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post Feb 8 2009, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(WildChai @ Feb 8 2009, 12:45 PM)
Hi,

I have heard some ppl mentioned that when you are taking the course at the island resorts...you don't have much time to relax the 3d2n holiday. All you do is prep for the dive course.

Can one take the course at a confined/controlled area (ie pool) before heading to open sea for the actual dive?
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Full course at Island..will need 4 Day 3 Night..For confined /Controlled ..you call Divers Den at PJ.. smile.gif they will arrange for you.
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post Feb 9 2009, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(WildChai @ Feb 8 2009, 12:45 PM)
Hi,

I have heard some ppl mentioned that when you are taking the course at the island resorts...you don't have much time to relax the 3d2n holiday. All you do is prep for the dive course.

Can one take the course at a confined/controlled area (ie pool) before heading to open sea for the actual dive?
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Hi,

Yes, 3D2N is not enough,even if its 4D3N you will need to sacrificed your midnight for studying/quiz . Normally you have to do 5 Confined Water Dives & 4 Open Water Dives and also 5 Sessions of Knowledge Development (which you need to study)...

And of course, you can do your course at pool, but you still have to go for 4 open water certification dive trip. By doing your course at a confined pool, you can save a lot of times and worries...So during your open water dive, you can already get used to it...


P/S : Most of the dive master would recommend that you take your license in confined pool. So that before you go for your open water trip, they would already analyst your problem/mistaken and could correct you before trip, and also save your time doing everything in 4 days... My advise is, the same biggrin.gif


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post Feb 10 2009, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(juniorkirk @ Feb 9 2009, 01:11 AM)
Hi,

Yes, 3D2N is not enough,even if its 4D3N you will need to sacrificed your midnight for studying/quiz . Normally you have to do 5 Confined Water Dives & 4 Open Water Dives and also 5 Sessions of Knowledge Development (which you need to study)...

And of course, you can do your course at pool, but you still have to go for 4 open water certification dive trip. By doing your course at a confined pool,  you can save a lot of times and worries...So during your open water dive, you can already get used to it...
P/S : Most of the dive master would recommend that you take your license in confined pool. So that before you go for your open water trip, they would already analyst your problem/mistaken and could correct you before trip, and also save your time doing everything in 4 days... My advise is, the same  biggrin.gif
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Appreciate your input. I intend to take the test/quiz and do the confined pool before heading to open water...cos i want to fully enjoy my time diving at the resort rather than spending nites reading up on material. Free and easy.

If i were to take the license at the pool....would the cost be cheaper or pretty much the same?

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post Feb 10 2009, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(WildChai @ Feb 10 2009, 12:33 AM)
Appreciate your input. I intend to take the test/quiz and do the confined pool before heading to open water...cos i want to fully enjoy my time diving at the resort rather than spending nites reading up on material. Free and easy.

If i were to take the license at the pool....would the cost be cheaper or pretty much the same?

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Depends on what dive institution and where are you getting it from. Mostly is about the same, just that one u learn here, and do your certification trip there, and another one is you do everything in the island, which is pretty tight.

If you would like to know roughly where and how much does it cost for you to take the course, can PM me directly. brows.gif
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post Feb 13 2009, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(juniorkirk @ Feb 9 2009, 01:11 AM)
Hi,

Yes, 3D2N is not enough,even if its 4D3N you will need to sacrificed your midnight for studying/quiz . Normally you have to do 5 Confined Water Dives & 4 Open Water Dives and also 5 Sessions of Knowledge Development (which you need to study)...

