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Competition WCG 08 Suxx.., WCG MALAYSIA

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post Aug 18 2008, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Soul-X @ Aug 17 2008, 01:47 PM)
The SC marshal told me on friday to reach at mid valley on 9am SATURDAY

But end up the marshal himself reach on 9.40am

Nice management indeed

My 1st match started on 1pm...

Damnit...

I only know CS time management is okay, as for STARCRAFT~ It sucks big time.... =_=
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you think cs time management is okay?
first day friday usually only double eli for top16 and 2 matches the most, instead, I came around 11am and finish my whole game until 9pm.
and 2nd day, I was told to come around 12 just to play my match around 7;30pm.

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post Aug 18 2008, 12:24 PM

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emo sial ko lol. For me I had the liberty to hear all about in2's reluctance to get sponsors from the outside because of what mentioned above. Sponsors wants something in return, which in this case sales. That's why in2 prefers to fork their own money. It might not be much but it's what keeps the game going.

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post Aug 18 2008, 12:27 PM

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Whoa, I have to agree with most of the competitors even though I'm not in the tournament.

Sorry to say, but some competitors (Malay mainly) complaining that they have to ffk their games due to their games was set during the Friday prayers. I know that the organisers are trying to finish up the game early but c'mon, be sensitive to others as well..

Plus, I sense that WCG have a lot of empty spaces within the hall itself. The booths are less eventful compared to CELGames. With more attention to sales more than the games itself, it more to World Cyber Sales...

in2 should have done better with a lot of experience in managing WCG Malaysia. But with this kind of calibre shown at WCG 2008, I'm not surprised if someone took other the hosting rights from in2.

Singapore has been successful in organising WCG 2005. Can Malaysia do the same if we are offered the chance?

Just time can tell...
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post Aug 18 2008, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(psychomuse46 @ Aug 18 2008, 12:27 PM)
Whoa, I have to agree with most of the competitors even though I'm not in the tournament.

Sorry to say, but some competitors (Malay mainly) complaining that they have to ffk their games due to their games was set during the Friday prayers. I know that the organisers are trying to finish up the game early but c'mon, be sensitive to others as well..

Plus, I sense that WCG have a lot of empty spaces within the hall itself. The booths are less eventful compared to CELGames. With more attention to sales more than the games itself, it more to World Cyber Sales...

in2 should have done better with a lot of experience in managing WCG Malaysia. But with this kind of calibre shown at WCG 2008, I'm not surprised if someone took other the hosting rights from in2.

Singapore has been successful in organising WCG 2005. Can Malaysia do the same if we are offered the chance?

Just time can tell...
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I doubt anyone want to fork that much money to get teh rights. If they wanted to they already did.

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post Aug 18 2008, 12:59 PM

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same complains every year...dont u guys understand

no sponsor -> no wcg -> u cant participate
you wan to participate? then juz get along with it...rather tat no wcg at all

once a year only, its not taking 3 months of ur time...only 3 days
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basically this thread is about constructive critiscm right.so lets try to keep it that way.
Luige's point on the same thing being repeated is spot on that no sponsor = no WCG.

However that shouldnt be a reason why they shouldnt improve next year right?

As one of the participating gamers in this WCG edition,I feel mostly satisfied with the organising party which did a good job trying to get things together. my team,Kilatgaming.my was treated well with the marshall helping us setting up prior to the match.

The things i felt need improvement would be :-

1) Information

the most critical part that I am pretty dissapointed is the lack of information us gamer can get from the organisers. I noticed the CS WCG board outside that shows the progress of the winner/loser brackets are practically empty and was updated slowly. The purpose of the board is to tell the specs what is going on and to us gamers,who we fighting next and stuff. Its not a tall order,just take a marker and fill the blanks.

Time management as some of our respective gamers has pointed up is not punctual. True they might be other factors that affect the time but its always a good thing to have a good rough estimation of the timeline. Maybe if they can tell us who we playing next it would have been alot better for us as we would have time to work our stratergy out
( IF there is any...LOL)

2) Gaming Arena

not spec friendly,thats all i can say.professional esports is not only about the gamers but also about the one who is watching like every other sports,they're the one that make the experience whole.I suggest more spectator friendly area next time for easier access and viewing to the games. I got friends coming from as far as perak to watch the games only to find they cant see much of it which make me feel sad.

thats what i can think off right now.kudos organisers.make next year better!


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its months of preparations bro...training,setting,discussions,strategies

btw,as far as i remember, wcg06 a lot more better than wcg08.

the down side:

01. venue.
why mv? yes i agree that mv attract ppls but only to those kaki shopping..why should they go all the way to 3F for wcg?. i think when they held it at klcc on 2006, there are more ppls going there compared to mv, i can c spaces. n i did saw ppls...but 99% of them are gamers.

02. schedule.
cant they publish the schedule (both gaming n events) at least 1 week earlier? those who ffk just dq them la (those who 5-10 minutes late). no need open slot for others what). meaning..less delay.

pls keep us update on the competition. asap. never leave the box empty ya?

03. game island:
no spectators frenly.make it something similar if not exact to NecrosavaNt's suggestion.

