Greetings to the community of Windows Vista users, I am planning to get an original copy of Windows Vista to upgrade my current Windows XP on my computer.

Here's the thing, I'm a hardcore gaming frenzy which plays all games old and new at the highest settings.

I was hoping to get some advice from the experience Window Vista users, how does the games old and new runs on Windows Vista, does it increase the fps with the latest features or will it spew out many problems like what i heard from other people.

Is it recommended for me to upgrade to Window Vista to play the latest games or just stick with Window XP.

I really appreciate the time reading my post.

Thank you.

old game might not be compatible wit vista. in dis case, u can't even launch the installer.

of, vista hav the benefit of dx10. game nowadays, only vista can use ultra high setting.

bt if compared XP & Vista in gaming wit same level of graphic setting, vista looses 2 xp in frame rate.

Just upgrade to Vista x64. kekeke!! 64bit is da FUTURE!!!

i play cs and dota fine with vista
cod also.

before u even know it.............
windows seven pop right out of the corner............

i suggest stick wit 32bit system 1st. vista hav 32 bit version.

Read.... Read!
My take on gaming on Vista. Gaming on Vista. Gaming. Vista. Game. Vista.

Reasons To Game On Vista [ Fully benefit gaming on Vista with 'Games For Windows' titles]

1. DirectX 10
Got yourself a shiny new GeForce8/9 GPU ? Then its most likely to be 'Vista Certified' meaning true compatibility
and solid performance on Windows Vista. Suggestions for DirectX 10 games - Crysis, BioShock, Company of Heroes. Beware, you will need a high-end rig (nothing less) to play DirectX 10 games in their full glory.

2. Games Explorer
Choose 'Games For Windows' titles - these titles assure you full compatibility with Windows Vista. Besides, it will fully support Games Explorer - your one stop for running games on your computer, with WEI score and links to the game website. Some games even have the menu options that take you straight to the configuration options window.

3. Xbox 360 Controller
The Xbox 360 Controller for Windows is the best gamepad you can ever have for a PC. It has the best feel and quality - its really really good. And its fully compatible with Windows Vista. No need for drivers. Most 'Games For Windows' titles support this controller.

4. Widescreen Gaming
'Games For Windows' titles should (and is a criteria) to support widescreen display resolutions. So if you have a widescreen display (which you certainly will want as Vista gadgets are placed on the right hand side of the screen), rest assured that these games support widescreen resolutions. Crank tat' resolution !

5. The future of gaming...
Halo 2 for Vista remains the one and only game that supports Tray & Play. Pop the disc into the drive, and you can have the option to 'stream the game and install' - - it installs the game while you play it ! Just like gaming consoles. Also, cross platform gaming (Shadowrun & Halo 2) is possible - - you can play in multiplayer modes from Windows opponents and Xbox 360 opponents.

6. Parental Controls
If you are a parent, feel free to feel relieved. You can lock/unlock certain games with certain ratings. So, if you're a good dad, you would lock GTA San Andreas from your kids. If you're bad, just say the blood in the game is just ketchup and let them play games with senseless violence. You can almost have a time limit to using the computer.. you can try setting a time limit on your ownself - that way, gaming will no longer be addictive.

Err... hail all parents !


Reasons You May Not Want To Game On Vista

1. Old games, compatibility might be in question
Old games (like Rise of the Triad) that use Dos mode may not even install ! You can always try to use compatibility mode but it may not always work. Most old games work though, but some still don't and won't. You will have to use DosBox or similar software to play your old games. Some games (circa 2000) that ran on Windows 98 / XP may not work in Vista. Usually its always the case of using compatibility mode, but that may not always work.

2. DirectX 10 / Performance ?
I question the use of DirectX 10 in games... Vista does it job, but there is just a handful of games that support DirectX 10. BioShock with/without DirectX 10 - almost no difference at all. Crysis, there is a 'tweak' that allows DirectX 10-like visuals although still using DirectX 9 mode (game creator Cevat Yerli says 'this isn't the real DirectX 10 graphics.... ???? ).

