Basic Care Sheet For Scorpion


Why keep Scorpion?
- Easy management
- Interesting to observe
- Very cheap monthly maintanance fees
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Choosing a Scorpion
- there are alot of species in this world. However, in Malaysia we dun have much choice to choose from
- The best scorpion for beginner will be Heterometrus Spinifer (Asian Forest Scorpion) And Pandinus Imperator (African Emperor Scorpion)
- Both are very docile and have minor venom and would prefer2 pinch more often than using its sting
- When we want to buy a scorpion from pet shop, make sure its not a wild caught
- Wild caught scorpion tend to have mites infection and are more prone to decease
- Look carefully on the scorpion body, make sure there's no white color dot on it. They are killer mites that can kill ur whole collection of scorpion
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Basic Housing


- A small container will do for small scorpling
- Can change to 1-1.5feet guppy tank when reach adult size
- A scorpion's foraging territory usually is not very big so a big container is not necessary
- A community of scorpions is not recommended unless the owner is willing to take the risk of losing some
- However its rare for Heterometrus sp to cannibal each others
- A good hiding place, water dish, 2inch coco fiber/peat moss are necessary
- Add some pebble in the water dish to avoid drowning ur scorpion
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Diet


Scorpling
- Cricket drumstick
- Mealworm parts (Some can take whole small mealworm)
- Cricket parts

Adult
- Adult cricket
- Superworms
- Mealworms
- Dubia roach

Its not recommend to feed with wild catch insect as it might carry mites or being pesticide
It is best to feed insect with 1/4 to 1/2 the size of your scorpion
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Molting

- In order for a scorpion to grow, it must molt
- Every time a scorpion undergoes a molt it has gotten a little bit larger
- A scorpion's developmental progress is measured in instars (how many moults it has undergone)
- A scorpion will molt an average of 6 times until it is fully mature. After that, the scorpion will cease to molt
- In order for the scorpion to have a successful molt, it must be humid in the cage, or else the scorpion could get stuck in its old skin and die
- After the scorpion molts it will be a lighter color and will be very fragile, as the new skin is not hard yet
- During this critical time, you should not handle, feed pr disturb your scorpion in anyway
- The scorpion will not eat for a few days after the molt, and will probably stay hidden

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Handling

- A scorpion is display pets and are never meant to be handle at all unless if its necessary
- Scorpion should be treat with respect and the right attitude when it comes to handling them
- To handle a scorpion, there are few way:
1:Pick Them Up By their tail
- Use a tweezer to pick them up by the tail


2:Using a smaller container/vial
- Place a small container/vail in frong ur scorpion
- Gently push it into the container/vial



Venom
- All scorpion species possess venom. In general, scorpion venom is described as neurotoxic in nature
- Scorpions use their venom to kill or paralyze their prey so that it can be eaten
- However, envenomation by Heterometrus spinifer is similar to a bee sting in terms of the pain and swelling that results
- A sting on the thumb from a relatively non-dangerous scorpion often feels like the victim has accidentally struck their thumb with a hammer whilst driving in a nail
- Heterometrus species however, tend to use their pincher more often than stinging
- However if u are allergic to venom, its best to seek for medical treatment ASAP as it might be fatal

Source: Wikipedia







http://www.treknature.com/gallery/Africa/T.../photo31478.htm


V1 Link:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/212221

This post has been edited by super macgyver: Aug 23 2008, 09:38 PM

yeah i am 1st

congratulations on a new V! Long live the scorpions!

wah v2 is finally here already hahaha.....

Can't wait for my little one to get here. : D

Lol Yilaine, I ll bring few there let u choose the one u like
I notice some of them fatter and darker than the others
Probably will choose those for u

Btw, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!

what would a guy NOT do for a hot chiq...

abe's birthday today or the scorpion thread?

abe got new Xbox games ma? got oblivion?

Wah u are Taggy or the real smeelyocheese? O.O
Im selling off those fat fat one 1st ma
Her bday is yersterday, same as scorpion v2 bday lol

gosh guys are obsessed with yi laine. tsk. bad.

: D

Thanks for V2 super macgyver.

Moulting Picture : Hottentotta Hottentotta

tsk tsk tsk....scorpion thread buaya...

ironic that everytime i meet yilaine is not because of scorpions or T's...haha...used to buy loads of Xbox games off her...lol...

-.-'' U guys dun buaya with smellyocheese la = =

Want more pics, want more!

Whoahh thanks guys.

Ryo : Sure thursday right?

Connie/Andrew : Gooottt, mass effect you want? haha

what picture? yilaine's? or scorpions?

mass effect dowan yet. just bought oblivion...XD

can trade with scutilus scorpions or not?

Lol. No thanks. I'm gonna stick the that one baby afs from ryo.

