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post Apr 22 2010, 01:36 PM

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anyone has any ideas where can i get Klasse AIO or SG locally? Their malaysian webpage seems dead.. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 22 2010, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Apr 22 2010, 02:11 PM)
can;t get them here anymore, even singapore hard to get
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oh really? thanks.. guess i have no chance of using this great AIO.. unless buy from Autogeek or Indonesia.. XD

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post Feb 20 2011, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Feb 19 2011, 07:47 PM)
kc's want to ask, is that ok if i do "no rinse" wash use 1bucket meguiar's nxt car wash and after that i soak my mf cloth after i wipe my car ,does this safe from swirl mark?

i try u minimize wastage a-lot f running water by doing this but the same time scaring the fine scratch will appear a lot, my car is black and really hard to maintain from fine scratch even lil of dust
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Actually.. There are ppl tried their own formula of no rinse by mixing Meguiars NXT wash and Last Touch Detailer

here;s the video.. smile.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9CbLGeBN_w

and beside using a quality wash shampoo and medium.. always remember that u r GLIDING the wash medium through the paint... not SCRUBBING through... smile.gif

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post Feb 20 2011, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Feb 20 2011, 06:30 PM)
thanks for the link, but what i'm practice now a bit dif, I'm using 2 bucket, 1buckt with meg's nxt shampoo and 1bucket plain water for soak and rinse the towel. i use 2 mf towel, 1st towel to glide the dust with nxt car-wash and soak after that with plain water then back to paint and 2nd mf to dry the paint.

what i worried is it this method safe enough?
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oh ok.. i got what u mean... From ur description.. it sounds like a safe method to me.. but u gotta make sure all the dirt has sucked up by the medium.. hence u wont be dragging it when u "rinsing" with ur MF..

how about this, experiment it on ur own car.. hehe.. tape an area of 5x5" with no imperfections.. then try it with ur own method and see how it fares.. smile.gif

I do this all the time when I'm in doubt.. smile.gif

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post Feb 20 2011, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Feb 20 2011, 07:10 PM)
well thanks for advise, good idea,  biggrin.gif . hope my method is safe enough
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no problemo bro.. smile.gif

eh.. u from Malacca too? Hardly found any detailer in Malacca.. biggrin.gif.. My hometown is at Malacca..
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post Feb 20 2011, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Feb 20 2011, 08:33 PM)
yeah i'm from Malacca, batu berendam area, i just amateur and still learn about car detailing, since Malacca rarely have car detailing shop so i decide to do it my self for my beloved car  biggrin.gif
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even detailing supplies are difficult to come by.. all my supplies were bought online... sweat.gif
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post Feb 21 2011, 07:01 PM

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KC,

the video he uses is a Last Touch Detailer (which I believe should be same as Quik Detailer)

Anyway.. I'm a firm believer of ONR.. I have a gallon of it.. biggrin.gif

It is really a damn good stuff..

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post Feb 21 2011, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(KC's @ Feb 21 2011, 07:15 PM)
hahahahah

Thank you ....i only go for convenience - easy effortlessly & efective

I was once a hard core on Megs - having 30 over of his products but now I only need 5 from optimum

BTW the QD is discontinuing

Megs is brought over by 3M - imagine the long gone legacy finally sold for $ - in US - every product when you need to have a MDSD (material safety sheet Data)

to know your competitor formula is just a click away - it doesnt takes 4 years to developes a product - only 3 years - optimum comes out 3 formulas

it is  evolving - if u happend to see how opt doc G look like he is a scientist but megs barry -  is a entrepreneurship - i would love to owns Megs
hahahahah more $$$$$$
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ONR is almost my daily routine d... Scratch and swirl free without any running water... I only do full car wash then I wanted to strip everything out..

Yea... but somehow 3M assures that they wont interrupt with Meguiar's business dealing... Thus Barry still the CEO... But, all this is all about business.. they can shut down Meguiar's anytime to reduce 1 competitor.. after all, they have paintcare too..

Indeed some Meguiar's product is not as good as they claimed.. Unfortunately, in Malaysia.. It is quite difficult to source alternatives... Even Autoglym product is having lesser reseller nowadays... I still remember Jusco network used to sell Autoglym..

Optimum Poli-seal is what I aiming currently.. But my supplies are really too much for one car... sad.gif

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post Mar 11 2011, 02:16 PM

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NXT doesnt have polishing/abrasive compound.. there's no way it can hide/correct any form of water mark.. no wax / sealant can do this, not even collinites, or swissvax..

If u wanna know whether ur car still has water mark after waxing.. park outside a night.. next morning with all the dew on the paint, use a yellowish light to look at the paint slanted, u will see that there's circle of dew around...

NXT has filler to fill in minor scratchs n swirls..

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post Mar 15 2011, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Mar 13 2011, 04:29 PM)
Also there's no point layering NXt as they have cleaning properties so you're essentially removing the first layer if you're layering it. Get a pure wax if you want to layer.
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can layer, but to ensure even coverage as the cleaning properties are not that strong to remove whole first layer..

but not on the point of enhancing durability. smile.gif
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post Mar 15 2011, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Fusion @ Mar 15 2011, 02:53 PM)
hi,

have been using the the Meguiar Gold Class wax and it is finishing soon....the Gold Class doesnt really fill up the swirl marks so i plan to change to another wax soon...

for my next purchase, i plan to get the Meguiar 205 compound, Ultimate Paste Wax and Meguiar M21 sealant to top it up.....

what do you guys think about the M#21 sealant?....from the review, it does wonder to swirl marks and it can last quite long.....

