i simply LOL at this kinda remarks.
u mean we can't get better management and organization?

heck, i've been playing MTG for i dunno how many years. the management of events (be it a simple qualifiers, prerelease, a Grand Prix or even a friggin PRO TOUR) is amazing. they dun need govt money or much support. and i know the singaporeans are jealous with us because Malaysia has been chosen as a stop for Pro Tour over them. in case you dunno, Pro Tour is an event where most superstar players come and play for the chance to win up to USD250000 in cash and prizes.

you guys should see the Pro Player's lounge they got in KLCC during the tournament. simply amazing.

if they can do it. why not in2?
MTG is a world class too..

i've been working in event's company for a few years before. i know it's hard. but all it takes is proper planning and execution. no bullshit. it's Event Management 101!!!

oh, in case you are wondering what kinda events i used to work on.. try Le Tour De Langkawi for 1999 - 2001 series, all event stops thru out malaysia including the road shows and the finale concert. that's how big the event i used to do.

there's a saying in event's management world, "if you can't do a good event, better dun do". that's what i'm saying to In2.

they are neglecting the core and key elements of the event, which is the gamers. it's sad to see there's not even a water dispenser for the players to take a drink from. not even a proper player's area. simply bad.

how to grow the community then?

This post has been edited by technophile: Aug 18 2008, 06:49 PM

pls visit http://my.worldcybergames.com/ & notice




its ok to try,but u nid to know when to pull urself out(edited to sound nicer)

This post has been edited by Timber2k7: Aug 18 2008, 06:46 PM

i don't think you can really compare a esports tournament to a card game tournament or le tour de langkawi

LOL. another brainless comment.
what's the difference then?

both require event management, both require sponsors, both are at a scale of grandeur.

simply put, PC gamers in malaysia are being treated like shit. like we are not important.

and MTG is not just a card game tournament, go to one and see for yourself.

yupz...i agree with u about the temp n hanging area. klcc is wayyyy colder than mv. in mv i dont hv to wear sweater on 1st n 2nd day. only wear it on 3rd day bcoz heavy rains making the temp slighly below my limit. n thats y i said...at least give us cheapo carpet to sit on. meaning it is welcomed to hv in hall food court during wcg. no need going out, missing game, and then disqualified. gamers can sit there n chit chatting, knowing each other better. how is it?

pak guard chasing gamers causes bad name on us. haizzz...mv got probs. klcc got probs. so where suitable? maybe in2 should co-op with PC Fair organizers. make both even run at same time so that more ppls come to wcg = attract more sponsors = better prizes = more free gives. huhu.....


then mv is the best choice is it? no other choice?

This post has been edited by Invince_Z: Aug 18 2008, 10:21 PM

Sunway Piramid 2? hahaha

How about Times Square? Just opposite Lowyat..

People are more professional and experience
And with that they can no doubt neglect how others feeling and judging at they are failing


As what i mentioned earlier, Hope some one willing to stand on opponent's boots to figure out what is happening
And i hope you should understand Malaysia's culture. When we gave them something and they will demand more
I am not 100% satisfied on the event but at least i know the organizers deserve some respect from the gaming community.
Rather than allowing you guys criticizing on them not doing this and that.

Kindly don't bring along kiasu and kiasi attitude to accuse people are brainless.

as a competitor, i have my rights and needs.
it's a matter of respect. if the organizer do not respect the ppl who make the events work, then simply dun do that event.
asking for respect back from ppl who have been treated unfairly sounds so... Malaysian rite?

i call ppl brainless because they seem not to think before they speak.
at what basis he claim that e-sports is different from card tourney and le tour?

kindly state the basis of the claims, prove and facts. then i will not call it brainless.
dun just pluck something out of thin air.

times square? that maybe one of the venue in list. lots of places to hangout, easily accessible and hopefully not too expensive (but i think mv is the cheapest 1 ).

This post has been edited by Invince_Z: Aug 18 2008, 10:25 PM

Well, it is after all video game competitions right?
E-Sports will never get the same amount of respect as sports like soccer and badminton because you just can't compare the amount of people who play physical sports to a video game. People who participate in E-Sports are usually Male. I'm not saying there are no females but let's be frank almost everyone who took part in WCG was a guy. Even if they open a females categoty, how many people do you think would actually join.

Let's not make a hype out of all this, I mean just look at Malaysia's standard in gaming, nothing spectacular right?

in malaysia maybe not.
in South Korea and US, professional gamer can make a living from gaming.

Well that's onlu possible because gamers there can do well internationally, if Malaysian gamers can win international tournaments then I think it's possible to earn a living through gaming. One of the few reasons why we can't do that is because the truth is that no one really cares about E-sports or gaming in Malaysia.

Take a look at Kingsurf the Dota Team, if you've heard of them you know that they are getting sponsors and are going overseas for tournaments etc They are getting more recognition and financial support because they are achieving what other people aren't in this country.

At the end of the day, I think you just can't compare Malaysia to other countries. You just can't

There is a fifa player in malaysia that manage to get into WCG World Finals top4 and also manage to win WCG Asian Championship twice....its not as bad as it seems=).

hmm.. 2 malaysians have finished 4th in MTG World's before.

one player (Terry Soh) also got a card printed with his face on it.

it's the corporate sponsors i tell you. they see gamers as nothing. frankly speaking malaysians have been doin well abroad when it comes to gaming. be it a card game or e-sports.

it's the public mentality too la.

flip open a NDSL inside the lrt, you will see some office chicks giving you the snickers. stupid..

si_jali? He lost in the 2nd round knockout.

Agree with u that the core and key elements of the event are the gamers. Let's not forget the game enthusiasts as well.

There are surely rooms for improvement for WCG Msia if they can take all the constructive critism into implementation and not to lament out tons of excuses.

There are however few improvement if compared to past WCG. Such as :-
a. Improvement of design of website. And updates for the before the events are timely.

b. Continuation of Free registration is commendable. Gamers participating in the event got a lot of goodies, how about game enthuasists that visit the event, any goodies for them?

c. Available of WCG T-shirts and WCG caps apparel for purchase. Visitors are therefore spared the usual embarassment of biding hundreds of ringgits just for a piece of WCG cloth (like the previous years). However, no receipt had been issued and no platics back to place the purchased apparel (as far as in Day 1).

Others aspect for improvement would include a gamers and visitors centred facility and well-informed information delivery system.

Lol, you should go and see the Samsung booth la. They can win handphone and mp3 players. Also goodie bags was handed out each day IIRC

I concur

Yeap.. he lost in the 2nd round, but the fact is he won 2 GOLD medal for Malaysia=).My point here is although he already did his part as a gamer but the gaming scene in Malaysia doenst improve much as it was hope for.
The problem doesnt just lies on da achievements of gamers but other factors as well=)...