hahah! why dont u ask white palace since he is 'mr know it all' or jamien?

Huh.....

Dats mean glider slurp just syok sendiri la.... promote itself as good supplement before dis and i being cheated? like dat?

Bonai, why isn't this thread fun like the good old days?

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Added on September 30, 2008, 6:51 amIs it?

but white palace new in small and exotic animal, can he answer it?

This post has been edited by sharil_routh: Sep 30 2008, 06:51 AM

Yes, you've been conned!
We've all been conned!
We put trust and spent our money and this is the repay to us..
No worries, just let it be..
Coz we all know, karma exist!

Yeah, this thread is no fun like the days before coz it's turning into a HUN & FLUFF thread..
So much boring with all the nonsense and money making politics..
We never promote our stuffs here right? Only they are.. what a shame..

Wakaka.. now this is fun!!! thank you hazzy for making this thread at least have hope for happiness..
Just wait till the 'tikusgila' armies come and take it away..

Yeah, he's new..
And it's obvious how he suddenly appears in this thread..
Only come here when it's for business purpose..
I thought this thread is for glider lovers..
That's what makes me confused..

For dogs, maybe he's well known..
But for gliders, I dont think so..

Maybe he doesn't belong here..
I heard he's a nice guy..
But all his post ah, I might think otherwise...

This post has been edited by bonai: Sep 30 2008, 07:03 AM

Errr...is it he come for business purpose?? i no comment, but yah.. lately he always come almost every thread i think before and after he open his new shop. I heard also he's very nice guy and friendly.

But wit all statement above... wow... make me impress..hmm a bit maybe.. is it from himself or someone wrote for him and he just follow the order and post in dis thread..

This post has been edited by sharil_routh: Sep 30 2008, 07:06 AM

yah, if white palace was as nice & friendly as people were talking about, I don't think he would post such thing.. I tried to poke his thread before but he replied politely even he PM-ed me..

reading his post here, I deeply feel that it's not him who wrote that.. yeah i truly know that there's so many politics here.. but who else could we blame.. it's just that if the post really come from white palace himself, then he's not as nice & friendly after all..

Anyway, enough about white palace..
kinda awkward..

OOppsss sorry... enough about it... nothing related between white palace and glider thread.

Hi everyone,

I would like to say something from a few difference points of view here. Please read it separately, and I post faithfully from my bottom of my heart. Because I know someone is always good in assumption. It’s all up to the reader to judge themselves.

animals will known as ANIMALS.

sorry Yang that I quote your post, I don't mean to quote you, I just want to quote the info in the post, Not against you.

- 20ppm cynide can kill ANIMALS in 4.5hours. we need to know the body weight for the ANIAMALS.
- no one know how much cyanide can Sugar Glider tolerate.
- less assump the ANIMALS in this statement is 10kg ( the ANIMALS maybe more than 10kgs, like lion, dogs and etc).
- Take the local Sugar Glider average body weight, should we say 90g?

10,000g (10kgs) - 20ppm
90g - 0.18ppm

* 0.22ppm is it risky to the Sugar Glider its up to your judge.

- Low dosage of Cyanide will not kill immediately, but it accumulates inside the body system. Say a Sugar Glider can live for 10 – 15 years, but it may die once the accumulation is at the fatal lever at 5 years. So stop asking if any Sugar Glider was kill up to date.

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Calcium : Phosphorus (Ca : P)
Put the Cyanide issue a side, think about the Ca : P ratio 2:1, this is same important to Sugar Glider.

Sugar Glider will draw their own calcium from their own bone when there is not enough calcium intakes from their food. Next they will be paralysis and die, its same harmful, again this will not happen in 1 or 2 years.

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As Suggie-Smoothie maker:
To declare the Suggie-Smoothie contain calcium supplement with the right ratio, I will send Suggie-Smoothie to the lab for test. Meanwhile, Suggie-Smoothie will stop selling and people who feeding Suggie-Smoothie, kindly stop feeding until the report is out. You are welcome to send the remaining Suggie-Smoothie in your freezer to the lab too.

For people who feeding Suggie-Smoothie, kindly bring your redemption card to Pet Shack to claim your free Glider-Cal supplement for 1 – 2 weeks supply, because during these weeks you will need calcium supplement as replacement for your Sugar Glider. Dosage will be advise while you pick up your Calcium-Supplement.

Thank you.

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As a responsible pets lover:

Please stop dragging in friendship in to this issue. As the prove is there, the lab report is there. I believe in the forum, White Palace know Crazymouse_yyh the longest, as they are school or collage mate, I know Crazymouse_yyh for about 5 years and I know the tester Hazzy for a few months. I only believe in prove.

The Sugar-Glider owners are waiting the explanations from the maker, non of us should/ can explain to them as we never ever can 100% confirm what are contain in the Slurp.

