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tchtax
post Apr 22 2011, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(capiche @ Apr 22 2011, 01:09 PM)
I will recommend UC. U can just skip SwirlX.. To me, is the most overrated Meguiar's product..

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In that case, I;ll use my Swirlx like a cleaner polish since its so mild biggrin.gif
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post Apr 22 2011, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(blacksunday @ Apr 22 2011, 01:05 PM)
is there a way i can get rid of holograms by hand instead of rotary?..any products to recommend?
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why not
look at these
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by hand no machine or running water - OHSC

\before
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after
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do bit by bit - one part at a time
read more here

QUOTE(tchtax @ Apr 22 2011, 01:52 PM)
Optimum Polish or maybe Swirlx ?
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I would say if it is by hand you need compound - if you have a rotary optimum hyper spray polish
as it has both weight & speed for it to level up the paint


QUOTE(xngjn @ Apr 22 2011, 02:01 PM)
where can i get "ONR" & "PG clay"?
any good liquid wax to intro?
thank you.
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I will pm u the details

QUOTE(tchtax @ Apr 22 2011, 02:04 PM)
yeah, I think KC has it. If the Swirlx is too mild, may have to move up a little step...ScratchX perhaps? This also depends on the type of pad you use.
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bro these are just some detailing toys - get the real thing

eg

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to this
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read more here in meguuiars on line USA
meguiarsonline.com]


QUOTE(blacksunday @ Apr 22 2011, 02:12 PM)
UC as in ultimate compound by meguires?....sorry noob...wats mf pad?
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no worries that is the reason i am doing the hands on session

details here

my tag line is this

SHOW ME YOUR WORK !!!! as knowledge puff u up

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post Apr 22 2011, 05:29 PM

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ok so i just went to get ultimate compound meguires..next nid to find time....smile.gif....well hope my lil experiment does bring me to somewhere...my only mission is to get rid of the holograms...one last question...do i need to clay first or i could just do right after a car wash?
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QUOTE(blacksunday @ Apr 22 2011, 06:29 PM)
ok so i just went to get ultimate compound meguires..next nid to find time....smile.gif....well hope my lil experiment does bring me to somewhere...my only mission is to get rid of the holograms...one last question...do i need to clay first or i could just do right after a car wash?
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dont get anything 1st - do not attempt with any compound for holograms ...esp OTC products...the issue with many DIY - car owners is they want to grab something over the counter & bring it home - ta da (what we call instant gratifications) 3in 1 kopi ke - tuang air panas & kacau

DONT waste yr $$$$ - all you need is to get the right stuff & do it the right way - when i started detailing - nobody shares with me - or give a dam or either that gives dam stupid tips - purposely to trick us, so that we will not success (otherwise they tutup kedai) - one of the so call megs detailing centre in Pandan jaya

that day onwards i told myself - whatever the kwai lo (international professional detailer) uses to detail a lambo or ferrari - i desire for it - so I got my what they have - & train up myself - when my Ferrari & lambo came i have what it takes - do u think i can get the stuff to detail from supermarket???

another this using compound in the wrong way - chances might - ended up with more haze than before


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pls observe the general detailing step by step -

STEP 1 & 2 - wash then clay -

you may follow the guide here read more here

I only suggest you should come join me on 7 may (1st come 1st serve basis) & learn the full to detail & then go & detail the right way...


Added on April 23, 2011, 12:45 amonce preps is done - now I have a surface above free from contaminants - moving to paint corrections


- example - cars that always been wash by road side has this issue - SWIRLS - to prevent this wash your own car in the right way & good MF periodically change - otherwise half past six car wash - boss lu punya kereta manyak calar - apa macam - Mau polish wax ????!@#$%^&** - ended up like this

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I thought i saw some only but...badly & horrendously....

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swirls - aka spider webs

very visible fine line cut - is done only professionally - regular car wash damages!!!!

threats inflicted professional by car washes (or road side ones)
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SWIRLS is usually inflicted by our habits & the wrong way of handling washing , also techniques (wrong way of shampooing - circulating) & material used - such as sponges, worn out mitts/microfibers, drying cloth - cotton cloth - old rags, old t-shirts, jeans la....etcs...as our clear coat is only 2/1000th part of an inch

therefore I make it a point to change my Microfibers once every 3-4 months to prevent

STEP 3 - Part 1
after compounding - with OPTIMUM Hyper Spray Compound with LC Double sided wool

ta da
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next
deep scratches & swirls on the hood - need to be compounded


plenty of swirls - before
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after compounding
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STEP 3 - Part 2 (polishing)


Next issue Hologram from compounding

VISIBLE HOLOGRAM!!!! paint defect inflicted by car detailers
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Spot me contest??
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STEP 3 - Part 3 (finishing polish)
after finishing with polishing pad with OPTIMUM Hyper spray polish (excellent working time )
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dont take my words - click here to read what the kwai lo has to says about this here in meguiars forum

autogeek forum in USA

Detailing forum in UK

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Mooneyes
post Apr 23 2011, 10:31 AM

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hi KC..when is the next trip to kuching laugh.gif
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post Apr 23 2011, 10:46 AM

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Hi there KC!

