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post Sep 22 2008, 12:42 AM, updated 17y ago

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Old Thread Chubby Hamsters V10

~~ Credits go to Crazymouse

WELCOME to the new thread, Chubby Hamsters V10!
A hamster is a rodent belonging to the subfamily Cricetinae. There are 5 types of hamsters, mainly the Syrian, Winter white dwarf, Russian campbell dwarf, Chinese hamsters and Roborovski hamsters.

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SPECIES:

Syrians (Mesocricetus auratus)
They are the best known species in the pet industry. Syrians are also known as Golden Hamsters because the first domestic hamster was a wild agouti colour, which is called Golden. They have also been called Teddy Bears because does have the fuzziness and roundness of a teddy bear. Syrians are known as fancy hamsters of all the hamster species since they come in many colour varieties and also coat varieties... some can have long fur and some short fur, which we normally call Long Hairs and Short Hairs... also there are fur types like Rex and Satin.

The most important rule about Syrians is that they are SOLITARY... never house 2 together. If breeding, there is a way where you must put the female into the male's cage only when the female is on heat. It is very risky and dangerous to house 2 syrians together at any time since they are very well known to fight till death. So if you treasure the life of your hamster, never put 2 syrians together.

Syrians are large and comfortable to hold. They make suitable hamsters for the beginner keeper. Syrians that are handled properly would rarely or never bite, and can be tame to respond well to touch and voice.

Campbell's Hamster (Phodopus campbelli)
Campbells are probably the most popular of all dwarf hamsters since they come in many colour varieties that makes them attractive. The look similar to Winter White hamsters but they are actually different subspecies. So never mixbreed them.

Campbells are dwarfs... well, small hamsters. Please do not be fooled by petshops telling you they are mini hamsters and giving you a weird price and denying that they are Campbells. Anyway, they come in different colour and patterns but to breed, one must understand that hamsters that have any white spots or markings must never be bred together coz it can produce eyeless or teethless hamsters that die later... so if you were to breed, please read up.

These dwarfs may not be suitable for young children due to some dwarfs are bitey... and because of their small size, it would be harder for children to handle. Campbells are not aggressive biters, it is just that sometimes they will bite when you make them angry or startle them from their sleep.

Campbells are good in a pair or a small colony but always make sure your cage or tank has the space and enough hides and wheels to house a colony. These social hamsters are territorial and would fight off intruders that do not belong to their colony. Campbells are ok when they are introduced at a young age but letting an older hamster be kept with a younger one, most likely a fight would start.

Winter White Hamster (Phodopus sungorus)
WW are hamsters that can change their coat colour when we minimise their daylight. Their coats will change from their normal colours to a white coat but with their dorsal stripe and side arches visible. WW come in 3 colours, which are Agouti, Sapphire and Pearl. The Pearl do not change their coat colour at all, they remain in their white coat colour for life.

WW are different from Campbells, their eyes are bigger, fur is thicker, body is more bullet shape and their ears are less conspicious. It is easy to see the difference if a Campbell and WW were side by side.

WWs are nicer to handle for they have better temperments than Campbells. WW rarely change into their winter coats in captivity, so do not force your hamster to starve and stay in a cold room... this depends on the hamster whether it wants to change or not.

WW are almost similar with Campbells when it comes to pairs and colonies. Always remember, it doesn't necessary mean we should keep them in breeding pairs or male and female colonies. A single sex group is good enough for dwarf hamsters.

WW are known to fight among themselves out of the blue. Many do not understand that WW are territorial dwarfs, they can tolerate siblings or with other WW when introduced at a young age but there would always be a day where they would start fighting. Have spare cages at hand to separate fighting hamsters if you have a pair or a small colony. The best is keeping one. Do not worry, hamsters do not die from loneliness.

Roborovski Hamster (Phodopus roborovskii)
Robos are the smallest species of hamster. Adult Robos are only 2 inches in lenght. Unlike the other dwarfs, Robos do not have a dorsal stripe and they have slightly longer legs. Easy to identify from the size and also its sandy colour and white belly.

