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Financial Setia Walk..Puchong, pre-launch R3 service apartment..

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post Mar 31 2011, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(hanif444 @ Mar 31 2011, 10:04 AM)
Inside the tower which is under con now...upstairs are A-class office if i not mistaken...Can see IOI PFCC are speedy up..
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A-class office still got?? I tot it has turned into highclass service apartment call Trigon, going RM650psft hmm.gif
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post Apr 1 2011, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(siaww @ Mar 31 2011, 03:07 PM)
ioi bouevelard initial also well plan but what we can see now is a another ghost city  sweat.gif
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where got.. I used to hav coffee and also happy hour there... moreover like UFO daikor say... too soon to judge... nod.gif
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post Apr 2 2011, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(sameday @ Apr 2 2011, 07:14 PM)
I think it will take 2-3 year for all resident and condo tenants to move in before it can getting wong for all those shop. else very hard for outsider to go there and shop / eat.. plenty of food already in bandar puteri.
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tenant mix will be a vital point, thats where SP setia have to come into play IMHO (and I think they will)... I think SW has sufficient residence around to support like taman wawasan, puchong jaya, at the rest of the residence around puchong.. 1st impression after looking at some of the photos taken, this place is neat and fresh... it will be a big hit in my opnion...

I think Bandar Puteri and SW are of different league and comparison...

1) How do you go about Bandar Puteri shoplot, most probably you will just park at the nearest shop that you want to go, wanna eat dimsum, park near dimsum shop, wanna eat steamboat, park near steamboat shop.. den after makan, then balik... maybe go other shop nearby buy other stuff, do banking, maybe not..
For SW, just park your car at SW parking lot (few thousand for public), and you can walk the whole building and shops, plenty of choise.. after makan, still can walk around, maybe a cup of coffee, maybe saja window shop, this will create more crowd moving around SW..

2) Nice landscape, water feature that will be refreshing and nice to hang around.. Shadding along walkway, convenient for ppl to move around...

3) Pulling factor.. there will be cinema and fitness center there.. these 2 will be excellent pulling factor for ppl to visit.. Malls with cinema are always proven to be vibrant and lively.. moreover got fitness center summore...

Thus I think even without the residence of SW service apartment, the commercial part will still stay active and busy, and when the residence move into Solace Brio Vio, this place will be even more lifely and vibrant.. thumbup.gif .. good heh brows.gif

my 2 mao....

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post Jun 1 2011, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jun 1 2011, 08:20 PM)
What are you trying to explained here? Living standard is high and those household income of 8k is not enough to survive in Puchong? And you always insist that Puchong consist of those that is young couples which earning barely survive their basic living? So in another words you mean those Puchongites is a poor residents which will not afford to have a decent lifestyle? Those are your thoughts but have you really check around the Puchong and understand what is their profession, their income and etc? So you are having a better views and study on what the SW will become? Then I think you must be a millionaire by now as you can see better than the developers...congrats!

Precisely. Living std/inflation is running away while salary levels (including promotion, increment, etc) is not keeping up. But that's a discussion for another day. Point is SW has to take into consideration these points before positioning their product. Too "high class' and u risk alienating a lot of people in Puchong (who might go there to makan angin or makan-makan) but could not keep the high end retailers in business. If they position to the middle income group, they risk competing with IOI Mall. SO they have to get the mix right!
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After reading 1 page.. I only can say lifestyle and income has little to no relation in today's society..

Talking about income and income group is abit "waste gas" IMHO...

- ppl nowadays own things that they cannot afford, buy cars that they cant afford, owning a lifestyle that they cant afford..
- Do you think youngsters sitting in Starbucks earn 8k a month, some spend the $$ that they dont even earn..
- SW wont stop ppl from entering bcos you dun own 8k permonth... they dont care if you eat and dine with credit card or debt... looking at 1U, pyramid and midvalley, flooded with youngster that dont own 8k/month..

If you wanna say SW wont work bcos residence around are more of family type and less urban youngster, just look at Jusco Cheras Selatan which full of branded shop and cinemas, parking is full everyweekend... look at Mines Serdang, no parking till have to park the convention center... Cheras and Serdang has more "family type" than Puchong.. Puchong has much much more urban youngsters than these 2 place which in general, ppl say Cheras and Serdang are old and boring place.. Have you seen Alamanda? you will wonder...

