas Omage007 rclxms.gif
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post Sep 11 2010, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(chiller @ Sep 11 2010, 04:53 PM)
I borrow from fren's, no need sponsor
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post Sep 12 2010, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 11 2010, 10:31 PM)
today i went a sport studio which i normally go. surprisingly i found that AT700 is not locked to the rack so i grab it and hold it in my hand for the 1st time. what i found is.... i cant really differentiate a T200 and AT700... i found that both of them have the similar feeling. maybe because i didnt try to swing the AT700  seriously, just simply rotate my wrist
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you should swing it. it's very head heavy according to reviews. unless that's a fake rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(bayanbaru @ Sep 11 2010, 11:20 PM)
went to jusco...saw some nice gosen racket...i think is sparklite 77 but quite expensive at rm199
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cannot buy such equipments at jusco. very expensive
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Sep 13 2010, 11:37 PM)
today jz get my new racket but not apac , not rsl , not yonex o
protech is it ok ?
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lol..yea protech is ok
might not be as good as rsl/yonex geh
should be around apac quality
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post Sep 14 2010, 04:04 AM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Sep 14 2010, 12:49 AM)
o o
but i know yonex not say cant bsl too high ?
hmm rsl
think to find but today see at AJ like not so nice
he offer me the protech jupiter not bad a
with bg66
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depends what model la..quite a lot can string high geh
as long as no clash then ok ge la
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post Sep 16 2010, 05:10 AM

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QUOTE(wtfoo1 @ Sep 16 2010, 01:47 AM)
My method, I will benchmark against the current racquet I use, I find what I like or dislike about my current racquet.

So, say I like my current racquet, so, I will try to buy a few pieces, just as spare, in case one break. If it already discontinued, then, I will tell the shop, the characteristic I looking for, based on the model I am using, usually, they able to advice.

My 2 kupang comments, head heavy rackets, good for smashing, more power, disadvantage, you need strong arm, your reflexes may slowed when defence, cause u need to against the gravity, swing the racquet head facing down upwards (as compare to headlight racquet). Therefore, more suitable for attacking player.

Head balance, or headlight racket, opposite, smash less power than head heavy, but more easier to control. So, more suitable for defensive player or those like counter-attack.


Added on September 16, 2010, 2:01 am

I know AJ got, but, not sure if the model you mentioned have or not. Suggest you call first before go, cause feel they have limited stock, usually, those popular size no stock one. Later go there, no stock, waste time only  doh.gif worse still, later kena poison by by the boss or boss wife, give you special offer, introduce new racquet, end up buy new racquet  sweat.gif , therefore, if want to go there, suggest bring ngam ngam amount, no extra money, no credit card.  whistling.gif

Ok, back to your question, Asics shoes famous for their gel in their sole, so, if you jump or what, not so hurt on your knee and ankle.

BTW, may I know why you disastified with Gosen or Yonex? Actually, I trying to survey, to find a better shoe too. I had used Power and Yonex before, not Gosen. Currently, using Apacs. Heard from my badminton friend, Victor not bad too (but, disclaimer, I never tried Victor that before)
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lately a little of my interest sparked on victor and mizuno shoes rolleyes.gif
Victor SHW8000 seems nice wub.gif
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post Sep 18 2010, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 18 2010, 01:32 AM)
my badminton shoes also spoilt... plan to find a new pair to replace it. i tend to stress my right leg more than my left leg. and my right small toe sometime feel sore after 2 hours of playing(i think this is y my right shoe get wore off til a small hole and u can see my little toe). any nice 1 recommended?? for my case izzit better to get shoes with good cushion?? budget below RM150
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can consider yonex ultima series
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post Sep 18 2010, 04:25 AM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Sep 18 2010, 03:36 AM)
oo i c
cause dunno is it too long no play badminton
play around 2 months then my hand start pain
my fren tell me that can prevent 扭到 english i dunno call wat
but i go ask AJ shop he tell me no such thing haha
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lol..wristband can prevent sprained/twisted wrist
wristband is too thick to be the supporting mechanism i think
trainer's tape or athletic tape can be used as support
but seems like putting some around the wrist is more like limiting the movement more than support
it's very hard to move. might be good for training laugh.gif