Yes, the smallest and also the fastest, this species is very well known for being very fast and active. So they are not very handle friendly since they are likely to jump or run off your palm. Many are really attracted by the facial markings, they appear to have "eyebrows".

Robos enjoy sand baths and a wheel. Due to their small size, one would need to purchase a glass/plastic tank to house them or purchase cages with small bars like the Habitrail Mini...

Robos do very well in little groups. They are the most sociable of all dwarf species and it is very entertaining to watch a small group of robos playing and eating in a tank.

Robos are not a hamster that is suitable for the beginner keeper as it could either be frustrating to have hamsters that run very fast or just unable to handle properly.

Chinese Hamster (Cricetulus griseus)
The Chinese hamster is known for their mousy looks. Yes, they were discovered in China long ago. Many people would say Chinese hamsters are hard to breed in captivity and are difficult to raise. Fighting problems occur so it is best to house them seperately. The Chinese hamster is also referred to as a "mouse-like" hamster because of its short nose, thin body, stocky legs and longer tail.

They do make great pets if they are bred by a proper breeder and have been handled often when young.

This species of hamster in Malaysia is very rare. The last known shop to have sold them were Pets Wonderland at Mid Valley years ago.

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VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

- Most hamsters do very well alone. Roborovski hamsters can be kept in small groups and best if single sexed but Syrians, Campbells, Winter Whites and Chinese hamsters are best kept on their own. They are always happier that way.

- Never breed hamsters if you do not have the space. Hamsters can reproduce every 20 days or so.

- Hamster fights are never fun to watch.

- Always remember to have food and water available. Never give too much fresh foods as it can give diarrhea to some hamsters, especially pet shop hamsters that have never eaten any veggie before.

- The bigger the cage or tank, the more comfortable for the hamster.

- Syrians need wheels that are about 8 inches in diameter. Wodent Wheels, Sanko Wheels or Silent Spinners have 8 inch wheels.

- NEVER keep different species in 1 cage or tank together... BIG big trouble there, may have some injuries, deaths... and possibility of mixbreeding Campbells with WW... bad idea.

- Hamsters do not have human emotion, they do not feel Love or have emotional feelings like humans. So there really is no reason to breed or keep them in a male and female pair unless you have a purpose as a true hamster breeder.

- Hamsters should have a small portion of fresh food everyday. Limit to a teaspoon a day for a Syrian, half a teaspoon of fresh food to dwarfs. Give more leafy veggies.

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Diet


Hamsters should have a good quality staple diet that is available for them throughout the day. Grains are important for hamsters to gain protein, minerals and vitamins as well as the good fat that the body needs to stay healthy. The carbohydrates and natural sugars from grains helps in maintaining your hamster's energy and alertness throughout the day. Wrong or unhealthy diets could cause hamsters to gain weight, show no interest in using it's running wheel and does little throughout the day. Here is a guide on how to feed your hamster healthily.

Try not to go for cheap foods that you see available in the market. Habitrail, Delikate, LM Farms.... all these have little nutritional value because they are loaded with sunflower seeds and dried corn. High in fat and phosphorus. Delikate and Habitrail staple food includes alot of alfalfa pellets (the greenish brown pieces) which hamsters do not like to eat at all and you may end up throwing it away. Choose high quality brands like:

Harry Hamster - it has quite alot of coloured pellets but quite nutritious and my hamsters eat everything.
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Prestige Hamster Nature - Loaded with top quality grains, pellets and dried fruits and herbs. Superb and nutritious for every hamster.
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Vitakraft Hamster Menu - Well rounded hamster diet, it has some dried veggies like carrots and peas. Better than Habitrail Staple diet.
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Kaytee Forti Diet Hamster - the ingredient list on grains and protein level is ok but one thing worrying is the preservative called Ethoxyquin, which is not good. Do not use this food in long term.
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I will update with more brands later.

Fresh food

Hamsters need a small amount of fresh fruits and veggies daily. Never give more than a teaspoon of fresh food to a hamster in a day as sometimes it can cause diarrhea. Dwarf hamsters, expecially Campbells should not be given too much fruits as Campbells are prone to get diabetes from sugary fruits.

