eh........we have gone through all this before......

some places get oficial instruction to pass students......

some places passes can be arranged for a small sum.....

buying passes occurs/ed in russia and india...haven't heard about indonesia.....probably doesn't happen in msia.......

ordered passes occurs in ipta.....in various forms.......

eh......again a gross misrepresentation.....

relative few doctors actually get suspended or strike off.....it's single digit yearly.....you would actually hear of it, as the current chairman (the dg) has mandated such action will be released to the press for public info.....

p/s 'interest' and 'want to be a good doctor' at undergraduate level has little bearing on eventual behaviour.......trust me, been there, seen it all......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 14 2008, 06:09 PM

i need to prove nothing......

you make claim, NOT me

you need to prove to us, NOT me......

i hope you know the difference between 'breaking the code of ethics' and malpractice........

that has now strengthen my reservations about the admission policy of the local ipta/s.........

we have certainly gone slightly off topic.......although i have tried to explain why manipal's problems may be not unfounded........but it's all reasonable arguing so far, some good, some rather pathetic......to be expected of the mixed bag of medical students taken in by med schools here......

the concept of the difference between absolute and relative value is not obvious to some......even worthless junk can have relative value......some junk are more junk than other junks........

i think if a forumer asks for his privacy to be respected, i think we should respect that.......

I thought the modus operandi is pretty obvious, there is a major dumbing down of the top band, so that the number of perfect results (spm 10a1, stpm/matrik cgpa 4) have ballooned........so that they can play social engineering.....

whereas in the past it was obvious people with poorer results gets the scholarships and offers, now they can say, everybody also got equal perfect results, but cannot give to everybody, so need to select......

that is why the exams are dumbed down......these 7a's 10 years ago now get 11as and since there are so many of them, discretion comes into the selection process.......11a's or even 12a's do not guarantee one a scholarship the last 2 years.....

so what if you got 4.0? there are in excess of 1100 of them coming out from matrik every year...........

it is I think about 300 or so out of 80k stpm students compared to 1100+ out of 20k matrik.......

so it is either stpm students are very stupid or stpm very hard, or matrik very easy or matrik students very smart...../.