Added on September 18, 2010, 4:46 am


something i wanna share

i have some questions in my head regarding string tension
let's assume..same string, same racket, new shuttle of same type, similar swing and strength
assume that i can handle 28lbs with no problem
i can produce lightning smash with 28lbs if hit the sweetspot
but i feel that the sweetspot smash with 24lbs has similar speed

well it doesn't trouble me but makes me wonder, which should be faster?

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post Sep 18 2010, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(doublezul @ Sep 18 2010, 05:10 PM)
what brand/model of towel grip is good?
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make your own tongue.gif
it's cheaper hence more hygiene since you can change often
although some work is needed

all you need is a piece of towel (any towel, thick/thin any colors you like)
some double sided tape and a good cutter (blade/scissors, your decision)
cut them into strips, paste the double sided tape onto it and grip your handle


Added on September 18, 2010, 10:00 pm
QUOTE(pooh88 @ Sep 18 2010, 08:06 PM)
Bro,

Click the link below for the Dunlop specs  rclxms.gif

http://www.dunlopsport.com/gb/catalog/2010/badminton/rackets
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only photos and descriptions..no specs
1 window shopping/increase knowledge also cannot tongue.gif

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post Sep 19 2010, 05:08 AM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Sep 19 2010, 12:27 AM)
haha
got use a ?
i just buy a thing but use le feel not biasa
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i mean i was laughing at the idea that wristband can prevent sprained wrist
i don't think it can

QUOTE(melvin93 @ Sep 19 2010, 12:49 AM)
hmm guys, i feel like my BG85 27lbs is giving too much stress to my arms, should i lower the tension slightly  with same strings or should i get

a zymax62 , or bg66, with around 26 or 25lbs?
note : im looking for more power  thumbup.gif
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how's your accuracy?
if your accuracy is high (constantly hitting sweetspot), can try Zy62 @ 24lbs or lower
Zy62@24lbs is equivalent to BG66@26lbs

QUOTE(nemoexcel @ Sep 19 2010, 04:42 AM)
A higher stringed tension = more control, but LESS power in your smashes
lower tension = more power in smashes, but LESS control of your shuttle.. imagine a trampoline effect if you jump on it....

check this out bro >> http://badmintonracketguide.com/tag/badminton-string/
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thanks but i already knew that long ago
the problem is..i'm producing SAME power with both high and low tension
that's the part i don't understand why
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QUOTE(melvin93 @ Sep 19 2010, 07:33 AM)
hmm but its hard to get a zymax 62 in subang here tho, but theres another brand which also has 0.62

so should  i settle for bg66 with 26lbs or zymax 62 with 24 or less?? i mean like if bg66 is equivalent, then i think i should just get the bg66... because its thicker so it should last longer right??

these are thinner than bg85, so i guess it will produce more  power than the current bg85 with 27lbs?
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i don't have the best accuracy around, so i think i will go for something more forgiving, already using edgesaber Z slayer  laugh.gif
so it comes down to...

a)BG85 with 24lbs
b)BG66 with 25 lbs (more sling shot i guess, or should i get higher tension.. i have troubles after first round with bg85;27lbs)
c)zymax62 with 24lbs or lesser

which of these have the most power?? i can adapt to control so im just looking for the most power here  sweat.gif
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u mean lining 0.62? u can skip that
most reviews says that Zy62 beat it flat

QUOTE(Omage007 @ Sep 19 2010, 10:46 AM)
Could it be your arm/wrist/body power only manage to explode the full power of 24lbs string but not 28lbs?