Fruits: (Make sure all the seeds that are not edible are removed, grape seeds too)
Apple, Blueberries, Cherries, Cranberries, Dragon Fruit, Grapes, Honey Dew, Kiwi, Mango, Papaya, Peach, Pear, Plum, Rambutan, Star Fruit, Sun Melon, Strawberries, Watermelon.

Try not to offer too much sourish fruits like kiwi or strawberries, the high acid content can cause diarrhea if taken too much.

Veggies:
Alfalfa Sprouts, Asparagus, Broccoli, Bak Choy, Bean Sprouts, Capsicum(Bell Pepper), Carrots, Cauliflower, Celery, Corn, Coriander, Frozen peas, French Bean, Kangkong, Long Bean, Lady Fingers, Mustard Green(Sawi/Choy sum), Parsley, Peas, Pumpkin, Spinach, Water Chestnut, Water Cress.

Cabbage and cucumber can be offered but in very very small amounts.

Always remember, everything in moderation is good.

Supplement food:
Fresh Veges & Fruits Diet
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post Sep 22 2008, 12:43 AM

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post Sep 22 2008, 12:43 AM

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post Sep 22 2008, 12:44 AM

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It is often found that many people do not possess a strong reading and researching habit. Although there are often long and informative posts on the first page, newbies do not seem to read them and have to be reminded frequently to do so.

Here I have made some simple and short notes. I sincerely hope that newbies will take at least 5 minutes to read them.

Housing & Setup:

Winter Whites, Russian Campbell Dwarf Hamsters, Roborovskis and Chinese Dwarfs can be housed in the below cages as well as a 1.5ft Plastic Guppy tank.
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Syrian Hamsters need to be housed as below, with either an 8 inch Wodent Wheel or a 21cm Sanko Silent Wheel:
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Items needed:
- A right size of tank or cage.
- A wheel is MANDATORY.
- A water bottle
- A food dish/bowl
- A toilet (if your hamster is toilet trained, Syrians are easy to toilet train)
- Bedding: Breeder Celect, Corn Cob, Wood Shavings (no pine, no cedar)

Diet & Supplement:

Main Diet:
- Prestige Hamster Nature
- Britter Bunny
- Nutri-Smoothie (a Balanced Diet of fresh)
- Oxbow Hay Cake
- LC-Vit Syrup (Multi-Vitamin)
- Calci-Aid (for growing pups and nursing mothers)
- Organic Vegetarian Powder

Others:
- Rolled Oat
- Millets
- Sesame Seed
- Wheat Germ
- Buckwheat
- Dahl
- Pumpkim Seed
- Toufu
- Almond Seed

Note: Ratio of mixing Prestige Hamster: Britter Bunny; 1 bag(800gm) : ΒΌ bag(250gm)

BIG NO-NO food!!
- Chocolate
- Onion
- Garlic
- Cabbage
- Orange
- Pineapple
- Grapes
- Coffee
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post Sep 22 2008, 12:45 AM

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Hamster Event & Gathering

Gathering:

QUOTE(sangels @ Nov 5 2008, 07:05 PM)

Added on November 5, 2008, 7:00 pmCalling for Fatsoso owner: rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

Hipo - anderyna
Hercules - IcedNyior
Bolster - vergas
Noisie - Mikelim2020
Mainie - shayne
Nottie - Babymoli


I'm thinking of having a gathering for all Fatsoso owners and invite Mama Foo to see her products after about 3 months of re-homing. I'm sure she misses them so much by now and wanna see them as they are so much bigger since she last saw them. PLEASE give me feedback so that I can arrange place (Hopefully Pet Shack agree to lend us the place tongue.gif ) as that is the place where all Fatsoso being separated from their 'family'. I'm hereby to ask all the owner to PM me if any questions or suggestions regarding this event. You always can put up your suggestions here.

For other hamster owners and 3rd batch Fatsoso waiting list candidates are also welcome for the gathering with your hamster (if you want). Come join us for the fun!