It has to be only one cause I want it to be really special haha.

Anyone aside from Rafiq who has more than 1 species, do share your pictures and experience.

can i transfer my old post here ah? or ask mod to do it. lazy to repost ler...internet very slow...><

Do you have a male adult Jacksoni TAGGY!?

ermm..got...currently got 2 pairs of B. jacksoni. going to friend soon...why? you guys planning to breed them is it? lol...

@Yilaine
Actually starting frim tues im free ady
U can decide the day

Yes. i've got an adult female but no males. Can we work something out, please?

ermm...not really...so sorry...you can try others...rafiq might have. female not gravid? or popped?

Y so silent 1?
Every1 dead cause stung by scorpion? =(

Touch wood. That's not a very nice thing to hope for let be talk about.

beware and careful scorpion's poison sting,hehe..why didn't cut scorpion tail?

Why must we cut a scorpion's tail jazzkit?

because scorpion's tail gt poison sting

I'm gonna quote what Kar said in the Tarantula thread to you. TAKE A HIKE AND EFF OFF! Bring your bullshit elsewhere.

I don't blame you. You've probably seen that on Man vs. Wild(scorpion-eating scene). Cuting a scorpions tail off and keeping it as a pet would defeat the purpose of rearing one in the first place. We don't see people extracting the teeth off of their canines just because a bite could prove fatal in some cases. Learning more before posting would also help.

i think your arse and your brain are at the wrong place.

scorpion tails are only cut off of scorpions that will be made into delicacies to be eaten... To keep as pes, nobody cuts them off wan lar.

Thanks for your explaination,rafiqos & Jamien since yesterday night I started join lowyat forum,I'm such a fresh newbie and still need to learn many from you guys,you are the most kind buddies here...better than those who reach senior rank but don't know respect people and insulting me

I will promise learning more before posting

This post has been edited by jazzkit: Aug 16 2008, 05:01 AM

well, if you've posted with more respect and actually ask valid/non stupid questions no one would insult you. we're here to help. but we dont OWE you anything.

from your post above i'll just quote the guys.



learn to show some common sense. then ask for help.

jazzkit, actually its normal for ppl to think of cutting of their tail2 keep as pet
Even when i juz started with this hobby i actually tot they ll cut off the sting
But after i do research, i found tat if we cut off their sting they ll eventually die
Im nt sure why bt 1 thing for sure, their anus are located at their sting lol
U interested with scorpion? =)

Post moult : Hottentotta Hottentotta

Yup,RyoKenzaki you get my point,on their mind or 1st impression commonly people will think of cutting of scorpion poison sting tail2 keep as pet even you walk on the street do survey research ask 10 person and 9 person will answer like that..Yes I'm interested with scorpion and a bit "curious" on this species,buddy...hehe

This post has been edited by jazzkit: Aug 16 2008, 12:21 PM

Ic, do research and buy a Asian Forest Scorpion
U ll understand more and get addicted to it for sure =)

First and foremost, I believe in order to gain respect from others, one should first respect others. Spamming nonsense in my humblest opinion is disrespecting other hobbyist that are using the thread. Especially when you're spamming one liners like "creepy and this kind of pet not suit me.."

Secondly, if you are really keen in learning, I think first off is you yourself should do ample of research before actually concluding and posting insignificant thoughtless remarks such as "beware and careful scorpion's poison sting,hehe..why didn't cut scorpion tail?" That isn't exactly something that will make enhance your knowledge further. Try posting something like "do we need to cut off the sting off the scorpion tail before actually keeping them as pets?" I think that would allow you to gain more answers towards your curiousity.

As for your interest in keeping them, I would suggest you to start by getting an Asian Forest Scorpion or in other words, the Heterometrus Spinifer/Longimanus(scientific). They are the most common species here in Malaysia and are almost readily available everywhere. I do believe that there are some that is available for sale in our own LYN garage sales section too, try looking up.

However, before getting them, do google some basic caresheet/information about them. You can also opt for looking at videos or images before actually purchasing it. Here are some of the caresheets that I have found and I definitely do hope that it will be of great use to you.

Here are the caresheets/informations :

http://www.scorpionpictureguide.com/scorpi...-scorpion-care/
http://www.reptileallsorts.com/asian-scorp-cs.htm
http://www.petbugs.com/caresheets/Heterometrus-species.html

This post has been edited by Kar: Aug 16 2008, 05:34 PM

WOAH!!! ESSAY!!! Lol!
If wan2 buy AFS remember find me ya, kit
Im also kit btw

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Added on August 16, 2008, 5:39 pmBtw the pic in the 1st link u posted looks more like a emperor scorp for me

This post has been edited by RyoKenzaki: Aug 16 2008, 05:39 PM

fuiyo...Kar's first essay in scorpion V2...