Also, not to mention the demanding resources when using DirectX 10 unless you have a high-end gaming rig. Expect games to be 'a little slower' in Vista compared to XP.

3. Games For Windows ?
Not all game titles are under the banner of Games For Windows. This raises the question - - why not ? Why won't game developers just get to this standard. Well, game developers Valve claim they have their own system even though it fully complies with all Games For Windows standards (widescreen resolution, Xbox 360 controller support). The Need For Speed franchise (and other EA titles too) has doged GFW altogether.... for reasons unknown.

As for me....
When Crysis was released, I wanted to shoot my computer. There goes my near 5-digit priced gaming system. It could barely make Crysis run at High. Forget Very High. And (for me), forget DirectX 10. I abandoned PC gaming. Windows Vista was part of the reason too - - DirectX 10 was all the reasons for me to keep gaming on PC, but this was the one thing that just didn't make me a happy gamer anymore. Its the future of graphics technology, right, but let's just say I'd prefer gaming consoles. So yes, I am a uber happy Xbox 360 gamer and I use Windows Vista on 4 machines at homes to play MSN games.

That's right. MSN games. Geometry Wars is my favorite.








Game on!

Choose your destiny of gaming...

MSN Games
http://zone.msn.com/en/root/default.htm

Games For Windows
http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-US/Pages/index.aspx

Xbox 360
http://www.xbox.com:80/en-US/




This post has been edited by defaultname365: Sep 1 2008, 01:15 AM

ok, TS, you go for Vista, you regret forever. Vista is the worst OS Microsoft has ever released to date after Windows ME.

Don't belive me? Just go youtube and type in 'Vista' then you can see everyone ranting about Vista and BSOD while gamming.

I tolerated with Vista for less than 1 month. I'm actually very patient because I bought original copy but just couldn't take anymore crap.

I truly believe post #6 answers it all....

Heck, I poured my 'true' advice...

what's the point of Vista when you can run your games at least 40% faster on XP or other platforms. So you spend 40% more on your hardware upgrades + the CD package just for the DX10??? Justifiable? Hell no to me.

vista not that bad la..people with negative thinking like u so detriment
cuz u only think changing vista = changing hardware
u talk like TS own a pentium R and onboard gcard rig.
u know TS is an extream gamer,ofcourse he own a nice rig for gaming,atleast maybe if change to vista only need upgrade gcard maa~
TS,changing to vista u wont lose anything,u still able to play games,
if u worry that using vista will derogate the performance then stick with ur windows xp

This post has been edited by fesick: Sep 1 2008, 06:24 AM

I believed, and still do, that 90% of people who diss Vista have never used it. And if they did, they already have hada fixed opinion about it after reading the varius reviews and comments.

But then again, i got the Win95 edition of Red Alert to run on MY Home Premium so i don't see why it's the worst. I'd say that XP was worse than Vista even when it was launched.

I used to think negatively about VISTA. Now, few days back, I've purchased the original VISTA RETAIL ULTIMATE PACK.

IT'S TIME TO MOVE TO 64bit!!! Thing's changes and there's bound to be improvements made to VISTA.

XP is still XP and it's a good OS but sooner or later, everyone will shift to VISTA or maybe Windows 7.

I thank all you experienced Windows Vista users for taking your time to read my thread.

After hearing your inputs, i shall heed your advice and stay away from Windows Vista, at least until the performance for Vista improves.

Dude... there's no such thing as performace for Vista improves. It was already better than XP when released.

If i can play Red Alert 1(Win95 version) on it, i don't see why other games wouldn't work. And besides, the performance impact is so minimal you're not going to feel it unless you're going to be so crazy over the extra 5-6fps.

This post has been edited by Aoshi_88: Sep 1 2008, 04:32 PM

Yeah Vista ain't that bad...Used to be a Vista basher ...but I've seen performance and benchmarks improve a lot...Go Vista if you've got the RAM and a good GC for gaming(most new GC's are quite okay).