SUGGESTION: icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif

Date: one of the Saturday in December (pls list down which Sat you are available)
Time: 1pm - 5pm
Venue: Pet Shack
(to be confirm with the owner)

- please edit this post with your name and available date at below as reply-

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post Sep 22 2008, 12:46 AM

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post Sep 22 2008, 12:48 AM

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WELCOME TO CHUBBY HAMSTER v11!!!
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post Sep 23 2008, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Sep 23 2008, 01:58 AM)
haih.. my hammy still dun wan do sand bath.. she is dirty.. is there anything i can use to clean her?
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try to manual pour sand on her body?

QUOTE(erikachen @ Sep 23 2008, 08:57 AM)
hi there...
can anyone teach me how to introduce two hamsters which stay in different cage? how to make them stay together?
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what hammi u want to intro?
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post Sep 23 2008, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(jovyn @ Sep 23 2008, 12:04 PM)
hmmm, nobody answer my question previously....sad.gif

wat is "untreated timber"? is it save to use as bedding for robo? unsure.gif
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untreated means no chemical. but still it doesn't maans save for small animal. cos timber itself contain chemical may harm the small fela who sleep in the bedding. smile.gif
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post Sep 23 2008, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(jovyn @ Sep 23 2008, 12:58 PM)
erm, i jus bought "chipsi" brand bedding, wanted to clarify is good enuff for the hamster?

btw, i most people feed the hamster "green ball food"....wat is that?
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chipsi, delikate, vitakraft is fine to use smile.gif
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post Sep 23 2008, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Sep 23 2008, 04:24 PM)
black not syiok lor XD me, not the hammy XD


Added on September 23, 2008, 5:58 pmWAhaha.. just cleaned my xiaobai (lil white), now she is xiaobai again, not xiaohuang (lil yellow).. and she can sleep on the sand, even if i cover her with sand XD

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lol that is cute... like enjoying sleeping on the sand huh? go sea side lol...

QUOTE(athirah88 @ Sep 23 2008, 10:15 PM)
i guess so... nod.gif I think he hates red, either that or the bowl was too deep for his liking... He only topple that
bowl, i changed to a blue shallower bowl, he doesn't topple it.. sweat.gif
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if he do it again. get a heavier bowl
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post Sep 24 2008, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Sep 23 2008, 11:34 PM)
anyone here using hay cakes? What do hamsters really do with it? Trim their teeth or eat it as a snack?
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mine don't eat other hay, but hay cake smile.gif

QUOTE(jovyn @ Sep 23 2008, 11:40 PM)
wow, thanks anderyna rclxm9.gif
2molo i go to town petshop to search for it. as nearby petshop onli sell scented (aplpe) chipsi bedding.  doh.gif
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try use the original one.. perfum not good for them smile.gif


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post Sep 24 2008, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(MooMooMilk @ Sep 24 2008, 11:14 PM)
Hi, as I don't really know much about bedding, I've been using Chipsi Green Apple for some time alrdy. Will my hamster fall sick becoz of this bedding? If I change to Chipsi Classic after I finished the Green Apple 1 will it be too late? Hope you guys can help.
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its ok to use as long as its not ellegy.. u can finished it only buy the classic one.. smile.gif
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post Sep 25 2008, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(MooMooMilk @ Sep 24 2008, 11:25 PM)
Thanks for ur reply smile.gif How to know whether they are allergy towards it or not? I regret buying that sad.gif
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not so worries lah.. if u really worries. dig out the potion u need to use 1 day b4. the perfum will go away smile.gif

QUOTE(hiroko_jiayi @ Sep 25 2008, 02:16 AM)
I am curious about our some dailor forumer's identity  tongue.gif

is Nezu a nutritionist or biologist? how come u know so much about those nutrition thingy and even the ingredient of the bedding ohmy.gif (which that i still dun understood tongue.gif )

is jtl the lady boss of petshack? biggrin.gif
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lol i am not smile.gif read n reserch more will do smile.gif
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QUOTE(ballista10 @ Sep 25 2008, 09:07 PM)
bought a packet of briter bunny today.. so cheap + hamster luv it.. though i think it is quite funny to give hamster , rabbit food.. haha.. put 3 pellets for each robo + 2 spoon of prestige everyday (1/4 briter bunny: 1 prestige)~ really following the recommendation which is recommended here in the forum.. ;p once in a while give them a bit white egg.. only cant use smoothie since my hostel dont have freezer to keep he smoothie fresh.. lol..
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britter bunny is not a good staple food for bunnie though.. it more like a supplement for them too.. so do hammi. we only need their biotin n beta carotine smile.gif that is why only 1/4 pack can be mix in prestige.

