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jchong
post Aug 10 2009, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Aug 10 2009, 05:04 PM)
dont take T55 la, take lower range abit.
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Lower than T55 would be T45, since he wants floorstanders.

But actually he can go even higher if he wants since his budget up to 5 - 6k.
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post Aug 28 2009, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(xrossf1re @ Aug 27 2009, 11:38 PM)
nonsense, SW150 can buang la,desa kepong selling for 1.2k only also nobody wants.  doh.gif
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At the end of the day it comes back down to an issue of price.

I think most people realise that for a budget around 1 - 1.5k you can only get an entry level sub. So they are persuaded to spend more to get better. So those entry level subs move slowly.
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post Aug 28 2009, 11:27 PM

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Yeah, A&L upsell you from PSB to Velo. Get you to spend more... biggrin.gif
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post Aug 29 2009, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Aug 29 2009, 10:59 AM)
sure or not?  unsure.gif
anyone who audition both before...can comment about it?
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You asked for opinions and Lone Wolf gave you his.

If you doubt his opinion, go and listen for yourself. In this hobby everybody's got their own opinions smile.gif
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post Sep 9 2009, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(C.T. Seong @ Sep 9 2009, 03:37 PM)
huh ?
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Maybe you should PM him to see where he bought from (might not have bought from you or your branch) and see if you can help follow up for him smile.gif
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post Oct 24 2009, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Oct 24 2009, 02:01 PM)
He got big klip as front la that's why I ask tongue.gif
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He upgraded to the PSB Synchrony One already a few months back.
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post Oct 24 2009, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Oct 24 2009, 06:00 PM)
Jchong is referring to Eugene...
Yup I was talking about eugene. Who are you talking about arremie?
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post Oct 31 2009, 10:30 PM

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What's the price of the Image T5? I suppose around 3k+ ?
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post Nov 4 2009, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Oct 31 2009, 10:46 PM)
i got a quote for the following package that i auditioned, 10k+. good deal or not

Marantz SR5003
PSB Image T5 floorstand
PSB c5 center
PSB Image B4 Surround
Velodyne Impact 12 sub
free Audioquest speaker cable for LCR and sub


Added on November 2, 2009, 3:23 pmno one have comment on the package?  unsure.gif
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Exactly how much did they offer you? 10k+ can range from 10.0 to 10.9k smile.gif I think you can still nego with them to reduce a bit more.

Also seems to me the sub a bit mismatched with the rest of the speakers. You have mid-level speakers there but entry level sub.
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post Nov 4 2009, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(C.T. Seong @ Nov 4 2009, 12:41 AM)
good deal !
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Of course you say 'good deal' since you're from A&L smile.gif
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post Nov 4 2009, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(C.T. Seong @ Nov 4 2009, 12:07 PM)
businessman like number 9999
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Is that a hint? smile.gif

Hey robertngo, see CT Seong since he can give 9999.

QUOTE(robertngo @ Nov 4 2009, 10:16 AM)
yes yes, counter offer please  laugh.gif


Added on November 4, 2009, 10:18 am

it is 10.5k, which sub will you recommend to pair with the image?  hmm.gif
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Actually I was going to ask you to nego down to 10k, but then CT Seong already hinted at 9999.

As for sub, try something in the 2k+ range and see. One the other hand, the Impact 12 did get 5 star from whathifi.com - http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Velodyne-Impact-12/ Do some comparison between say CHT-12Q and Impact 12 and see.
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post Nov 11 2009, 12:59 PM

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He drove you crazy or you drove him crazy? smile.gif
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post Nov 11 2009, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(cmw_kwl_6923 @ Nov 11 2009, 02:36 PM)
quite expensive if compare the spec between Dali, PSB T5 the higher frequency responding only 20khz,
Dali Lektor 6 frequency respond 27khz, the price any different between this two model? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Wah, you make a comparison based only on high freq extension spec? rclxub.gif There are so many other factors that affect speaker performance.
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post Nov 11 2009, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Nov 11 2009, 02:50 PM)
as i know human hearing only from 20hz to 20khz, unless you have superhuman ear dont think that make a different.
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So, then why people bother to buy subs that go below 20 Hz?
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post Nov 11 2009, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Nov 11 2009, 04:40 PM)
Correct. There are sub-audible effects which even though cannot be heard but still might be perceived. This applies to frequencies above and below the hearing threshold.

