Which should i choose, im a more pvp oriented kind of person, ive studied both class and i have listed out all the advantage and disadvantage of making both characters but i just cant help it knowing that mage is cool and complicated as said by jas, so what do you guys think? Which should i choose? Also which is the best class for 1-70 sprint and which realm is suitable for me?

druid is harder to play, if your the type that like to support people go for druid... healing, buffing, attack,.... zzzz

mage is easier since you just need to spam attack and run if the mob chase you. and you don't have to give a damn about other people buff and hp...

anyway since malaysia line sux. a laggy healer = bad choise

warrior

i lol'ed

Agreed. Big hit.

whats with a warrior, so druids a bad choice ? what do you mean by laggy, as in spike lags or the delay? i might as well go for a mage, ive read about warlocks having a lot of hp but theyre not versatile like mages,rogues or druids. I like spellcasters.

I think just try rolling a character and level to 10. Then hit WSG and u'll see the different gameplay.

Side topic : Your signature . Try dungeons in WoW and you add another thing that DoTA doesn't : getting 5 people to work together to complete an instance. But I can tell you now that with your DOTA mindset, you might not make it in WoW and find it hard. Treat WoW is a completely new game and just enjoy it.

Isnt wsg like mass pvp, why a level 10, i cant be hurting no level 70 right? I cant wait to get my starter kit, im so excited. One final decision to make as to which realm im going to play, i dont have friends who are into wow and im not going to play with my sis as she has her own guild with her schoolmates.

My 20sen:

PvP support - Shaman
I like the things being done to restoration shamans. They have more backups instead of just direct heals, can now decurse and polymorph. A lot of new abilities are purge bait, including top-end priest talents, so shamans who balance offense and healing will be formidable. It is more of skill-based class - harder to master and very frantic, but potentially more rewarding. Druid is easier to play, but has lower skill cap. Up to you.

PvP melee - Rogue
Rogues are arguably better than warriors because of repeating WoW trends. They traditionally are underpowered at the beginning of expansion, then progressively get stronger until becoming the top class (top class in S4 today). Rogues have more defensive outs, are less prone to CCs/kiting than other melee classes, and versatile enough to play in a lot of team compositions. The downside is they are extremely cooldown-dependent, so if you run out of timers you have to reset the fight. Upside is you can execute a lot of impressive combos, it is one of the more skillful PvP classes.

PvP caster - Mage
Mage has the most complete toolset of all caster classes. Defensive outs, kiting abilities, WTFburst combo, crowd control, mana recovery and spammable instants. My favorite class is the warlock, but the warlock has almost no outs against melee zergs, whereas mage has a lot of anti-melee tools. The main bane of mage for 2 WoW versions, the Felhunter, has been weakened considerably next expansion.

Warsong Glunch : 10 vs 10. Take the enemy flag and bring to your base. Lvl 10 to start.

Arathi Basin : 15 vs 15. Hold Node (there's 5) and be the faction that gains 2000 resourcess. Lvl 20 or 30 to start.

Alterac Valley : 40 vs 40. Destroy towers and kill the enemy boss. Lvl 40 to start.

Eye of the Storm : 15 vs 15. Combination of Flag + Node holding (4). Be the first to get 2000 resources (flag contributes to resource goal). Lvl 60 to start.

For each BG, there's a lvl requirement : Lvl10-19 in one, lvl 20-29 in another. All these BGs are generally short term PVP.

Try Thaurissan. Relatively save PvP server and you can also check out LoTH. They accept leveling characters.

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Added on September 15, 2008, 11:29 amRead wowwiki.com more.