BTW off topic but is Vista SP1 being sold at retail yet? Or do we still have to update after buying it?

heck - my old 1999 simcity 3000 still can run without a prob in vista x64

dont tell me old games cannot run in vista

and indeed new games such as crysis and cod4 run smoothly without a prob on my x64 vista rig.

a LGA 775 P4 or equivalent is enough to run Vista
1GB RAM is ok too
a GeForce 6200 or Radeon X300 is all u need

heck, i dun think TS has such an "outdated" rig if he's an extreme gamer...

40% faster on XP??? stop dreaming dude, it was at most 20%, and that's during initially release of Vista... and the main reason to that was that drivers were not optimized well for Vista at that time...

in that case, u'll be stuck in XP forever, cuz (as of now at least), DX10.1 and 11 will not be available on XP too, and we are starting to see some DX10.1 games pretty soon...

ya, Vista was bad, i dun deny it... but ve u tried Vista SP1???

reminds me of the time when ppl said the same thing for XP...

(dun go XP!!! u need a new rig for XP!!! 98 runs games so much better than XP!!! blah blah blah...)

try replacing XP with Vista and 98 with XP...

ok, all you Vista owners out there... have you ever got a BSOD when you halfway into the game and never saved your game

I get that like so freaking often I totally gave up on Vista.

By the way, my specs were like so good back then...

For me, I'd rather use Ubuntu if it's not for gaming but I like gaming too so I'm sticking with XP for now.

The only advantage Vista has over XP for gaming is DX10 and that's it. The rest are all burdens you may carry

BSOD means driver got problem (most likely)...

i can tell u that i never BSOD while playing games on Vista x64... at most game hang, minimized to windows, driver restart, then go back to games, continue to play... but that's when i was using beta driver...

This post has been edited by astria: Sep 1 2008, 07:34 PM

I still prefer to wait Vista launch their sp2 .

Fukken lol'ed
1 - Go google "Project Mojave". Nuff said
2 - Vista is better than XP in many ways. Out of the box it's more secure. It has better RAM management (on par with all UNIX system) and it was built with backward compatibility in mind
3 - Show me what game runs 40% faster than XP? I tested many games (I dual boot my system), and honestly, using the same setting I lost only 2~3 FPS. That does not count for 40%. Many sites exaggerates. And you tend to believe that.
4 - Never had a BSOD caused by the OS itself. The only BSOD i got was when my friend stupidly taken out my HDD without waiting for the PC to fully shut down. Thankfully vista's file management is better than any other Windows OS that my data survived and none corrupted. I want to ask you back, ever seen the "Cycle error reduncency check" in Vista? no? serve my point then
5 - Go read this http://www.tweakguides.com/VA_1.html

Just because YOU have a problem with it don't mean that everyone has. Majority of Vista users are happy with the OS. Only the minorities that overhyped it, and on the internet, the minority can seem like a majority when they use FUD to prove their point.

This post has been edited by linkinstreet: Sep 1 2008, 09:19 PM

Never had a BSOD as of yet.


Then you just keep on waiting. No one's going to stop you.

vista 64 bit great! windows xp will b legendary like windows 98 se.

Will Vista be legendary like XP?

so far so good. people complain slow but I'm using it on my X2 3600+ (yes, i downgraded........... for office / design usage only la. my E7200 is for gaming) and it is still fast!



word. I personally tested it with GTX280 and 9800GT and now on HD3200 - works fine!

the resource taken isn't so great until it hurts your gaming.

so yeah, my word for Vista here.



the only time i had BSOD was when I was doing overclocking.



word people exaggerate Vista. sure, there are problems like USB recognition and stuff but it's not on all hardware *touchwood* and computer gaming seems fine on it.

I've no problem gaming using Vista. Only some audio problem when using mic...