Rafiq: how big your hot hot? Instar? and how many ya got?

Not exactly an essay yet, Ryo. You should see my ex-college's research folders, usually we had to like come out with 2000 words essays in a night. Our research folders are uber thick. I guess I got used to it and even now in my current college, I still do the same. Pretty hard to kick off that habit. And after being said, it does look a little alike. But I believe AES are far more robust than that.

This post has been edited by Kar: Aug 16 2008, 05:51 PM

Ok,i will pm you if i wan to buy scorpion:)
and thanks Kar...

This post has been edited by jazzkit: Aug 16 2008, 06:02 PM

still got confusion over AFS and AES...

they're easily told apart just by looking at their pincers.

I'm a cheapskate. I only have one. Still looking for other ssp. within the Hottentotta family.

From the pincher of tat pic, im quite sure its AES
Its broader than AFS and rougher
But body i dunno cause im nt sure hw does a AES body looks like
I heard its solid black?

i posted pictures of AES pincers in the old thread. go see it lar...lol..

Rafiq: no need males to breed ma the hot hot. wait for it to grow then 1 hot=many hot...

Yea. It's probably a female anyway. Most in the hobby are.

Wanna ask
Hw many holes did we need for ventilation
Izit necessary to drill the hole on top or the side of the container?

This post has been edited by RyoKenzaki: Aug 19 2008, 10:23 PM

I always do some cross ventilation on the sides. Air can go in and flow out in a two way direction.

Ok, i ll make it on the side then
Jz sold 3scorpling, 1taken by my sis without paying zzzzz
Tired, sleep now
2molo ll update video

Video of my scorpling


This post has been edited by RyoKenzaki: Aug 20 2008, 11:50 AM

OMG so cool.....
Stop poisoning me Ryo!

ryo, make sure u feed them enough. if not, they might kill their siblings. =.=
hows smiti by the way?

Take 1 home

Dun worry they are all well fed, i seperated them ady
I count their number everyday
Smithi very lazy, stay at same spot more than a week
Nt much news

welcome to the world of ts... they are like that. =.=
haha... except when eating.
by the way, i didnt read how many afs scorpling u have?

Wah ryo~ You really make me want a scorpion again. Maybe I'll take one or two if I go to wangsa maju.

I have 30, sold3 and sis took1 back yesterday
Remain is 26 nw, myself will keep 5
So still gt 21 for sale

Take 5 ma, 1 or two where gt enuff

More picture2 poison u all

My room right now with mess of container and coco fiber


This scorpling have injured tail cause i accidentally injured it when i place back the hiding place in the container
I name it L cause its tail always show L shape


This post has been edited by RyoKenzaki: Aug 20 2008, 05:08 PM

I plan for the future ma! The scorpions will have a nice big enclosure to themselves when they grow up. If ot, they will only have small small place to live lo. Can you sex a baby scorpion?

Swt i dun have microscope la -.-''

I have!!
Yer i want one...

Come la neshie, we go his house together, and sneak one or two into our pockts while we're there.

I think that's a great idea...
How big tanks do they need?

1-1.5ft when adult. AFS actually don't move much. My AFS back then, Clip, used to be in the same position, under the log, EVERYDAY.

OMG. ==" that's....very...unmoving. XD
yerr. My friend just gave me a nice plastic tank............ about half the size of a 1.5 ft tank.

Well, all they have to do is stay there and look cool right? Hehehe...

Since they're scorpionling, no need so big lo. Ryo keeps them in a tau foo faa container!

We soooo should have a scorpion play date.

Oh yeah Jamien always wanted to ask. How's the beetle? Passed away?

yer.. your room soooo big lar..
i also want a big room

if get a scorpion sure my dad kill me

Yeah, passed away just a few weeks ago. Sigh... The fella just resurfaces whenever it wants to eat. Otherwise it'll be in substrate or pretending to be a rock in the corner or something. So now got a nice big empty tank again. We christened him Pinch btw. It was a really good experience, keeping it.

My bf and I kinda dried it after it died and used it as decoration in my bf's room. Look so much like it was alive.

@Neshie: Keep it under the bed or in your cupboard la. Hehe... I'm planning to keep mine near my com in my com room. Nobody will notice. Hehe...

This post has been edited by Jamien: Aug 20 2008, 09:32 PM

Im just afraid that my dad will kill me kaokao. xD
He doesnt like these things..

You could always hide them in like those opaque tool boxes.I use them to house my pets. I mean, nobody knew I had tarantulas. Whenever they ask, just tell them 'dunno' very simple one. And don't look at your dad when you say dunno ahhaha. Works every time.


and now I have abouttttt almost 30 ts to care for plus 1 scorp. and a leopard gecko. and 2 frogs.

Jamien : Oh haha yeah he does that a lot. Pinch is a good name. May he rip. So are you getting a scorp as well?