This post has been edited by myremi: Sep 15 2008, 11:29 AM

god your 20 cents blow on rogues.

the "trend" with rogues is the opposite of what your saying. they OWN a LOT at first then tend to suck later on due to bad scaling. arguebly after NUMEROUS patches on TBC, with the complete subtlety tree revamping allowing rogues to competitively scale through gear along with other classes (read: faggot warriors). those said talents, mainly comes from deadliness, and sinister calling, not to mention hemo is already a flat % based dmg as opposed to SS's flat raw dmg, and the fact that it has better energy per CP and better dmg per energy, AND has no positional requirement.

and top class in s4? no. S3, MAYBE, and thats due to the short lived glory days of AR Prep. its legacy only carried on with shadowstep + sinister calling and deadliness scaling. and of course, cheat death.
http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/all/all/all/all/all/
http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/2/all/all/all/all/
http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/3/all/all/all/all/

check all the brackets, on avg warriors are beating rogues in their game (both being physical melee classes)
http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/player/all/all/all/all/
individual table

HAI DRUIDS LOL

With a level 60 mage experience under my belt , I can say that if u want to roll a mage, be prepared to have a mindset where u don't ever want to get touched by melee if you want to succeed. Unlike other classes where their main defense is armor (passive defence) , the mage survives with an active defence capability.

This means that you have to actively counteract other classes with spells and abilities, much more so than any other classes since mages have no healing ability whatsoever and have the weakest armor.

You are a favorite target in battlegrounds amongst other classes, even against other mages since you die easiest and deal damage the hardest (I leave that part up for speculation) .

More often than not I keep hearing that mages are the hardest class to excel at, since each class you fight requires a radically different approach. Using the same strategy to kill a warrior as you would a priest will get you killed more often than not.


P.S Dota is by no means an "MMORPG". MMORPG stands for Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. Which means you control one character in one world where there is usually hundreds, if not thousands of people playing in the same world at the same time .

Dota is a custom map/game mode made for warcraft III that got popular.

This post has been edited by slickz: Sep 15 2008, 12:29 PM

It's natural that, using all internet proof, we defend the underdog status of our favorite class. Heck I play a druid (badly), but let's look at it objectively. I don't like to argue with you, it always turns into sweaty a$$rimming and non-lubricated penetration.

Melees especially rogues just tended to scale better as the current version goes to the final stretch. The trend is not only TBC but also vanilla WoW, good thing for clothies that there weren't many kingsfall rogues back then

here's one of the many internet proofs yarrr:
http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=37751

fk that shit just roll a rogue skillless class dont even need to know how to play 1 to own with it.

Well, druids are hard to kill if they know how to heal.

your internet proof is making a joke outta urself.
do you realize that gladiator's consist only like... 5% (IINM) of the arena population?

and EVEN THAT, look at the numbers urself LOL
i did mentioned maybe season 3 due to AR PREP glory days.

ur basically taking arenajunkies, protraying ONLY gladiator population, vs sk-gaming list, which draws WoW ARMORY DATA, from ALL REGIONS OF WOW minus china.
think ahead before spread misinformation. i am a person that follows on the pvp world actively afterall. (though the recent tourney is a HUGE LETDOWN, farkin WLD fest zzzzzzz NEED COM RMP PRZ!)

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Added on September 15, 2008, 1:38 pmgo ahead then /giggle

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 15 2008, 01:38 PM

If I remembered correctly, the AR/Prep was nerfed way before end of S3.

SK is kook though, if you click on many of the teams displayed, you get abandoned teams or placeholders.

wow i browsed through ur link and saw a rank 1 pvp player, a druid and warlock, does that mean both are the two top class. They are rank 1 in 2vs2 and 1 in 5vs5 with rating of 2400 and 2200

towards the end nerfing yes, but at the same time they buffed shadow step

also, despite abandoned teams, it is still more accurate than say, US realm gladiators ONLY statistic, dont you think? considering EU/US/Taiwan/Korea full teams are displayed on SK-gaming, statistic inaccuracy should be kept minimal

I know Resto Druid are OP in pvp but i love to play as a Boomkin in arenas lol.

restokin, considered resto anyways LOL

Spell Power in Woltk will make Resto into a more offensive type me thinks

Side Debate: What happens when Resto Druid meet Hunter + MS Warrior with equivalent gear in 2v2 if the opponent plans to get the druid first?

