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All About Badminton Equipment v2, Racket, Shoes, Grip, String, Cocks
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Fantasia
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Sep 10 2010, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 10 2010, 02:10 PM) yupe..duno why yonex don't sponsor them anymore besides being different generations, the materials are different L50 and L60 should have similar frame shape while L90 has the frame similar to Victor BraveSword which cuts through the air faster actually beside head heaviness, what's the difference between T200, T50/T60? T90 cut air faster?? izzit something like z slash??
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alan kc
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Sep 10 2010, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(bayanbaru @ Sep 10 2010, 02:32 PM) no more yonex armotec for me as i broke 2pcs before.... U buy wat model? Added on September 10, 2010, 2:44 pmQUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 10 2010, 02:36 PM) actually beside head heaviness, what's the difference between T200, T50/T60? T90 cut air faster?? izzit something like z slash?? Z slash is swing faster,bs is aerodynamic,is cut air. This post has been edited by alan kc: Sep 10 2010, 02:44 PM
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Fantasia
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Sep 10 2010, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 10 2010, 02:43 PM) Z slash is swing faster,bs is aerodynamic,is cut air. i thought u need to be aerodynamic if u want to swing fast??
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melvin93
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Sep 10 2010, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 10 2010, 02:48 PM) i thought u need to be aerodynamic if u want to swing fast?? thats what i was thinking also..
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alan kc
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Sep 10 2010, 03:29 PM
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Hahaha...slayer z is slim frame..bt aerodynamic nt slim,its widebody or is aerodynamic.
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Fantasia
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Sep 10 2010, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 10 2010, 03:29 PM) Hahaha...slayer z is slim frame..bt aerodynamic nt slim,its widebody or is aerodynamic. still not really understand XD this what i understand about aerodynamic and speed. in order for u to reach better top speed (in this case, swing faster),u need to make sure the design of ur car is aerodynamic to reduce the air resistance so that u can cut the air... This post has been edited by Fantasia: Sep 10 2010, 03:40 PM
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bayanbaru
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Sep 10 2010, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 10 2010, 02:43 PM) U buy wat model? Added on September 10, 2010, 2:44 pmZ slash is swing faster,bs is aerodynamic,is cut air. yonex armotec 300 (made in japan)!!!!!
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alan kc
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Sep 10 2010, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(bayanbaru @ Sep 10 2010, 04:02 PM) yonex armotec 300 (made in japan)!!!!! Thats quite fragile racket..and at700 too..and also exp. Added on September 10, 2010, 4:23 pmQUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 10 2010, 03:37 PM) still not really understand XD this what i understand about aerodynamic and speed. in order for u to reach better top speed (in this case, swing faster),u need to make sure the design of ur car is aerodynamic to reduce the air resistance so that u can cut the air... U can try to see d pic z slash and bs10 frame..u wil notice that bs frame 2 side is sharp...then z slash is arn like box shape..slim frame is d frame heigt more short. This post has been edited by alan kc: Sep 10 2010, 04:23 PM
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Fantasia
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Sep 10 2010, 04:26 PM
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i think yonex's shaft quite solid while apacs 1 r more fragile. that day my T200 clash with my friend yonex racquet(i dont know what model) and ended up my shaft the outer layer shatter, cannot be used anymore however his racquet still infact
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alan kc
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Sep 10 2010, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 10 2010, 04:26 PM) i think yonex's shaft quite solid while apacs 1 r more fragile. that day my T200 clash with my friend yonex racquet(i dont know what model) and ended up my shaft the outer layer shatter, cannot be used anymore however his racquet still infact Nt all model of yonex shaft solid and durable.at 900,250,150,600..tis model mayb durable..ti model quite fragile.
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bayanbaru
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Sep 10 2010, 04:55 PM
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i think there is a design defect for armotec 300 as mine crack at the same spot...