May I know is the offer still ongoing in here--> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1720414

Thanks in advance. =D

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QUOTE(Mooneyes @ Apr 23 2011, 11:31 AM)
hi KC..when is the next trip to kuching laugh.gif
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any time bro

you organised - i come


QUOTE(yon^sacred @ Apr 23 2011, 11:46 AM)
Hi there KC!

May I know is the offer still ongoing in here--> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1720414

Thanks in advance. =D
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Yes

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post Apr 23 2011, 05:02 PM

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Hey bro kc i pm'ed you
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Hey kc,you got my pm smile.gif
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post Apr 24 2011, 08:06 PM

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may i noe wad is the white stain around the wheel cap?
3 of my rims got those stubborn white stain..i tried using OPC 1:1 but no use..
it cant be scratch coz my dad's car also like this. hmm.gif
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post Apr 25 2011, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(michaelyii1988 @ Apr 24 2011, 09:06 PM)
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may i noe wad is the white stain around the wheel cap?
3 of my rims got those stubborn white stain..i tried using OPC 1:1 but no use..
it cant be scratch coz my dad's car also like this.  hmm.gif
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that is an oxidized alloy rim

u must use metal polish or polish with machine with aggressive wool balls or get it skim ^& clear coated after that
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post Apr 25 2011, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(blacksunday @ Apr 22 2011, 05:29 PM)
ok so i just went to get ultimate compound meguires..next nid to find time....smile.gif....well hope my lil experiment does bring me to somewhere...my only mission is to get rid of the holograms...one last question...do i need to clay first or i could just do right after a car wash?
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is always best to do from grounds up.. wash-clay-correction-seal.. smile.gif U cant go wrong with UC.. its a noob-proof product.. smile.gif

brands are not important. skill matters. whether is meguiars,optimum,3m or menzerma.. if u used wrongly, all will result in disaster. biggrin.gif

however, meguiars is the only OTC product we can find here.. which is an extremely sad case and consider to be gooe enough unless u r doin serious correction, then u need professional range.. Optimum now basically left KC brought in.. Mothers by autopolishine..

know ur paint condition,own skill n knowledge.. i learnt my skill from buying product first.. use liao few times, not good, sell away. cause dun have sifu to teach.. hahahaha

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QUOTE(capiche @ Apr 25 2011, 10:21 PM)
is always best to do from grounds up.. wash-clay-correction-seal.. smile.gif U cant go wrong with UC.. its a noob-proof product..  smile.gif

brands are not important. skill matters. whether is meguiars,optimum,3m or menzerma.. if u used wrongly, all will result in disaster. biggrin.gif

however, meguiars is the only OTC product we can find here.. which is an extremely sad case and consider to be gooe enough unless u r doin serious correction, then u need professional range.. Optimum now basically left KC brought in..
know ur paint condition,own skill n knowledge.. i learnt my skill from buying product first.. use liao few times, not good, sell away. cause dun have sifu to teach.. hahahaha
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HI caprice you do not need to splash around trying out all OTC....stuff...just do some googling & see whats are some of the stuff other arena is using & how effective is it....and you will soon find out

a chinese saying that goes "I have plenty of swords at my back, but none of them are sharp"

so when you have found your sharp one - use it effectively & it will be sharper

----i started just like you ended up wasting lots of $$$
here but now i only need 5 of the optimum

you know which 5......btw do u have any machines? if not....is ther any plans? cos there are couple of real good machines is coming in to malaysia



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as coming back to michaelyii1988 struggles


i was a victim like you
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Car wash and most car owners want an instant gratifying results - so much so - strong acid base - wheels cleaner are use often in this area - corrosive even to our skins & hands - threaten the wheel coat as prematurely worn down


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pls allow your wheel to cool down prior washing them - as not advise to threaten both extreme temperature -

Its just simply amazing...how effortless & easy to care for the most tedious / filthiness area....of our wheels, this is the most important place to begin for any car wash...(kindly allow your wheel to cool down prior washing, as at some extreme brake our rotor may get heated till 300 degrees or so) not i wait you wash the kind of thing

most of the wheel damages is done the wrong way of washing ...with aggressive cleaner with chemicals like degreaser as such found in wheels cleaners
impose danger to both our skin & inhalations....

allow me to share with you
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be fore warn
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time for wash
Most easy effortless & effective wash - done with 3 MF

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looking familiar - the amount of brake dust collect over days....
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not a very rewarding place to begin with - but compulsory one ( as brake dust contains the most threatening part of your daily drive - dangerously as these asbestos & rotors metal dust sticking to your car body

never wash yr car downwards up - always start from the top


clay before polish or correction

brushing off the wheel nut area
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more 50% / 50 % comparrision
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ta da
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remember before
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now
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in just 3 minutes- safe & effective - say no no when anybody using wheels cleaners or degreaser - do not brush them!!!!! not even with expensive plastics bristle brushes

you can makes a different

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kc you got my pm. btw i can't see the image for your latest post.
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QUOTE(KC's @ Apr 26 2011, 05:50 PM)
HI caprice you do not need to splash around trying out all OTC....stuff...just do some googling & see whats are some of the stuff other arena is using & how effective is it....and you will soon find out

a chinese saying that goes "I have plenty of swords at my back, but none of them are sharp"

so when you have found your sharp one - use it effectively & it will be sharper

----i started just like you ended up wasting lots of $$$
yeah.. But i like to try out different products to see the effect and performance.