04. about gamers tag redemption:
let gamers redeem their tag on day 1 can r? many hv to ponteng school/classes just to redeem the tag....totally xhealthy liao. or they can post it to us,gamers. or make it like now, but gamers r free to redeem their tag at either tag redemption day or redeem it at day 1 before 12 pm. whoever x, --> disqualified. simple.

05. events:
dull. not having fun at all. hmm.gif

06. sponsors:
x really helpful in contributing the capital n the excitement of wcg. all focus on displaying their products hoping for after sales. r they thinking of wcg is the same as PC Fair? shakehead.gif

07. gamers w8ing area:
at least give us cheapo carpet to sit on.

08. gaming time:
announce our name n nick 10-20 minutes earlier can or not? n hv us gather somewhere to w8 for our turn. when the gamer x in queue when it is his turn, disqualified!! or just proceed to gaming n disqualify if more than 10 minutes or when all other players finish. make phone call/sms can? we did give u our h/p no rite?

09. announcement:
i cant hear ya at booth hall. make it "listenable" n "audioble" to all hall n if possible, on outside too. it is better if we have lcd screen to display who's turn is now n who's next. that way, gamers will be alert on the event.

10. promotions/information:
if u ever read pcgamer/gamesaxis, didnt surf lowyat.net/multiply.com, x a gamer/his or her family or relatives i doubt you know 1 single thing about wcg. make it public man....publish it on newspaper/tv/radio. be aggresive. where is Ministry of Youth & Sports when we need them?

11. tournament structure:
it is better to hv league of 8. then each 2/3 winner from each group proceed to kalah mati. no losers bracket pls..its confusing.

there's more..but i kinda 4got.later if there's any,i'll post more.

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sounds like just bad management and organization.


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post Aug 18 2008, 03:30 PM

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I found out a lot of people are a bit sarcastic.

As a participants, i think you yourself should figure it out more regarding on the competition.
Is your own responsibility to reassure the schedule rather than waiting people to inform you.
Kindly show some initiative and passion on gaming. Other gamers can just wait for the game but why you can't?


And try not to compare Malaysia WCG & Singapore WCG. Is different background and culture.
If you guys comparing Malaysia & Singapore WCG, what are the difference between you and those lousy politicians?
If you think organizing an Event is so easy, then why not you subscribe to organize the event?
Singapore is having government to support to push those major event which can boost their tourism society.
We are having a government to support when 'THERE ARE BENEFITS which BOOST their pocket notworthy.gif

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post Aug 18 2008, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Aug 18 2008, 02:01 PM)
01. venue.
why mv? yes i agree that mv attract ppls but only to those kaki shopping..why should they go all the way to 3F for wcg?. i think when they held it at klcc on 2006, there are more ppls going there compared to mv, i can c spaces. n i did saw ppls...but 99% of them are gamers.
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alot of people complain about klcc. i felt it was abit too cold and there's the problem of gamers hanging out area. there wasn't any place to sit or lepak inside or outside the hall. sit outside the hall, guard will chase us away..


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post Aug 18 2008, 04:29 PM

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wow ~ yeah i agree about this spectator thingy~

Anyway~ The sponsors only want $$$

They dun really care about how gamers feel~

Overall i dont mind anything, just that the time management... REALLY SUCKS! ARGHH

QUOTE(jetz @ Aug 18 2008, 10:31 AM)
you think cs time management is okay?
first day friday usually only double eli for top16 and 2 matches the most, instead, I came around 11am and finish my whole game until 9pm.
and 2nd day, I was told to come around 12 just to play my match around 7;30pm.
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*pat pat* ~ so cham... i dulan what u know? i dulan the marshal call me come at 9AM, But he ownself come at 9.40AM~ Somemore the doors for the hall open at 10.30... I came so early also dunno do what... My 1st match starts on 1.30PM... Sigh...



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post Aug 18 2008, 04:32 PM

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wtf! who ninja stole my team's top8 shirt!
ehuahheahhaaha
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QUOTE(MonRae @ Aug 15 2008, 09:41 PM)
sorry to blame the managent of WCG Malaysia but their not profesional in manage the event..This a few example the i not satisfied with the managment of the event..

1)The is lack of information about the game..
exp- the schedule is not same like the MARSHAL(the in charge of the game)
mean-FIFA08 start at 5.30PM..but their start play at 12.00PM..
        it is very not prefesional...
        If u wan make a QUALIFIYING at 12.00PM..u must make sure                    UPDATE at the SCHEDULE N GIVE the INFORMATION to the GAMER
NOT FOR THE MARSHAL..

That the reason i so very UPSET n Dissapointed with managment of the event..
This is a MALAYSIA CYBER GAMES is a prestij event..but the managment was VERY VERY POOR n Not PREFESIONAL..

thx.
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did someone con you into thinking your time was 5.30?
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lol some people just cant read
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u go find 1 event job and do then u know how was it, approach in2 and join them so u will see how their working
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post Aug 18 2008, 06:11 PM

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There is always unexpected situation which required the players to be around for their game.
If you are not, then kindly dun blame nod.gif

And seriously, hix and eru you both sux
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@Invince_Z: KLCC is smaller and cost more. Personally I would also loved if they did it at KLCC as it's within walking distance from my office but I doubt that they want it to be done there again with all the complaints it have

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