Start reading more about Calcium : Phosphorus (Ca : P) and Cyanide now. Its time for us to learn, no matter what you feeding your sugar glider, it’s for your pets’ good sake.

Thank you.

This post has been edited by nezumitaro: Sep 30 2008, 10:35 AM

Hi,guys...hmm,just wanna share my sugarglider pic with ya guys

Her name is GG




=)

waaa~
so cute~

cute suggie. but u need a biggest cage.. its toooo small for ur glider.

can see u love GG alot cos u trying to put alot of toy for GG. but try ur best to give GG a bigger cage lah

This post has been edited by nezumitaro: Sep 30 2008, 11:05 AM

GG ... cute...

i winder if i ca GG his suggie~

If your purpose is to notify the public for the health of the Sugar Glider, why only you post out only SLURP but not other brand that you did sent to analyse along?

Calcium and ph, yah, since you are the one posted, so what is it about? Did the lab told you that that level will harm a Sugar Glider? If they do, post up the official statement in black and white here, I would like to contact them if they do. Personally, i'm interested to know as well.

Why no one else should explains? You posted at a public forum. Meaning the public will see, the public will respond. If you do not want any other people to respond, then wait patiently for the PM. If I'm Hun, I might not even bordered to explain because the report is simply lame and doesnt indicates anything. All statements are written by you, who is not a nutritionist or analyser.

Why not post up the other reports of the products that you sent for analysis since your purpose is to notify the public? Unless your purpose is to bad name Hun then that serves as a reason.

This statement is from you yourself or the lab?

This post has been edited by White Palace: Sep 30 2008, 11:42 AM

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Added on September 30, 2008, 11:37 amErrr.... not understand what u were saying...

ca GG his suggie? whats dat?

This post has been edited by sharil_routh: Sep 30 2008, 11:37 AM

nothing la~

What factor that will kills your glider?

If not feeding SLURP, what do you recommend? Did any analysis like SLURP? At least as for SLURPS, i see a clear bill without the lab issuing any warning or statement saying it is harmful. I'm not sure whether you will recommend any other brand that SG lovers had not know of the analysis YET. It is heartless action right?

And sorry my bad for the red colored thingy.

P/S: Nothing personal towards you, but as you might prefer to side another side, I would prefer to side Hun at this case. As hazzy's post is not convinving at all.

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Added on September 30, 2008, 11:50 amWell i'm not the one who issued "official statement". Mind your words.

You do not lose my respect when you be-little me, but you lose my respect when you posted such an irresponsible post. IRREGARDLESS your are working adult or student. You should do something to gain back your respect, be responsible to what you did. YOU should be the one very next to Hun to do something. Calling Hun here YET not being responsible for your own post is plain lame. Don't turn your back and laugh at the one that escaping 50 steps while you are the one who escape first and already ran for 100 steps. (Yah, quote this at your signature, it is a good reminder!)

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Added on September 30, 2008, 11:54 amI'm never here since i open up FLUFF, until your post attracts me.

And yah, i'm not a nice guys afterall. One of my purpose here IS to promote FLUFF. BUT I NEVER FLAME MY COMPETITOR OR COMPETITOR's PRODUCT, that's for sure.

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Added on September 30, 2008, 12:04 pm

Fair statement nezu, I really appreciate that especially during this time.

I need your opinion here, since you had been fair. If it is yours smoothie brought to lab by a stranger like Hazzy, and the reports come out similarly to Hun's. Would you say it is fair for everyone to blame ALL your products is poisonous?

True, no matter it is SLURP or SMOOTHIE, if there is something which is lack of, we improve it. If there is something that shouldnt be in there, we excludes it out.

There aren't any proper SG diet as far as I know until Hun, then Nezu come out with SLURP and SMOOTHIE. Isn't it the owners are equally responsible for keeping a SG as a pet even without a proper diet? Now someone had taken up the effort to come out with some products, to us, we should appreciate. Any issue, we can discuss for the sake of Sugar Gliders. If we discuss in a "political manner" which obviously we can see Hazzy's purpose of the post, then it would be just unfair.

Stop asking why the thread turns into such a way, every post contributes to it, just be responsible to our own posts thats it.

That's why I ask Hun to start saving all the posts, cause many had been unfair and baseless.

This post has been edited by White Palace: Sep 30 2008, 12:42 PM

suddenly this thread full with word POISON lol..long time not "singgah2" here..

if anyone so scared ur sg get poison..just give cucumber and tomato everyday like me lah~ haihs..or try make ur own slurp ahahha..

u just give cucumber and tomato everyday???

U cant juz feed ur gliders tis thing la...Better read something about diet. Please find out the nutrition info of each fruits and veggies u wish to feed ur gliders...CAL:P ration must be 2:1. If u juz feeding cucumber and tomato, u may add in papaya for them so at least there is calcium for ur glider.
Pls do more homework abt diet...u may visit the tread abt diet written by JTL...is it? 4get the writer name..