This post has been edited by shoduken: Sep 15 2008, 10:23 PM

u see quazacolt got no skill can get season 3 shoulders ofc u can do it be a winrar roll rogues.

it needs a faceroll on the keyboard to become a rogue

druid stay stealthed while teammate tear hunter apart with no healing LOL

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Added on September 16, 2008, 2:21 amthats warlocks

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 16 2008, 02:21 AM

yea u cant faceroll on keyboard might pop all cd

if u are like me, a person who prefers grinding than doing quest, roll a priest.

get spirit gears, spec into imp wand spec and spirit tap, take tailoring as ur 1st prof (for spirit based craftables) and skinning as your 2nd. u can be 1-70 in roughly 7 days /played and 5k richer.

PW:shield, SWP 1 mob, wand until its 50% hp then pull another 1. rinse and repeat. profit.

just make sure u get the best available wand from the AH at your curret level. the jaina wand can last quite a few levels too!

S2 locks

lolwut?

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Added on September 16, 2008, 8:06 ams1-s4 locks still could just roll people via face rolling keyboard. so long your face rolls the tab button often to tab dot lulz

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 16 2008, 08:06 AM

his main out gears your main and your alt <3

auction house im going na need a lot of gold, are those s1-s4 gears auctioned, if that is it my main priority would be just to get gold. I dont like priest,their like healers and they heal, i want something really offensive.

Hunter

DO NOT ROLL HUNTER
THIS IS FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT
SRSBISNES

rogues are the best for offensive.

Heh, S1 - S4 are auction. LOL!

Hmm....think you spend about a few days reading up. Takes awhile to digest the information but no, S1-S4 gear aren't on AH.

btw dont waste your time reading guides on how to lvl just download a addon called "questhelper" it shows u the location of the quest and also what u need to kill and also the time it will take to reach there very good addon i only use that and omni cc during lvling it will help u time when can u kill more then 1 mob and would save u ton of time.

This fellow must have played too much those typical Korean/Asian MMO where the best gear need cash/money.


Shadow priests melt faces in raid. Many raiding guilds are looking for good shadow priests.
Well, not so sure about WOTLK though. (the new 0.5% regen changes)

That depends; the question you should ask is "what kinda of play style does YOU like best? What do YOU want to be?" there no point of we tell you to level to 70/80 resto druid when you hate being healer in raids/arena/bg.

Since your mind set on PVP and caster ther choice are now shorten to 4
they are:
1) Druid (in Boomkin Form, they expect you to cast heal overtime spell from time to time)
2) Shadow Priest (people still expect you to heal though, Note:you CAN"T heal in shadow form)
3) mages (ALOT of people gonna ask you for water before anything begins)
4) the "misunderstood, kind heart" warlock (we are still misunderstood and people hate us and we are NOT OP)

almost forget
+ 5) Elemental Shaman? its count as a caster, right?

if you want easy, go hunter, they are easy to learn easy to level, but really hard to master.

study this playstyle from youtube, WOWwiki.com, etc, only then you know what you want to play.
after that you need to study what build you like.

P.S. what faction do you want to join? the Alliance? or the Horde?

This post has been edited by Imbecile: Sep 16 2008, 07:08 PM

Elemental shaman is kinda painful to play against melee heavy teams.
Even with 4 set bonus, pushback is still a serious issue for them.

But i think they have the potential to rock with the changes in WOTLK.

I know. Rethinking staying shadow after reaching lvl 80. Maybe dabble in Holy as a healer and see how.

Good thing is that can do 25-mans w/o having to gear up in 10-mans.

IMO you should just play what you want to play, don't think too much and don't get too influence by others' opinion(I am not telling you to not listen to them at all).

Shaman is WoW on hard mode.

For a look at more global arena statistics, you guys should check out:
http://www.arenajunkies.com/rankings/

Check out the amount of Chinese teams at the top lol

To OP:
If you're interested in arenas, druid would be a good choice because just about every popular team setup in 3v3, besides RMP (rogue, mage, priest), has a druid in it.
As a mage, if you follow American trends, your team choices are more limited, basically limited to RMP if you want to be at the top.
If you look at Chinese teams though, you can see they have a lot of WMDs.

