errrr sorry if i interrupt....

Before dis we can see and read.... when newbie post in this thread and ask about fool things or basic things about glider ( for hun maybe) automatically she come out give advise and say that say this, but when it comes like this BIG situation...... why she quiet.. like White palace said "we shall see what's her statement later." When later???

She supposed to have an answer for it, maybe not all answer , as long she come out, if dont have prove she can explain and show it later...

Melainkan have something behind it..

This post has been edited by sharil_routh: Sep 30 2008, 01:59 PM

u r rite bro...

for sure got udang disebalik batu....

It makes no sense to argue/resolve matters here in this thread, why not try to resolve the situation in Trade Zone Dispute Resolution Corner since it is actually related?

just an opinion

This post has been edited by HuonHengChai: Sep 30 2008, 02:04 PM

Welcome to the glider thread....HuonHengChai...

Yap, similarly, the one who started the accusation, why not he comes out and clarify the process of how he get the slurp, how he pack it, how he sends it over, how the courier medium handle it, how the lab treating the products for the 10 days?

Simple question, cyanide found. 3 possibilities:

1) The maker put cyanide into her own product.

2) The SLURP is contaminated if it is not handled professionally before, during, or after it arrives to the lab.

3) Someone wants to bad name Hun's product and put cyanide in it.

Which is the highest possibility?

3 parties MUST explains, not just one. Hazzy, lab, Hun.

Honestly, hazzy havent explains it properly YET. Udang di sebalik batu?

Or we all should just keep quiet and wait all these 3 parties to explain?

This post has been edited by White Palace: Sep 30 2008, 02:32 PM

why dont u all go out and meet and talk.
even can go straight to the lab again. to clarify things.
and get a few samples from other ppl who owns slurp.
send few sample there to get the results.

its easy to say... go 2 lab.. go 2 lab...

but dont 4get, it cost money also...

its easy to say than do...

Jon, u know how 2 say only...

but as I knw, pple like u wont do...

remember Evan Soon..??

u flame him kao2 bcos giving up on joey n micah last time...

u only know how 2 talk but wont come out n resQ joey n micah...

u say u r an animal lover... why dont u help joey n micah that time..??

dont just talk, man...

This post has been edited by tee_jay: Sep 30 2008, 02:51 PM

Simple question, cyanide found. 3 possibilities, its just a possibilites and can be true also.. :

1) The maker put cyanide into her own product.
Why maker want put cyanide if know bad for glider.... , except the maker do it unproper way, not wash the fruit, veggies, not throw out the seed, etc.... why the maker did that, is it becoz of the maker want it ready secepat mungkin, why the maker want to do dat, coz of profit or dont hav time maybe the maker stil study??? if the maker still study why not concentrate wit study??just the maker know , the true heart pet lover will do for it proper not because of profit but more for glider needs and they always good for glider. ya maybe she got an idea do a supplement for glider, but how it had be done now? haih... if the maker really not selfish one she will more concern for others not for herself..

2) The SLURP is contaminated if it is not handled professionally before, during, or after it arrives to the lab.
ya maybe..... and maybe not.... if the slurp contaminated like basi or whatever, dat the other result for it .. cynaide is other results.
Is basi same result when cynide being put result??

3) Someone wants to bad name Hun's product and put cyanide in it.
Who?? why do u think someone wan bad name hun? and why u also think someone wanna put cyanide in it?
How do u know?

Which is the highest possibility?
No need possibility here.... we need the truth

3 parties MUST explains, not just one. Hazzy, lab, Hun.

Honestly, hazzy havent explains it properly YET. Udang di sebalik batu?
Who knows.....


Or we all should just keep quiet and wait all these 3 parties to explain?
How we want to keep quiet if the maker still keep quiet without nothing explanation...

P/s = hazzy bought the slurp from fluff.... if u want to know how... he hav receipt for it... if u hun backupers i also can be backupers for hazzy..



is dis receipt from ur shop?

I'm sorry if suddenly i interupt, hazzy busy with his raya preparation..

This post has been edited by sharil_routh: Sep 30 2008, 03:05 PM

Yap, agree with you. That's why i'm here, just like you.

Basi and cyanide, different thing. But many places, many factors, can cause cyanide to be found, especially when we talk about such small quantity.

That is why it is important to know, how hazzy get the slurp, how he pack it, how he sends it over, how the courier medium handle it, how the lab treating the products for the 10 days?

If his statement is not convincing at all, and if he never appears to explain, then?

P/S: Memang get SLURPS from FLUFF lah, where else selling? You don't need backupers, i'm not worried at all.

BUT, the rest of the questions when unanswered.

This post has been edited by White Palace: Sep 30 2008, 03:06 PM

Again.. i'm sorry interrupt....

hazzy sent via courier in an ice box with ice inside...

and the slurp deliver there in one days..

This post has been edited by sharil_routh: Sep 30 2008, 03:09 PM

Oh my... The lab advised him to do so? Don't tell me it is through PosLaju

Also, the ice box with ice, can last how many days in freezing condition? He got consults Hun whether SLURP can be left 10 days without special attention or not?

BTW, thanks for the reciept image. I do have a copy here and the contact is here. It is useful incase we need it in future.

This post has been edited by White Palace: Sep 30 2008, 03:14 PM

contamination means to soil up or pollute something. Which means something else can be added into the slurp to contaminate it.

And the best way to prove something is to have scientific proof. Any other proof isn't good enough in this thread (as most are already mentioned). So she needs to investigate and find out for herself first before replying.