And of course, you can do your course at pool, but you still have to go for 4 open water certification dive trip. By doing your course at a confined pool,  you can save a lot of times and worries...So during your open water dive, you can already get used to it...
P/S : Most of the dive master would recommend that you take your license in confined pool. So that before you go for your open water trip, they would already analyst your problem/mistaken and could correct you before trip, and also save your time doing everything in 4 days... My advise is, the same  biggrin.gif
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I am very interested in taking the padi open water cert. I was thinking of 5 days 4 nights trip to perhentian. i am worry about the knowledge development question ! Is it very hard? is the quiz multiple choice or short answer questions? i definitely do not want to stress my self up burning mid night oil at pulau perhentian . lol

thx for ur suggestion, i am having second thoughts now about doing a crash course on the island ^^ . might consider going to a dive center and complete the knowledge development as well as confined dive first. i will check out dragonet diving nex week ... any other dive centre to recommend?
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post Feb 13 2009, 10:54 AM

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Would it be a good time to dive during april around the east coast? Wanna take the course then.
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QUOTE(seriousbuyer @ Feb 13 2009, 03:01 AM)
I am very interested in taking the padi open water cert. I was thinking of 5 days 4 nights trip to perhentian. i am worry about the knowledge development question ! Is it very hard? is the quiz multiple choice or short answer questions? i definitely do not want to stress my self up burning mid night oil at pulau perhentian . lol

thx for ur suggestion, i am having second thoughts now about doing a crash course on the island ^^ . might consider going to a dive center and complete the knowledge development as well as confined dive first. i will check out dragonet diving nex week ... any other dive centre to recommend?
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i did mine at perhentian island..
the questions are quite basic questions la.. it's not very hard those type..
if it's a 5 days 4 nights trip, i dun think it would be a crash course.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(WildChai @ Feb 13 2009, 10:54 AM)
Would it be a good time to dive during april around the east coast? Wanna take the course then.
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end of march to august like that, anytime also good time to dive.. hehe..
dun go during school holidays lor..
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post Feb 13 2009, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Feb 13 2009, 11:35 AM)
i did mine at perhentian island..
the questions are quite basic questions la.. it's not very hard those type..
if it's a 5 days 4 nights trip, i dun think it would be a crash course.. tongue.gif
end of march to august like that, anytime also good time to dive.. hehe..
dun go during school holidays lor..
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Yeah, agreed, the quiz is very very the easy. Even if you failed (choy), you can redo it again and again and again until you pass without having to pay extra. That was what has been told by my instructor... tongue.gif

I did my theory and confined water course in 1Utama and open water course in Pulau Redang.

My diving course is RM900, 4D3N in Redang costs RM429. Just took it last year in 2008.

Right after the course I went diving in Bali and Sipadan!! Sipadan is really an underwater paradise.


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This post has been edited by shelynssl: Feb 13 2009, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(shelynssl @ Feb 13 2009, 02:48 PM)
Yeah, agreed, the quiz is very very the easy. Even if you failed (choy), you can redo it again and again and again until you pass without having to pay extra. That was what has been told by my instructor...  tongue.gif

I did my theory and confined water course in 1Utama and open water course in Pulau Redang.

My diving course is RM900, 4D3N in Redang costs RM429. Just took it last year in 2008.

Right after the course I went diving in Bali and Sipadan!! Sipadan is really an underwater paradise.
.:My Bali Trip:.

.:My Sipadan Trip:.
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i'm going to sipadan in july and bali in november this year.. can't wait.. haha.. rclxm9.gif
if i'm not mistaken, mostly are objective questions lor.. did mine two years ago so cant really remember..
i did everything in perhentian and i think it cost about rm1500 something like that.. include makan, hotel, everything..
then i did my advance last year in redang.. very easy only.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Feb 13 2009, 04:18 PM)
i'm going to sipadan in july and bali in november this year.. can't wait.. haha..  rclxm9.gif
if i'm not mistaken, mostly are objective questions lor.. did mine two years ago so cant really remember..
i did everything in perhentian and i think it cost about rm1500 something like that.. include makan, hotel, everything..
then i did my advance last year in redang.. very easy only.. tongue.gif
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Wow... cool... you are very active man!

Enjoy your vacation in Bali and Sipadan, they are both paradise!!

I will suggest you to hike Mount Batur in Bali, if you are adventurous type, which I think you are biggrin.gif . The sunrise view is breathtaking. And it's a rare opportunity to hike volcano!!

My most memorable moment in Bali!


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QUOTE(shelynssl @ Feb 13 2009, 05:31 PM)
Wow... cool... you are very active man!