Anyway, the expansion will probably change everything, so just play what you like more lol.

goto ming's blog lol, hes spreading china propaganda on sk excluding CHINAH POWAH lulz

=edit=
btw, have you noticed the hidden meaning of Warrior Mage Druid ?

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 16 2008, 09:47 PM

"W"eapon of "M"ass "D"estruction... GOOD 1!

Just choose a dps class, healing and tanking is really boring ( mayb its becoz i rolled a pally ........)

Some of my observation.....(strictly a nub's thought)

Rogue....

even if you are loosing a fight u can go 'poof' and hide in one corner, put auto run and go wall humping. After doing that call ur best friend/boy or girl friend up and chat about <insert fav topic> until the other team quits.

If you are feeling adventurous, wait for them to split up to hunt for you and u can reappear and sap the daylights out of them. oh u dont need to reappear to sap..sorry. Either that u can go to the forums and download / copy the cookie cutter combo and kick those clothies from outland back to elywnn forest. mages have iceblock so stop for a while and polish ur sword/dagger while u wait for them. Also the fear factor. Make sure you dont miss a beat in your combo execution.
Just make sure all ur cooldowns are up before attempting the above. Repeat all you want.

Laggy days are bad for epeen...so go farm herb or something. or green allies...heard they taste good

*not a rogue*

Next huntard
*While Grinding*
Get a macro up send pet in, sting it and call ur best friend/boy or girl friend up and chat about <insert fav topic> until mob dies. If grinding 'green' mobs pull 2-3 mobs to make it more 'interesting'

PVP
PPL complained about the huntards being OP until Blizz introduced the ultimate huntard killing feature Pillar humping!!!!!

Why play huntard?
[Aspect of Ninja] - When activated all party members are forced to pass the moment the huntard press greed or need on any loot. 20 mins cooldown
(no worries blizz make each boss about 30 mins apart except in ZA timer run where u do get to loot the 4 chests within a 10 mins time frame(if you are successful), but a blue has stated that Blizz is currently looking into it.) If u spec surv for looting, you confirm get 2 loots out of 4...see the bear mount, pop the CD and all CDs are refreshed

*not a huntard either*

haha yeah, I do go to Ming's blog. Its a pretty good place to check up on latest arena/tournament news.
on WMDs, I'd like to see China use WMDs against US in tournys lol


It's hard to say which classes are good to roll as now since expansion is in like 2 months.
ATM the strongest/most popular arena classes are druids, rogues, warriors.. locks, mages and priests do fine,
though mages and priests are usually stuck with RMP. Paladins, hunters and shamans are almost non existent in 3v3 though paladins still have a place in 5v5.
3v3 might be faster for arena points then 5v5 though, shorter queues and a lot easier to get 2200-2300 rated.

For 3v3s, the most popular comps in the US are WLD (Warr, warLock, Druid), RMP (Rogue, Mage, Priest), RLD (Rogue, Lock, Druid) and cleave team which is 2 melee - Rogue, Warr, Druid..
When you're at the top, most of the time you'll prolly face these comps. But as long as you play a reasonable comp that's not retarded, 2000 rating should still be no problem.

If you're playing with a bunch of friends, play a warrior and get them to heal & support you. Pat's 3rd video is out, it should give you an idea what a fully-decked Warrior backed by dedicated healers can really do.

mage.

meh, just play until lvl 30. That's pretty fast to level up and get to know the classplay.

Then decide what you want to do.

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Added on September 18, 2008, 11:09 amone thing that i really want to try is a shockadin. need to lvl a pally past lvl 50.

This post has been edited by myremi: Sep 18 2008, 11:09 AM

i hope u die choking on your own vomit.

Never tried mages before but I am hearin' that currently their mirror image are the pwnz in Wotlk

Druids would be better cause of their versatility I guess. Mages are just a DPSer.

Then again its all a matter of playing style. Why not try both 1st


(Then it'll be Time Stop for the next expansion lol.)

This post has been edited by ChaosXP: Sep 18 2008, 04:51 PM

Yeah Jas2davir, I know how you feel....you did not roll a huntard...is not too late though so you dont have to go suicidal, just reroll one huntard...