Hence, my point is that there is some value to reproducing freq below 20Hz as well as above 20kHz. Your earlier statement: "as i know human hearing only from 20hz to 20khz, unless you have superhuman ear dont think that make a different" seems to suggest that it doesn't make any difference going outside 20Hz to 20kHz.
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post Nov 11 2009, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(cmw_kwl_6923 @ Nov 11 2009, 04:41 PM)
That's why i'm asking the noob question, the frequency responding higher khz, it means the sound will be more details, even the sub woofer
can be performed as you mention 20hz, maybe you are expert them us, so need your advised to look for good speaker. notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif
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Speaker specs actually tell only a small part of the whole story. Many sound characteristics cannot be defined in a spec, e.g. imaging, soundstaging, resolution, smoothness, warmth, pace, bass tightness, etc. Also, higher Hz doesn't equal more detailed.

My best advice to look for a good speaker is go listen to it.
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post Nov 12 2009, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Nov 11 2009, 05:50 PM)
jchong, you have been Knighted  tongue.gif

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post Nov 12 2009, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Nov 11 2009, 08:07 PM)
there is currently no conclusive evidence that these sub-audible effect exist, it have not been determine how does the higher and lower range sound effect the human body. maybe it does exist but it sure is more expensive to get the hardware require to listen to sound that you may not be able to perceive.
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I think sub-audible effects below 20 Hz have been established. Owners of powerful subs will attest to this. Those above 20 kHz are more uncertain.

Anyway, certainly I agree that higher bandwidth hardware would be more expensive and it's up to each person to determine if worthwhile spending for it or not.


Added on November 12, 2009, 10:44 am
QUOTE(robinlim @ Nov 12 2009, 10:20 AM)
Bro, how do u feel on Synchrony One?
In your wish list for next upgrade? biggrin.gif
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Well, not thinking of upgrading main speakers yet.

But yesterday not fully able to test Synchrony One since ROTF probably not the best material to test mains (but excellent for testing sub). Next time must play some concerts, since I think material that is optimised for stereo is best for testing main speakers.

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post Nov 12 2009, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(hsiengloong @ Nov 12 2009, 10:47 AM)
Havign said that, i still puzzled why the Velo SPL 1200 can perform better yesterday @ Mr Ng's pad as compared to my place. Bass didnt sound so harsh and hard (fake) as compared to mine.
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I agree with ronnt88, it's the room. Mr Ng's place got carpeting and some thick curtains on the side - I suspect his wooden raised flooring also plays a big part.

EQ1 can help some, but maybe now you need things like bass traps also?


Added on November 12, 2009, 11:22 am
QUOTE(hsiengloong @ Nov 12 2009, 11:12 AM)
Sien lo, never ending like that...
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Heh-heh, this hobby never ends... biggrin.gif

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post Nov 13 2009, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(hsiengloong @ Nov 12 2009, 01:19 PM)
I agree with you on the dialogue part (have only pm-ed Mr Ng seconds ago about this). But could it be that Mr Ng has set the trim levels lower and thats why the dialogue its a bit soft?


Do you know if Mr Ng has run the auto-eq in his Pioneer AVR? That should set the trim levels automatically.

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Added on November 12, 2009, 1:20 pmOh BTW bro, dont need 2 crank vol on AVR, take the plunge and get XPA5 since got promo now smile.gif

300w @ 5 channels @ 4 ohms


It's even better than that, 350W into 4 ohms. smile.gif


Added on November 13, 2009, 2:07 pm
QUOTE(robinlim @ Nov 12 2009, 01:15 PM)
Not even in ur wish list? laugh.gif
Actually I brought along an audiophile CD thinking of using it to test the Synchrony One
but time not allowed sweat.gif
Have to find a day next time to test the stereoness of the speakers smile.gif
It's in my wishlist smile.gif

Yup, this calls for another visit to Mr Ng to listen to music/concernts.

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