jovyn


1. im feeding them prestige staple food, after 1 day i found that they onli eat all those "kuah chi"...let over thoose hard food....so they dun like it or it is to too hard for them to chew?
lower ur amount, feed less, so they hungry they will eat all of the food.

4. jus one day, my hamster cage got some "sour" smell edi.... is it my corn cob bedding not absorbing well or the hamster pee?
its the corn cob smell smile.gif

5. last question, if take photo with hamster...can use flash o?
yup but not too near smile.gif


QUOTE(transit @ Sep 25 2008, 11:53 PM)
I am new to this thread.
My new Ham adopted from my's honey's LYN fen. They are now about 30 days+2. 2nd day with us.  thumbup.gif

Their new house and food pack
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Ham in wheel motion
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Ham in Exercise Ball
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cute hammi u hv there smile.gif
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post Sep 26 2008, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(jovyn @ Sep 26 2008, 01:45 PM)
ahhh, due to my nottiness...i wake up my hamster....try to play with them...i got a big nice bite on the finger...doh.gif
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always call their name b4 u kacau them.. slolwy they will learn smile.gif
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QUOTE(MiJaH @ Sep 29 2008, 12:26 PM)
our syrians are really weird..
we have 6 n we used to house them together in 1 cage..
but they get along reaallllyyy well..no fight.. ohmy.gif
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if ur cage is real small.. then no point to fight..
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post Sep 29 2008, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(MiJaH @ Sep 29 2008, 01:09 PM)
Err..our cage is the biggest hamster cage sold in Petshack.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(MiJaH @ Sep 29 2008, 01:34 PM)
the daddy is 7 months old..
big lah..need both hands to hold him..
the other 5 is 2 months old..
size about 1 palm..


Added on September 29, 2008, 1:36 pm

oops.not the zoo zone..
the usual cage but really big one.. tongue.gif
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lol sorry i hv no idea the biggest in pet shack is how big.. photo photo...

ur really big can me my really small wor LOL... photo photo.. rclxm9.gif u hv to know 6 syrians... the basic for 1 syrian is 2 ft tank... 6 syrian means 12 ft ohh.. wink.gif
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post Sep 29 2008, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(edwinlcw @ Sep 29 2008, 02:32 PM)
is 1.5ft enough for a syrian?
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nop at least 2ft, cos u need an 8 inch wheel smile.gif
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post Sep 29 2008, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(MiJaH @ Sep 29 2008, 03:13 PM)
U said syrian hamster cant put in a same cage..
u said it will fight with each other till death........ unsure.gif  unsure.gif
but my hamster looks healthy everyday....
they play with each other .....so cute wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif


Added on September 29, 2008, 3:16 pm
nak kasik daun ape... hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
kari ke?? tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(MiJaH @ Sep 29 2008, 03:37 PM)
I do the same way like you so the hammy will not fight but... sad.gif
but someone said they will be stress .... doh.gif  doh.gif
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pray hard for ur pets..


Added on September 29, 2008, 3:57 pm
QUOTE(Helena1509 @ Sep 29 2008, 03:21 PM)
kasi dia cili padi la. brows.gif hahahhahahaaha
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QUOTE(Tortoy @ Sep 29 2008, 03:21 PM)
bagi ler daun kangkung sekali.. brows.gif  tongue.gif


Added on September 29, 2008, 3:23 pm
jgn ler bagi cili padi..bagi ler Chicken black pepper. confirm hammy u ingat sampai bile2
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this is nonsense.. newbie don't learn.. thanks.

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