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 AMD/ATi HD 4000 Series Discussion V4, Just added: HD4830 benches!

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post Nov 26 2008, 11:32 AM

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Any news regarding this:
Asus 4870 and 4850 Matrix Editions
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post Nov 26 2008, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(humanoid86 @ Nov 26 2008, 10:44 AM)
but gtx260 c216 is performing very well in most benchmarks...
i wonder will the 8.12 reli boost some gaming exp...at least regain its prev glory...
the 1gig even loses to c216 in higher resos like 1900x1200... sweat.gif not to say 1680x1050...c216 slaps 48701gb
here's a link to it http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,668254/...ard_HD_4870_GS/
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L4D,FC2, or COD5 is one of 5 games of nvidia selected game, that have performance advantage against HD4870 1GB.

nvidia did sacrifice IQ for performance in order to make their card looks better on benchmark sweat.gif
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post Nov 26 2008, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(Lacus @ Nov 26 2008, 10:45 AM)
nah, the Asus EAH2900XT biggrin.gif..freaking hot Monster!
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post Nov 26 2008, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Nov 26 2008, 11:51 AM)
L4D,FC2, or COD5 is one of 5 games of nvidia selected game, that have performance advantage against HD4870 1GB.

nvidia did sacrifice IQ for performance in order to make their card looks better on benchmark  sweat.gif
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so dat means dat..we're actually enjoying better iq with an ati card, but we have to trade it for perf...which is the other way round for nvidia cards..pls correct me if i got it wrong smile.gif
but the minor fps difference doesnt reli matter alot...imo it wont affect ur total gaming exp
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post Nov 26 2008, 02:41 PM

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....im not sure if ati will trade off the IQ for performance, or ati sacrifice performance for IQ....we will see at upcoming 8.12 later on.
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post Nov 26 2008, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Nov 26 2008, 11:51 AM)
L4D,FC2, or COD5 is one of 5 games of nvidia selected game, that have performance advantage against HD4870 1GB.

nvidia did sacrifice IQ for performance in order to make their card looks better on benchmark  sweat.gif
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again nonsense

i have both cards
and they are the same.

wonder how they brainwashed u to believe all this nonsense.
the gtx series doesnt have iq issues like the 9000 series...

sishh..
pikacu pikacu..
been watching ure post counts..

also
hmm those are the current latest games
do u want to compare 2 years old games..

funny larr u guys..
if the new games are nvidia optimized then too bad right..


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 26 2008, 02:44 PM)
again nonsense

i have both cards
and they are the same.

wonder how they brainwashed u to believe all this nonsense.
the gtx series doesnt have iq issues like the 9000 series...
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not brainwash, not nonsense, i see the image quality myself, source? go google it
i also have both card, both color variation isn't the same.
QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 26 2008, 02:44 PM)
sishh..
pikacu pikacu..
been watching ure post counts..
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yea, what's with my post count?
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post Nov 26 2008, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Nov 26 2008, 02:51 PM)
not brainwash, not nonsense, i see the image quality myself, source? go google it
i also have both card, both color variation isn't the same.

yea, what's with my post count?
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its the same...
no diff
u give me one game
and i will post both screenies eventhough its a hassle to install the ati driver again and take out the hd4870 1gb
or heck lets both of us post since u have both cards also..

will show u the difference my zotac gtx260 amp 2 and gainward hd4870 1gb

so name me the game..
currently in my hdd i have

far cry 2,
crysis warhead
spore
fallout 3
assasin creed
gears of war
command and conquer 3
unreal tournament 3
call of duty 4 and 5

will be getting left 4 dead and need of speed undercover next week.



the gtx260 series doesnt suffer the same fate as the 9000 series...
the iq are the same.
only the hd playback is still higher than the hd4870..
dont need to google.. cause i usually test for myself.
no of con reviewers out there is amazing..

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why don't you see the link on my siggy? sleep.gif
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dude...
use the latest driver ...

sishh u guys defend stuff that u cant even back up.
do u want me to ask raja to post here .
sishh june 2008.. review..

at that time even aa and af wasnt working for gtx 200 series..

lest post our result..
lets both do it..
tell me which game..
and we both post with gpuz screenies.. in windowed mode..and nvidia and catalyst settings.

lets for once back our claims.

so shall we..
name the game..

we both post since both of us have the card.

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pls post FC2 n Crysis Warhead.... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
i want to see d different in real time and thanks in advance.... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Nov 26 2008, 03:40 PM)
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pls post FC2 n Crysis Warhead.... notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
i want to see d different in real time and thanks in advance.... notworthy.gif
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ok will do it by today or tommorow...when i get back
another thing.

real time as in vid?? not possible as fps rate limitation...
can only do screenies

so pika.. lets do it.
since u also have a hd4870 1gb and gtx 260..

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ok bro...i just want to see d different and will decide then...
u r d man bro...thanks!!
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you mistaken my post sweat.gif

i said i have card from both party, nvidia and ati sweat.gif

i don't have 4870 / GTX 260

oh, so the review dated june 2008 is where gtx 280 AA/AF not working? laugh.gif

i see, thanks for the info

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Nov 26 2008, 03:45 PM)
you mistaken my post sweat.gif

i said i have both party card, nvidia and ati sweat.gif

i don't have 4870 / GTX 260

oh, so the review dated june 2008 is where gtx 280 AA/AF not working? laugh.gif

i see, thanks for the info
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how come change story

then what cards are we talking about here
1900 xt vs 7900gtx??
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were talking about gtx 260 216 sp and hd4870 1gb

u mean all ure assumption was based on cards that are outdated???


geee again
the aa/af was not working properly in june 2008 drivers...
y u think the current scaling of gt200 suddenly magic...



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my assumption were based on this : http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=356181

and this : http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=15552

and sorry, i din point to any specific card model


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but we are now talking about the gt260 216sp vs hd4870 1gb
so be specific...

its like telling all nvidia cards suffer stuttering issue

when only 9800gx2 and 7950gx2 suffers it.

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u post d result bro and we can learn that NV is not as poor as rumored...
and we will appreciate it bro....
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eh user teracore just now just just gave a good offer for my hd4870 1gb...
so hehehe. how..
if i trade with him today cannot post..

unless u guys can give me specific screenshot.. it makes life easier
give me example of where and when.. as long i have that stage
far cry didnt complete it as it was freaking boring and waste of my money

so if u can be specific tech_frix..
will post today the ati card first..
but currently on 2gb stick only ddr3
cant seem to get the 4x1gb on rampage extreme stable yet.. always hang..

my normal catalyst setting is this

change 3d to balance
then set ai catalyst to advance
and minimap to to the highest quality
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nvidia is normally
change to single monitor setup
change the quality to high..



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how bout d one that got some rock glithes...
i dunno where cuz neva play it before...hehe
but i think better u decide it...
pick the time that the render the most image...
that will be great bro!!!

teracore is buying ur card???
deng him!!!hehe

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