let say LinDan use 24lbs smash is 200km/h, use 28lbs smash is 250km/h, he is strong enough to explode the full power of both string tension.
but you use 24lbs smash is 185km/h, use 28lbs smash is 190km/h, make you feel like both speed is around the same??  hmm.gif
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make some sense

QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 19 2010, 02:14 PM)
Thats mean ur hand nt enough power to use d high tension..
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this is most probably the problem

nah..just something that i wonder
it's not really a good comparison though because i was comparing a 3u(24lbs) and a 4u(28lbs) racket
i can still live with it coz my shots are still reaching baseline and not always half court with the 28lbs
thank you all sifus!! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 19 2010, 06:55 PM)
Haha..high and low tension probaly will find smash speed..stroke nt so can feel d different.
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yupe. i can place shots better with 28lbs
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post Sep 20 2010, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 20 2010, 12:19 AM)
i believe BG6 is more durable than BG66 while BG66 can produce more power.
i have read some of u giving info about string tension. for those who still dont understand, i will like u to caring out this simple experiment.
1. get a rubber band.
2. then u pull the rubber band til cresent shape. and record the X as well as the strength needed to pull it to Xcm
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3. then move the pulled rubber band near ur skin and then release ur finger so that the rubber band will strike u. this illustrate low tension
4. use the same rubber band, now u stretch the rubber band longer to illutrate high tension. repeat 1 to 3.
5. now u compare which 1 is more pain as well as the strength require to pull the rubber band to Xcm
hopefully this help
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of course stretched longer is more painful when hit our hand
but..more painful means?

from what i see, it's the opposite (no offense fantasia bro blush.gif)
u pull the rubber band a little bit which illustrate the string movement when the shuttle hits
higher tension will have smaller X while lower tension will have bigger X

it's like jumping on bed(low tension) and floor(high tension)
bed will allow higher jump (means more power)

that's the theory that i understand

btw, good effot to explain the 'trampoline effect' bro fantasia rclxms.gif
sorry if it is not what u're trying to explain blush.gif

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post Sep 20 2010, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(devince83 @ Sep 20 2010, 09:40 AM)
he did mentioned to pull the rubber band X cm same for experiment 1 & 2. This make the X cm is the constant figure.
When you stretch the rubber band longer a bit, you will need more strength to pull the rubber band to X cm.

Stretching the rubber band = tension
Pulling the rubber band = strength / hitting force
In short, the higher tension of your racket the more force you need to make stronger hitting power than using low tension string.

I just give a guess on what he mean.
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 20 2010, 10:55 AM)
sifu devince83 got it right ^^

yes, u r correct  notworthy.gif  and the pain comparison is to understand the power produced. more pain=more power produced
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now i get what u mean..
let's say the stretching is done vertically
the higher the stretching, the higher the tension
now i get it lol blush.gif

definitely, more force is needed to pull the rubber band to Xcm if the rubberband is stretched more

we have the same understanding..just showing it in a different way laugh.gif

wa deVince, using TWO top end victor rackets eh drool.gif ..i wan try~~
your lethal 50 gantung-ed? lmao


Added on September 20, 2010, 3:03 pm
QUOTE(melvin93 @ Sep 20 2010, 01:23 PM)
apacs email told me to string my edgesaber Z slayer to 18 ~ 22lbs for more power sad.gif

but im using 27 now, i feel like putting it to 25 for a way faster smash thumbup.gif
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you emailed apacs asking how to get more power? blink.gif

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QUOTE(devince83 @ Sep 20 2010, 06:40 PM)
lethal 50 crash and broken with someone from la salle session doh.gif doh.gif dry.gif dry.gif
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ooo another fallen warrior in the year.

what makes u buy the sp21?
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post Sep 21 2010, 05:36 AM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Sep 20 2010, 10:45 PM)
I just string apacs string. its 67mm. i forgot wats the name of the string.
its rm25. anyone know any idea on wats the name? i forgot to see properly coz was rushing. hahaha... lime colour...
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so despo to know the name ah bro icon_idea.gif

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