Enjoy your vacation in Bali and Sipadan, they are both paradise!!

I will suggest you to hike Mount  Batur in Bali, if you are adventurous type, which I think you are  biggrin.gif . The sunrise view is breathtaking. And it's a rare opportunity to hike volcano!!

My most memorable moment in Bali!
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sure.. i'll be spending about 5 days in bali.. but mostly will be diving la..
see whether bf wana go hiking or not.. haha.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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wau...its seems that getting more & more girls into diving world!
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jan 25 2009, 03:24 PM)
no u dun need to learn swimming.. just need to know how to float..  tongue.gif
took my diving course at perhentian 2 years ago and my advance at redang last year..
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if you are talking about a PADI Open Water course you stand corrected.
there is a a skill which requires the candidate to swim for 200m.
so you actually need to know how to swim.
but more importantly the individual MUST be comfortable with water!

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post Feb 16 2009, 12:44 PM

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may i know which diving centre provide courses 1st then test at pulau ? just started working and it is very to apply for a leave especially when u only have 12 days per year to used .
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QUOTE(kimseng @ Feb 16 2009, 11:55 AM)
if you are talking about a PADI Open Water course you stand corrected.
there is a a skill which requires the candidate to swim for 200m.
so you actually need to know how to swim.
but more importantly the individual MUST be comfortable with water!
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i see, probably i've forgotten.. notworthy.gif
i took my PADI open water and i remembered the dive master saying technically u dun need to know how to swim.. doh.gif
but u're correct, we were test to swim for a short distance and back.. dun need proper swimming skills as long as u can get to the end point without drowning can edi.. laugh.gif
of course it is very much safer and recommended that divers shud know the basics of swimming..
if u put it in another way.. diving without knowing how to swim is like walking without knowing how to crawl. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Feb 16 2009, 01:05 PM)
i see, probably i've forgotten..  notworthy.gif
i took my PADI open water and i remembered the dive master saying technically u dun need to know how to swim..  doh.gif
but u're correct, we were test to swim for a short distance and back.. dun need proper swimming skills as long as u can get to the end point without drowning can edi..  laugh.gif
of course it is very much safer and recommended that divers shud know the basics of swimming..
if u put it in another way.. diving without knowing how to swim is like walking without knowing how to crawl.  sweat.gif
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your instructor must be very easy going... there is no stipulated requirement of knowledge of any particulat stroke but an important point is MUST be comfortable in the water. it is up to the instructor to judge.
btw for the benefit of the rest of the people reading this.
you CANNOT take the open water course from a Divemaster. A minimum of Open Water Scuba Instructor rating can teach the Open Water Diver course. A divemaster can only do a Discover Scuba Diving session...
A divemaster's duty is to ASSIST the instructor in conducting the course but the instructor MUST have direct supervision at all times.

so CAVEAT EMPTOR
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QUOTE(kimseng @ Feb 16 2009, 01:49 PM)
your instructor must be very easy going... there is no stipulated requirement of knowledge of any particulat stroke but an important point is MUST be comfortable in the water. it is up to the instructor to judge.
btw for the benefit of the rest of the people reading this.
you CANNOT take the open water course from a Divemaster. A minimum of Open Water Scuba Instructor rating can teach the Open Water Diver course. A divemaster can only do a Discover Scuba Diving session...
A divemaster's duty is to ASSIST the instructor in conducting the course but the instructor MUST have direct supervision at all times.

so CAVEAT EMPTOR
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of course to be a diver u have to be comfortable in the water.. if one does not like the water, i dun think he/she will even think of being a diver.. tongue.gif
and i dun think divemasters will offer to teach ppl the course also.. =.=
most of them will recommend u to another instructor who will teach the course and give the cert.. like in my case lo..
my open water course was with a german instructor and her hair damn cool like coral like that.. lol..