Ok neshie 2molo bring microscope to my house at 1pm with Jamien
B4 u all go muz check body =)
Actually adult scorpion love2 explore alot
Mine always explore the tank when she's still in his 1.5feet tank
Provide them few hiding place, they ll hide in different places from time2 time

Anw more pic to poison u all
One of them in its individual container

Eating!!!!

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Added on August 20, 2008, 9:44 pmDeng, u never go my house b4 = =
I can assure u my room are the smallest u ever seen
Tats y my bed are custom made higher a bit so i can put stuff below it lol

This post has been edited by RyoKenzaki: Aug 20 2008, 09:44 PM

i also want to see, my favourite subject in school is bio... hehehehehehe

actually can hold meh cos got poison in the tail

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Added on August 20, 2008, 9:47 pm my room ish half of the size of medium room leh.. so who's smaller.. wakaka

This post has been edited by anderyna: Aug 20 2008, 09:47 PM

Are you for real ah? XD then u must sponsor me battery. and i have NO idea whether it's still working or not. hahahaha.

They got venom bt they rarely sting, prefer2 pinch
Anw, the venom are like bee sting nia, unless u are allergic
Plus so small...... No feel la.....
My room smaller than half medium room, u can come visit me 2molo with jamien and neshie if u wan lol

Im juz kidding la lol
Dun think they ll stay still let me see lol

Mind explaining more? XD opaque tool boxes, ada pictures? hehe.

if they are going then i am coming lor.. hard to be free these days.. must relax gao gao before getting back to my computer

i thought the venom can kill
my bad.. watch too much national geography

Wahahaha. If you really got then bring la! Ryo will sponsor battery!! Hahahaha. Anyway, I agree wif neshie. most typical chinese families don't like poisonous or dangerous pets. Which is why there was a lil problem when my old AFS got discovered and also when we brought our ally snapper home.

Ryo, I know one place where I can keep and you cannot check. Be prepared to find 10 scorpionlings missing. Hahaha. Kidding la. One or two only la.

If can sex I want 2. If cannot sex I want 1.

@Andernya: Ryo's room is actually quite tiny. After his bed, only left 1 narrow space to put his table and laptop. And yeah, AFFS can hold. Their poison is just really painful when stung, provided you are not allgergic, it can't kill you. Ad AFS like to pinch with their pincers rather than sting.

LOL. really can bring ah? how to keep them still? =/

LOL Then i can juz sell 1 la cause impossible for me2 sex them nw
Anw aderyna, some scorpion can kill bt nt AFS
Those with small pincher and large sting are most likely2 have higher lvl venom

Hmmm how to say arr.

something like this.

so you all really go to his place tomoro?

pinch some more.. wow.. looks like i have more junk in my room.. have to clear liao..

Neshie, Ryo is their keeper mar. You provide microscope. He will handle the baby and check lo. wahahahaha.

So ander, you coming a not? 3 person can thrash up his place much easier. And AFS is really simple and safe to keep. Always maintain a respectful atitude when handling them. Then everything ok lo.

@Abe: how do you keep 30 of those boxes in your room and your parents don't find out about what's in it?

This post has been edited by Jamien: Aug 20 2008, 10:06 PM

Ohh, thanks!!

Hehehe, if he kena pinch, his problem?

Swt...... I ll try sex them then.....
Bt sure fail =(
Dun u worry nesh, they pinch like no feel

So ander going2 keep scorpion also?
Kekeke, u ll be poison by me 2molo
Be prepare

This post has been edited by RyoKenzaki: Aug 20 2008, 10:09 PM

*Ryo's way of making money* Businessman in the making.
Btw, can scorps be kept in aircon room?

yup, i am coming. no class tomoro
ryo, where you staying ? opposite alpha ka? neshie can sms me when you all here then i come down

yer, i dont have the courage to get it lar.. i wanna his button mushroom

LOL, i will!
he lives deeeeeep inside desa.. =="
Where u wanna meet us? lrt? XD

lolz.. you sound like he is kampung boy.. wakaka
lrt is okay with me

I dun think they can be keep in air conned room
As the recommended temperature are 75 to 90 degrees F
Unless u use heating pad, maybe can
Im nt sure cause i din use

Ander, tomorrow i ll let a scorpling climb on ur hand
U ll have coooouuuuraaaageeeeeeeeeee

LOL. sorry for that.
Hmm, will sms you when we're almost there k..

erm, can change to celcius? XDDD
Aijorrr, i dunno whr to keep!

His button mushroom is cute! 5 ppl squeeze in his tiny room... Lucky ryo small size.

And yeah, first time a scorpion (my Clip) climb on my hand, it was really exciiting.

Ryo, you sex tomorrow ah. Hehe...