Vista has a new audio architecture which is an improvement over the old one (individual volume adjustment for individual programs for example)....

older games may have audio issues, but Creative has a program to 'upgrade' them to Vista level. Its called Alchemy...
However it only comes free if u own one of their X-Fi sound cards, else u gotta buy the software separately...

i just like to point out that this incompatibility is due to an IMPROVEMENT and not a reason it sucks...

it's awesome, and yup i had BSOD before but that was coz of bad driver, now ironed out nicely already..

Not the volume actually. Just that my mic isn't working properly when jack in. I can hear my own voice coming out from the headphone instead of other people hear.

Realtek has a similar software call 3D Soundback...

it's still a beta though, but is available for download...

so far for me on ultimate 64 no hiccup with full update and heavy gaming not even once bsod,except for when unstable overclock setting..
running on my siggy rig and love the sound on 5.1 system been using it from day one up till today without problem so far..

can some 1 teach me how 2 see weather my windows VISTA X64 is sp1 or sp2 or what i brought it from forumer and is a OEM version.............
is OEM VERSION and RETAIL version any DIFF ???

1 - There is NO SP2, just SP1
2 - OEM = 1 licence tied to one PC. Once you install it to that PC, you cannot install it to any other PC
Retail = 1 licence tied to multiple PC. Depending on what kind of license you buy, you can install it on more than one PC, bar that you can only install it on one PC at any given time

I used to always get BSOD wen i was using Tiny Vista. yes, it's a tweak version for slower computers.

After i upgraded to Vista Ultimate SP1 i hardly get BSOD anymore.

Vista doesn't only have the advantage of having DX10, Vista has improved many windows based functions, for example, Windows Search.
It's much faster comparing to XP.

Well' if you're a die hard XP fan then good for you. But do give Vista SP1 a try someday.

Currently im using XP SP3 because one online game i play doesn't support Vista.

I had a few BSOD with Vista.

The cause of BSOD is because of my failing hard disk.Nothing to do with the OS itself.

Hope no more BSODs.

I think if you get BSODs.It's probably bad drivers or something is really really wrong with your hardware.

Games,most of them runs fine on Vista.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Sep 13 2008, 03:12 PM

windows vista 64 user here..... no complain since beginning... before use dual boot after sp1 release i reformat my pc again and vista forever.... dont have any complain.... gaming all smooth.... TF2 120 fraps average in all high setting..... the interface is nice then xp.... xp suck..... i always get spyware using xp.... vista is more secure... other than i reformat becos i dun wan dual boot anymore i dun have any virus malware spyware attack anymore......

i prefer you stay with XP

Why you said so?
Proof why we should use XP when Vista is better for Gaming.
Just a few difference of FPS doesnt affect your gaming.
Personally i bashed Vista before but when i used it,I'm loving it.

HAHAHA...Go for Vista TS, dont even bother what all of this stupid Vista-basher...but 1st thing you must do after the installation is activate first, then run windows update..run at least 3 times windows update after your fresh installation coz there are many update need your PC to be restarted..this is to ensure you're not missing any latest update

Hahaha...everytime I found this kind of debate, it really amuse me. Vista already mature la. No longer half bake product as it use to be. Last year vista will gave your tonnes of problems but not entirely OS fault. Poor driver optimization, lack of support from 3rd party application provider and the list goes on. It happen everytime Microsoft change their major OS...but XP might doesn't suffer much because at the moment it was released, Win2000 (which the base of XP code) already released a year.

I am using vista since October last year. I hate vista at that moment but still insist to use it for the sake of knowledge and work requirement. But now, Vista is my primary OS. Vista 64 for lappy, Vista 32 for PC (only got 2 GB of rams for my PC ...huhuhu).

BSOD when gaming? Never. I always practice install stable release of driver, not beta one.

BSOD since SP1 release? yes, couple of occasion but that is perfectly normal right, when you never restart your OS for months. Only sleep and resume. I rate it as very stable.

Performance Penalty? That is last year story la kawan. All new application and drivers already optimize for Vista. Me and my blog members, we test Acer 4530 performance using 3DMark 2006...my vista score a bit higher than his XP score. Both got 4 GB of rams. So, I believe no more performance issue for Vista anymore.