Anyone knows where to purchase all these 3 items?...i hope to purchase the 64oz bottle but i dont seem to be able to find these items locally...sad.gif
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#21 accd to Megs is the pro version of their NXT2.0.. it is just being made in the way that it can be apply via machine... however, most ppl claims it has better durability than NXT2.0

first of all, #21 does contains filler, but u shud not use this as paint correction.. a compound/polish should take care of this, not sealant... dun expect it will hide all sorts of imperfection..

IMHO, u dun need both ultimate paste wax (UPW) and #21... UPW is combination of sealant+carnauba... If u really plan to proceed with sealant then carnauba layering.. then purchase either UPW OR #21.. then another PURE carnauba like #16.

Hope I help smile.gif

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post Mar 15 2011, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Fusion @ Mar 15 2011, 06:25 PM)
i have previously tried the #16 but i have better result using the Gold Class wax....the reason that i thought of trying out the UPW is that most review said that the UPW give a higher gloss and very soft effect compares to the Gold Class....

from what i have read, i thought that the #21 is more on the protection but when it comes to shine, the UPW and Gold Class would be a better choice.....

Should i wax the car then only apply the sealant or sealant first only wax?...from some of the forum that i have read, Wax first then then only seal it with the sealant for a longer lasting shine....
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#21 has more protection as its a synthetic sealant. UPW and GC has carnauba content.. the gloss is definitely better.. but if u talk about durability, I think nothing comes close to #16 (Meguiar's line comparison only)...

the widely used method is.. sealant -> wax... but my experience tell me, i really do not see any diff in such layering... back then when i apply nxt2.0.. I like the candy-looking it gives.. however, when i layer with #16.. the effect somehow has go away.. and all it left is pure gloss of carnauba (though #16 doesnt has cleaning properties)

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post Mar 17 2011, 09:18 PM

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there's no gloss near to those from carnauba.. thts y until now a lot detailer still prefer carnauba.. smile.gif

reason why GC has better gloss on dark color because it DOES contains carnauba inside.. its a hybrid.. smile.gif

if u found that its hard to buff off a wax.. then there's problem with ur application.. try re-do.. smile.gif.. if u do it correctly.. it could be easier than synthetic sealant smile.gif

happy waxin.. smile.gif
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post Mar 22 2011, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(Oliver Oh @ Mar 21 2011, 09:00 PM)
i have a doubt here, if our car doing car detailing every year, our paint clear coat will get thinner and thinner right? Correct me if I wrong~
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Unless u compound ur paint every month.. then it will be thinner.. If u r doin so, then there's problem with ur washin n maintenance technique.


@Zaypher, it wont strip the wax.. however, it would definitely scrap the crap out of ur paint.. I dunno what car u drivin.. as for Perodua Myvi.. the paint is so delicate till even a wrong choice of MF instill swirls on the surface...

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post Mar 22 2011, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Mar 22 2011, 12:23 AM)
I'm driving satria neo. So far i use before, no scrap. Just kinda worried that it may strip wax that's all. Anw, I agree with you that if you're not careful in the sense that there is dirt on your car, car surface will be scratched tongue.gif
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have u tried under yellow light instead of cool daylight fluorescent tube? street lamp is the best light to check out RIDS. nothing beat this.

no need dirt.. even inferior MF will cause damage.

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post Mar 22 2011, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Mar 22 2011, 07:23 AM)
Oh no I didn't  sweat.gif
Bro, I am using the Mr. Clean / Perma Glass MF. The premium MF is quite expensive..
Actually that wiper thing is good for lazy bum hahaha....


Added on March 22, 2011, 7:24 amBtw bro KC, what do you mean lesser is better, less is more?
Thank you
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actually u can try buying hyperkleen MF at Ace Hardware.. I currently using it.. so far it doesnt instill any RIDS... but it really suck big time when comes to wet usage.. the water absorption is downright terrible..

On Mr. Clean MF.. i cant comment as i nvr used them before.. nevertheless, i have use their applicator foam pad before... the surface is quite hard and spore it rather rough..
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post Mar 27 2011, 11:14 AM

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water beading is a very subjective issue to be discussed honestly..

beading is only when the water is 80% spherical.. anything less than 50% spherical is not beading anymore... so on and so on... and the other bla bla bla theories.. biggrin.gif so u see.. diff ppl has diff opinions..

and, washing concentration, pH and strength all are diff from each users n brands.. all manufacturer has diff formulation..

it is just unfair to compare diff product, diff preparations, diff wash n diff so on.... wan compare? standardised everything except wax used.. smile.gif

for this, how would u rate the beading?
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post Mar 27 2011, 11:33 PM

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what i mean that some ppl has diff perception of how water beading should be. the photo above is not even 50% spherical.. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 29 2011, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Mar 29 2011, 07:59 PM)
Thanks for the photo. Let me have a look again and see tongue.gif
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no problem. is all about sharing!

anyway, the beading is from a Myvi standard spoiler. coated with Collinite #885.

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post Mar 30 2011, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(tchtax @ Mar 30 2011, 04:49 PM)
Hi all, do you normally use quick detailer or quick wax after washing? I know they have different functions, but which do you prefer? I use the detailer and it brings out a great shine.
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Personally, I use quick wax (megs UQW) after washing. Did UQD once, not really fond it cos the protection goes off real soon.. whereas shine level, hmm.. i'm a little bit over UQW cause it gives the carnuba looks, which I like A LOT.. biggrin.gif

all this are solely on UQW and UQD.. other QD I not too sure.. but after ONR wash, the shine is great!

However, between UQW and Aquawax... I prefer UQW more. smile.gif

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