Play a hunter if you like being solo most of the time.

errr kusacow my main is a hunter.....and its not as easy as you say even my high ratings arena warlock friend who some times arena with me and make so much blody noise tryed my hunter then said "wah so hard la" not easy as ppl say it is thats why hunters are rarely seen to own the top 2v2 and 3v3 brackets

ok im rolling a mage, a horde mage, i might pick undead cause theyre cool and all dark or maybe a blood elf cause they pretty but faggish looking. A tauren spellcaster is just weird cause their big and horde and troll just really dont cut it, imagine a brutal looking orc in a pink suit ,thats just weird.

So which one ud or be?

Undead. It's like having an extra pvp trinket lol. BE's aoe silence can be very useful too.

But an undead should be a better mage.

This post has been edited by khelben: Sep 19 2008, 05:05 PM

i think they are going to nerf wotf during expansion what i overheared some ppl talking in vent :/

yup..wotf getting nerf in wotlk

No immunities. Just break fear/charm.

yeap thats why I said blizzard introduce the ultimate huntard killing feature Pillar Humping :-)

But u have to admit leveling a huntard is easy mode.

Jokes aside Huntard = easy to play hard to master

druid, close combat. mage , range

wrong druid can be range also can be support also

i guess you never see a balance druid with 4k starfire crits

Lol,i thought u hated WOW and bowed to Dota.or so of one of the threads ive seen you in.

go for drood
easy to pawn n camp lowbies even in their own cities,
mage? cannot run punyer, guards will catch u

drood. they cute, they furry, and in wsg you just need to either chase flag or heal.

unless you like vending machines

hey! vending machines are t3h cool k?

wow quaz seems to get a bit touchy whenever anyone talks about rogues. regardless of it being a praise or an insult.

touchy touchy

welcome to last week

my post outdated jor, they just nerfed the rogues and shamans liao

well, its just an observation, its not just from your posts that i have seen it.

not much nerf wut, just dont go lolsub now. LOL

since lolstep cant be performed during roots, and loldance is just lolmuch.

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Added on September 24, 2008, 4:51 pmyou are talking to someone that played the same Undead rogue with the same facial setting and hair style + color since EU closed beta and US open Beta and WoW retail until now.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 24 2008, 04:51 PM

i see. and point being?

go figure then.

no

k

spammer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxZAk1VTtpk&feature=related

my pvp video >.< kinda crappy but cme and see

urself?

OK stop the argument in a thread started by dotards

get a room u 2

but its on page 5

orly? so observant

new resto druid 51 points talent beta build 8982:

Summon Pillar(s)
Instant cast
Auto humps the pillar(s)














on a serious note tho, rolling a druid for wrath is kinda interesting despite flourish/WG being nerfed hard currently QQ

why?

if they add a talent: grow forest

then it could really be interesting.

i hate boomkin in arenas, i hate resto druid in BG..ppl said mage can pwn them but i have no idea on how to counter them..

all green peace member rolls a resto/balance druid, and none of them are skinning profession...

omg then there will be 100 pillarzzzzz

stop arguing for now..sit back n relax, just wait for wolk..peace then

No!

Honestly lah, nothing much to do while waiting for it to launch

i start off with an undead mage because of the goth and emo looks, also because they look cool.

nah trolls are better their ulti are stronger then undead.

Blood Elf Priest : Hey Troll mage, do you mind giving me stack of Ice Blended Mocha (water) ?
Troll Mage : Sorry, I'm fire spec'ed

i seriously belive Dota>wow any 1 agrees?

my mage is undead too. for me, i choose undead because their racial abilty. but troll also kick ass. things i dont like bout troll is their feet....

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Added on September 29, 2008, 11:37 pmno.wow is far better

This post has been edited by kakimasam: Sep 29 2008, 11:37 PM

Personal preferences but I can say that WoW > DotA.

of coz Dota > WoW

WoW originated from Dota, how can it be better, l2useurbrain pedobear

This post has been edited by [^-^]fumoffu: Sep 30 2008, 12:21 AM