If 3DMark06 could produce a little bit better result in vista, so, any games from that era should run fine in Vista. Only certain game such as CnC General, I can't play it as smooth as in XP (1 vs 7, brutal).

Direct X 10 worth or not? For gamers (if you dare to call yourself hardcore gamers), DX10 is a must. Previously I use 8600GT so, I can't really enjoy the real benefit of dx10 (especially for Games for Windows logo games). But after upgrade to 4850, oh dear. I love DX10 at every single side.

However, if your computer is single core, 2006 graphic card (mainstream) technology and less than 1 GB of RAMs, stay away from vista for gaming. But, if you have last year 3dcard or better, with 2 core (even pentium dual core will do) and at least 2 GB of rams, Vista will do wonders for your gaming experience.

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The funny thing is....most of the people I found (in real life) who bash vista are the one who never use Vista long enough or never use it at all. They just to love to bash it because other said so (Echo Syndrome). All PCs and lappy in my home use Vista, and my wife never complain or bash it. In fact, when I ask her, which one you prefer, Vista of XP...she said Vista. I ask her why? Easier to be used and pretty.

Come on la XP freak, next year when Windows 7 release, it will be base on Vista code also. If vista code is so terrible, how come Microsoft will use Vista code for Windows Server 2008 (read : Vista SP1).

Take this one...if a lot of actual vista owners said that their vista work fine, good in performance, secure and stable.... how come you could say vista sux, BSOD all the time...yada yada yada. It is either your seriously ahem 'don't know' how to properly setup and maintain your PC (with Vista), never use, rarely use or simply lack of knowledge in vista.

We are not fanboy. We are the user who felt the misconception of Vista need to be corrected because Vista worth it. If XP is better than Vista, why should we use Vista? I hove both Vista and XP license...but still choose Vista over XP.

He is hardcore gamer (ultra high setting at old and new title), of course la his gaming rig 1000 times better than me...and base on that reason alone, I full heartedly recommend Vista for thread starter.

Gaming with Vista seems fine , no issues just some minor drawbacks and I hate the whole visual experince (maybe I am too used to OSX and Compiz). I used to bash Vista , but after using it for my media center. Fell in love with Windows Media Center for Vista. Plays HD Content fine , records my ASTRO shows and it just does a great job.

Minor issues - You can't help it

To run Vista , you just need a 21st Century PC. If you can't afford or not willing to fork out money , remain with XP or better yet DIY with some linux distro such as ubuntu. The only disadvantage I would say is that I lost the EAX Functionality on my Creative Audigy with Windows Vista. But bah , thats just one !

Oh yeah , I can even run games which were designed for Windows 95 in Vista. No issues or what-so-ever , especially after installing SP1 !

this guys say he is a Hardcore Gamer who prefer old and new game


that is what the guys say...
in some case old game cant 100% runs great in vista

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Added on November 28, 2008, 1:28 pmi also bash vista be4 i use it...
but really ...
a lot of game i cant really play it in vista
i dont know y, my GTA SA graphic goes crazy...

This post has been edited by AlexLee277: Nov 28 2008, 01:28 PM

for one... i ve no problem playing Red Alert 1 on Vista x64...

new games @ highest setting... u'll need Vista... for DX10...

(in fact MS has updated to DX10.1 already...)

This post has been edited by astria: Nov 28 2008, 02:07 PM

when xp was out i bash it, when vista was out i bash it.

now im using vista x64 ultimate.

and soon i'll be going to windows 7's side.

ironically cod4, flatout and crysis runs better for me on vista x64 than my previous xp pro 32bit (these 3 games were previously installed on my xp and now in my vista x64, so i could really see the difference and slight increase in fps).

so far everything's good for my vista x64 except that linksys still havent release a 64bit vista driver for my pci wifi card.

other than that im happy and fine with it.

See, there we have a rational forummer. I agree with everything you say but I doubt we'll be bashing Windows 7 because I've tried it and I feel no difference except for better driver support?