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Fantasia
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Sep 10 2010, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 10 2010, 04:16 PM) U can try to see d pic z slash and bs10 frame..u wil notice that bs frame 2 side is sharp...then z slash is arn like box shape..slim frame is d frame heigt more short. they look different. but according to the description and 1 review about bs10, both serve the same purpose... any better example to explain?? i too noob to notice the difference
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ziggy87
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Sep 10 2010, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 10 2010, 02:31 PM) Coz indo nt a strong alrdy ma..easy thg..in business,u wan to push ur product by sponsor on famous ppl or nt famous ppl? if i'm not mistaken, hafiz hashim, chan chong ming, chew choon eng etc etc still sponsored by yonex they more popular or kido/setiawan more popular? Added on September 10, 2010, 6:52 pmQUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 10 2010, 05:49 PM) they look different. but according to the description and 1 review about bs10, both serve the same purpose... any better example to explain?? i too noob to notice the difference  actually to me they have the same purpose both tech will produce faster swing This post has been edited by ziggy87: Sep 10 2010, 06:52 PM
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alan kc
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Sep 10 2010, 06:54 PM
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Ok...if u put d 2 racket 2gether,then u look at d side of that frame.do u notice that z is more slim..bt d 2 side of that frame is box..then d bs frame more fat..bt d 2 side at d frame is sharp shape..so can cut d air.box shape cant cut d air bt bcoz slim u can swing it easily.
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Fantasia
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Sep 10 2010, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 10 2010, 06:54 PM) Ok...if u put d 2 racket 2gether,then u look at d side of that frame.do u notice that z is more slim..bt d 2 side of that frame is box..then d bs frame more fat..bt d 2 side at d frame is sharp shape..so can cut d air.box shape cant cut d air bt bcoz slim u can swing it easily. so basically both technologies serve the same purpose also right??
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hamboldt
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Sep 10 2010, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 10 2010, 06:54 PM) Ok...if u put d 2 racket 2gether,then u look at d side of that frame.do u notice that z is more slim..bt d 2 side of that frame is box..then d bs frame more fat..bt d 2 side at d frame is sharp shape..so can cut d air.box shape cant cut d air bt bcoz slim u can swing it easily. With the slimmer side frame doesn't reveal that it will have faster swing speed, each manufacturer have their own design for the aerodynamic frame as they need to consider the material used, inner strengthen material, the power generated by each design and etc. But each design serve the same purpose, faster swing speed and satisfaction of the players... If you want to know which can swing faster, you will really need to have both racket, hit a shuttlecock with the same person with a speed gun, but the results still will have little non-conformance error due to not every hit will be the exactly same...
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alan kc
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Sep 10 2010, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 10 2010, 06:49 PM) if i'm not mistaken, hafiz hashim, chan chong ming, chew choon eng etc etc still sponsored by yonex they more popular or kido/setiawan more popular? Added on September 10, 2010, 6:52 pmactually to me they have the same purpose both tech will produce faster swing Nope..jus hafiz use yonex only..chan chong meng and choo chun eng is sponsor by victor..coz they r nt play for bam..is personal d. Added on September 10, 2010, 8:51 pmQUOTE(hamboldt @ Sep 10 2010, 08:21 PM) With the slimmer side frame doesn't reveal that it will have faster swing speed, each manufacturer have their own design for the aerodynamic frame as they need to consider the material used, inner strengthen material, the power generated by each design and etc. But each design serve the same purpose, faster swing speed and satisfaction of the players... If you want to know which can swing faster, you will really need to have both racket, hit a shuttlecock with the same person with a speed gun, but the results still will have little non-conformance error due to not every hit will be the exactly same... Yup..hav to test it...bt slim shaft is easy swing for example changing position from left to right or up to down...aerodynamic is d timing u hit d shuttle more faster compare to box shape. This post has been edited by alan kc: Sep 10 2010, 08:51 PM
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ziggy87
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Sep 10 2010, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 10 2010, 08:47 PM) Nope..jus hafiz use yonex only..chan chong meng and choo chun eng is sponsor by victor..coz they r nt play for bam..is personal d. Added on September 10, 2010, 8:51 pmYup..hav to test it...bt slim shaft is easy swing for example changing position from left to right or up to down...aerodynamic is d timing u hit d shuttle more faster compare to box shape. ok just hafiz. so he's more popular than kido/setiawan? cannot be
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alan kc
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Sep 10 2010, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 10 2010, 09:04 PM) ok just hafiz. so he's more popular than kido/setiawan? cannot be Jus like wat i say hafiz is still under bam..u knw badminton association malaysia...yonex nt sponsor to hafiz,yonex is sponsor to bam..so if u r bam player u can use yonex lo..hahaha..
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ziggy87
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Sep 10 2010, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 10 2010, 09:25 PM) Jus like wat i say hafiz is still under bam..u knw badminton association malaysia...yonex nt sponsor to hafiz,yonex is sponsor to bam..so if u r bam player u can use yonex lo..hahaha.. means kido/setiawan not under PBSI anymore?
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