And the cyanide is 0.22 ppm. ppm means parts per million. not gram or milligrams. That is a seriously tiny amount. Probably can't kill an ant. So why poison la.

Besides, it's not fair for her. You are all accusing her already. Any other explanation will be useless.

A student has free time. What a student does for her free time is up to her wat. She chooses to use her free time to come up wit something that can help her own gliders and other people's gliders. Why you want to scold her for not focusing on just her studies?

Nezu is also working wat but she makes smoothie. The both of them are really caring for animals to give their free time and weekends to make all this stuff for theirs and other people's pets. I am grateful to them both.

So because it was a special service they did for animal lovers, I will wait and give her all the time she needs to be sure of what is happening and all the accusation. If it is really bad she will come up with an explanation at the end with an apology. But if her product wasn't bad, then I don't have to be ashamed of myself for pointing fingers.

And if the same thing happened to nezu's products (touch wood. Won't la), I will give her the same opportunity and the same treatment.

Again, thank you to you both.

You ask me how he get his slurp, then I tell you from Fluff and you reply "P/S: Memang get SLURPS from FLUFF lah, where else selling?"

If you already know from Fluff, why you ask some more????


I say COURIER la. And you ask again Pos Laju?

The product can last in a sealed ice box full of ice for two days.

If you don't believe me, you try yourself.

Once reach the lab, they put in freezer

Ask Hazzy then which courier.

Ask the lab to clarify he put in freezer.

Then only la fair ask Hun to explains as well.

The matter is, you can say anything, but Hazzy might not do it appropriately. Did he consult the lab how should he prepare the product for examine? How do we know Hazzy send SLURP itself there without any contamination since I can send anything written SLURP on it? If you want to believe him based on this, then what can i say.

Alright, enough for me for now. I already said whatever in my mind, it depends on you guys what's your decision. If you guys make it too obvious that all these posts are up to something fishy, then Hun is not at the losing sides, forumers are not that stupid. You might lost your credibility.

Goodluck.

This post has been edited by White Palace: Sep 30 2008, 03:41 PM

Thank you,
actually considering getting a pair of gliders but seeing that this is not the right time to read this thread since there is something going on,
I'll go ask uncle Google for now

Hope you guys can resolve this matter peacefully very soon

b4 u say anything bout me, do u know anything?
well, i bet u dont.
Firstly, i knew evensoon even b4 he get his glider.
i already tell him, dont get if he cant commit.
he told me he confirm got 100% commitment.
i told him, he will know.
then less than a week he gave up.
i flame him coz of his ego that time.
but me and him settled.
rescue them? i am an animal lover, but i aint getting gliders anymore coz i know i cant commit.
i know my limits, thats why i get something which need less attention example snakes.
i am an animal lover, but i use my brain to think whether i can or cant keep it.
i dont go rescue his joey and micah and then cant take care.
wat for?

i know it cost money to go lab all.
but again still syok wan argue here rite?
why dont do this privately?
go find hun ask her face to face rather than inside here making a big noise.
i am not into this shit or wat, coz it doesnt involves me.
but u saying me not helping evansoon, u better pm me for more details.

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Added on September 30, 2008, 4:06 pmand i never said i am an animal lover.
i love to keep them. thats all.
i would feed any feeders to my snake.
hamster, mice, rats, guinea pig, if u give me glider to feed, i would do it.
but hell no, i aint gonna waste my cash buying something that i am not into.
thats why i never get the SG from evansoon. hope i answer u clearly why i didnt help him.
he is a good boy and i believe his SG is in good hands.

This post has been edited by JonYeap: Sep 30 2008, 04:08 PM

Yang, you are just asking silly questions. All the glider owners are asking, is can she please explain about the Cal ratio and the presence of cyanide.

You mean Hazz must answer each and every one of you silly questions, then only Hun will come and answer?? This is absolutely ridiculous. Hun is the one who owes an answer to everyone here. If she feels she is right, come here and say something.

If wrong, then also come here and say something.

Don't hide behind Reanne, Jamien or you. It is not being responsible.

Although she is a student, she chose to sell this. So, she must also choose whether she wants to be responsible or just hide? The longer she hides, the longer she looks guilty..

If she is not guilty, she should be out here clarifying about her products. BOTH about the calcium / phosphorus and cyanide.

Good luck to u too yang....

why cant someone call hun and ask her properly?
she does have a phone rite?

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Added on September 30, 2008, 4:15 pmagree wit u..
if she is right or wrong, she have to step up and confront us..
its the best way to discuss..
so please anyone.. call her..

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Added on September 30, 2008, 4:19 pmselamat hari raye..maaf zahir batin..

This post has been edited by lilmissmuppet: Sep 30 2008, 04:19 PM

hi there...u may ask me..im not a so call pro..but have been keeping glider for 6mths+

will try my best to enlighten you

@white palace

for ur information, the calcium n phosphorus will not change even the slurp is spoil.
its pack in a 15in X 15in X19.50 ice box & fill up with FULL ice
it can at least last for 2 days 1 night with no problem
send by nation wide with charges RM 26.25
cos the cyanide can be careless or don't care that cos the cyanide
but the cal is the thing she should know n why she didn't add calcium in it
that is a purposely intention and not cos by careless


u guys want to follow me to the lab?
do u think its a kinder garden where u can play with their stuff?
sigh...


p/s:thank you sharil!!!

This post has been edited by hazzy: Sep 30 2008, 04:58 PM