I did a lot research normally before buying. cause wallet no money mah.. need to be cautious. biggrin.gif

And honestly, those reviews cant do much justification. For example, there are 4 products which I tried (based on reviews are good).. which to me isnt at all. and to the extent, I would say it is rubbish. half of these are OTC. the other half is non-OTC.

I will not disclose the brands though smile.gif

for ppl like u and me, we learn it the hard way. but it is fun though! smile.gif

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QUOTE(capiche @ Apr 26 2011, 08:03 PM)
yeah.. But i like to try out different products to see the effect and performance.

I did a lot research normally before buying. cause wallet no money mah.. need to be cautious. biggrin.gif

And honestly, those reviews cant do much justification. For example, there are 4 products which I tried (based on reviews are good).. which to me isnt at all. and to the extent, I would say it is rubbish. half of these are OTC. the other half is non-OTC.

I will not disclose the brands though smile.gif

for ppl like u and me, we learn it the hard way. but it is fun though! smile.gif
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hahaahahahahahahhahah u know what i mean ...same same victim

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hi, just realize there is one good detailing thread over here.

I have been washing my car by myself for 2years+ now...

weekly wash meguiars gold class shampoo + MF clothes + 2 bucket method (one for shampoo fluid, another to clean MF clothes)

monthly (sometimes twice a month) wax using Meguiar M16 + sponge

3months/6months - Clay (PG clay) + Meguiar colorX + M16 + sponge

recently notice that under street lamp, there is a lot of swirls on the car surface sad.gif and plenty of watermarks too (dark color car)

would like to know any suitable way to rescue the situation?
I think it is getting more and more "sandy" feel on the car surface..(last week just done the clay+colorX+M16) and it took me the whole morning sweat.gif a lot

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QUOTE(Vcys86 @ Apr 27 2011, 02:42 PM)
hi, just realize there is one good detailing thread over here.

I have been washing my car by myself for 2years+ now...

weekly wash meguiars gold class shampoo + MF clothes + 2 bucket method (one for shampoo fluid, another to clean MF clothes)

monthly (sometimes twice a month) wax using Meguiar M16 + sponge

3months/6months - Clay (PG clay) + Meguiar colorX + M16 + sponge

recently notice that under street lamp, there is a lot of swirls on the car surface sad.gif and plenty of watermarks too (dark color car)

would like to know any suitable way to rescue the situation?
I think it is getting more and more "sandy" feel on the car surface..(last week just done the clay+colorX+M16) and it took me the whole morning sweat.gif a lot
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Ur washing technique. though is 2BM. the pressures applied greatly matters too. u sure there are no dirt at at all on the MF everytime u clean it out from the rinse bucket?

May I know ur 'sponge' is in what sponge?

Do u make sure that the paint surface is ultimately clean before u monthly waxing session? then how about the applicator? is it clean?

Shall all these are checked, there shouldnt be anyway swirls can be instilled in short period. The last time I correct my paint is 3.5years back. Now have some RIDS around. smile.gif

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QUOTE(capiche @ Apr 27 2011, 04:39 PM)
Ur washing technique. though is 2BM. the pressures applied greatly matters too. u sure there are no dirt at at all on the MF everytime u clean it out from the rinse bucket?

May I know ur 'sponge' is in what sponge?

Do u make sure that the paint surface is ultimately clean before u monthly waxing session? then how about the applicator? is it clean?

Shall all these are checked, there shouldnt be anyway swirls can be instilled in short period. The last time I correct my paint is 3.5years back. Now have some RIDS around. smile.gif
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thanks for your reply.

Just normal pressure as washing other stuff (plates, cups) , is it correct?
normally i did clean thoroughly during rinse, and because it is weekly wash, not much dirt can be catch by MF (by rough eyes monitor)

The sponge is from Meguiar too, it is a square, white-colored, size is larger than a soap a bit. I tried to find on its homepage, seems it is no longer available there..

on monthly wax, i wax only after wash, with no clay though. For the applicator, i used the sponge (for nearly two years already). The sponge surface did become dark (or dirty?) . Does it means it no longer suitable?

Previously, although i can see the swirl, but the surface still smooth.
Just recently, the surface become very sandy/rough feel doh.gif doh.gif

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I'm currently using Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax as a booster. If compared against Optimum Car Wax or Optimum Instant Detailer, which among the three gives the best gloss/shine? Don't really care about the durability. Thinking of getting a gallon of one of them biggrin.gif

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