Added on February 16, 2009, 7:26 pm
QUOTE(fezanim @ Feb 16 2009, 12:44 PM)
may i know which diving centre provide courses 1st then test at pulau ? just started working and it is very to apply for a leave especially when u only have 12 days per year to used .
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actually there are many centers that provide the courses here on mainland then only go pulau to complete the course.. smile.gif
might wanna check with dive shops.. some of them provide courses..
one utama got one dive center there with swimming pool also.. laugh.gif

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post Feb 16 2009, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(kimseng @ Feb 16 2009, 01:49 PM)
your instructor must be very easy going... there is no stipulated requirement of knowledge of any particulat stroke but an important point is MUST be comfortable in the water. it is up to the instructor to judge.
btw for the benefit of the rest of the people reading this.
you CANNOT take the open water course from a Divemaster. A minimum of Open Water Scuba Instructor rating can teach the Open Water Diver course. A divemaster can only do a Discover Scuba Diving session...
A divemaster's duty is to ASSIST the instructor in conducting the course but the instructor MUST have direct supervision at all times.

so CAVEAT EMPTOR
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I agree with you, most important is must be comfortable in the water. But like what munkeyflo said, her's instructor might know that she can swim so she just "pretend" to ask her to swim for a distance, A instructor basically know who can swim and who are struggling in the water. That doesn't mean that instructor to be very easy going cry.gif

Personal thinking, i think most of them would like easy going instructor more than the strict/serious one, like what my instructor always scold + knocked my head. "THIS IS CLOWN FISH, not NEMO" . But for more of them, they don't know what is clown fish, but everyone know what is nemo. So what's wrong with calling them nemo ?..But i was thinking...just a name, no need so serious right?...


A divemaster's duty is to assist the instructor in conducting the course, what type of DM you mean? I always would like the DM to go far far away than to be a major distraction to all the students. smile.gif no offend to all fellow DMss..

just my 2 cents...
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QUOTE(juniorkirk @ Feb 16 2009, 11:58 PM)
I agree with you, most important is must be comfortable in the water. But like what munkeyflo said, her's instructor might know that she can swim so she just "pretend" to ask her to swim for a distance, A instructor basically know who can swim and who are struggling in the water. That doesn't mean that instructor to be very easy going  cry.gif

Personal thinking, i think most of them would like easy going instructor more than the strict/serious one, like what my instructor always scold + knocked my head. "THIS IS CLOWN FISH, not NEMO" . But for more of them, they don't know what is clown fish, but everyone know what is nemo. So what's wrong with calling them nemo ?..But i was thinking...just a name, no need so serious right?...
A divemaster's duty is to assist the instructor in conducting the course, what type of DM you mean? I always would like the DM to go far far away than to be a major distraction to all the students.  smile.gif no offend to all fellow DMss..

just my 2 cents...
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well i was just assuming based on what was written.. like i said before its the instructors call. and i am not here to judge.
easy going is one thing but not at the expense of the standards set forth.
i'm sure all the divers know of the risk involved and death is the ultimate price to pay for a failure to comply with the education given.

i'm sure your instructor meant well by correcting you on the Nemo saga. just that i don't agree on the head knocking part.

other than assisting the instructor, DM's are usually employed to guide divers in a new place and do general supervision. in PADI's case also babysit PADI Scuba Divers (fyi a level below Open Water diver)

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QUOTE(shelynssl @ Feb 13 2009, 02:48 PM)
Yeah, agreed, the quiz is very very the easy. Even if you failed (choy), you can redo it again and again and again until you pass without having to pay extra. That was what has been told by my instructor...  tongue.gif

I did my theory and confined water course in 1Utama and open water course in Pulau Redang.

My diving course is RM900, 4D3N in Redang costs RM429. Just took it last year in 2008.

Right after the course I went diving in Bali and Sipadan!! Sipadan is really an underwater paradise.
.:My Bali Trip:.

.:My Sipadan Trip:.
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Heya,

Is the dive center at 1U next to a bar? everything would b taught there eh? how many days would the confined course be?



QUOTE(kimseng @ Feb 16 2009, 11:55 AM)
if you are talking about a PADI Open Water course you stand corrected.
there is a a skill which requires the candidate to swim for 200m.
so you actually need to know how to swim.
but more importantly the individual MUST be comfortable with water!
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I can swim...any style oso can ar? Katak style oso can? haha.

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