SW position itself very well, smack along one of the busiest highway, and at the side of the highway where majority "going home" direction (a tips for buying commercial prop, buy the side that has higher traffic after office hour. For puchong, IOI mall is on the side of higher traffic during morning rush hour while SW is on the side of higher traffic after office hour... guess which side will be more "wong" brows.gif )...

The univerity of Uncle Lim's Kok got Wing, MMU, Apiit and IMU nearest happening township is puchong... this is a major plus point.. there are alot of student renting in Puchong... BJ is also lacking of this sort of life style outlet.. Puchong will be their nearest choice apart from Sunway and Midvalley..

Looking at the number of apartment and condos in Puchong, a lot of young working adults and students are staying in these places...

Tenant mix will be vital.. and the major most important factor of all that I see.. Cinema.. A shopping outlet with a cinema usually wont die, instead bring in alot of traffic flow.. Jusco Selatan, Mines, Alamanda, Leisure mall.. SW will steal a lot of movie goer from IOI mall if SW has the correct eatery and entertainment outlet.. again.. SW is at the "correct" side of LDP..

SP Setia lack of commercial experience? "Not so smart" company will gain their own experience while smart company will hire experience ppl to do the job.. I dont see how SP setia cant handle this...

SW target market is "urban LIFESTYLE CONSCIOUS ppl" being yound or old, man or woman, working or not working, married or not married, rich or poor.. not categorize by their income..

Forget about all the financial talk.. bcos Malaysian mati mati pun mau gaya... its not hard to realize by looking at debt ratio and ever incresing CC debt.. SW dont care, they just wanna earn you $$..

let the show begin in SW.. thumbup.gif

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post Jun 19 2011, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jun 19 2011, 07:54 PM)
The point in bold is so true. I believe a lot of young people spend money they could not afford. It's a matter of time  before reality (and the debt collectors) come knocking on thier door. Don't forget, Malaysia is relatively save from the recent financial crisis. Not many people were being retrenched. But in the future who know? Greece is in deep shit and China's overheating its economy. When it all crashes and tons of people get retrenched in M'sia, all these people will be the first to go brankrupt.
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As long as rich daddy and mummy can fund their lifestyle...

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post Jun 22 2011, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jun 21 2011, 11:35 AM)
Rich daddy and mommy may not be able to liquidate their assets in time to save dear son/daughters.
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nvm de... if no FAMA help, they will use plastic card.. they use it so much and get them into trouble.. they look for AKPK.. den they learn their lesson..

And you know what, after that another new generation of freshy start working and enjoy life style.. den plastic card.. den AKPK.. den learn their lesson..

then next yr, another new batch of freshy use plastic card again.. den AKPK den.................

so u see... the cycle never ends... lifestyle outlet always glad that school never teach financial management .. and this outlet every year also got business from freshy.... doh.gif


Added on June 23, 2011, 12:00 am
QUOTE(ronn77 @ Jun 22 2011, 05:30 PM)
nono..SW is doomed to failed as it only caters for those earning above $8,000, remember????  biggrin.gif
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muahahhahhaha...... the security guard can read from your forehead, you dun earn 8k, kenot come in.. but if you got plastic card, no problem... icon_idea.gif

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post Jun 24 2011, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(zavier98 @ Jun 24 2011, 06:00 AM)
There was once a self-inflated guy who cannot accept SW will be the landmark of puchong, hence criticises the statement.
Follow the link if you want some good background.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/752729/+180

Two years nearly gone and now with sw commercial completed, how many of you would think sw will be the landmark of puchong ?
Can anyone state the reason if he doesnt think so ?

Most interestingly, i would like to see how Pai makes his way through cos he strongly rejected the idea at that time.

There is nothing wrong to predict the future as forum is to share everyone's thought. It's only when a heated debate happen, someone who thinks he is right and criticises others are shamed when things dont turn out in favour of him.
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Chill Zavier, SW is still far from celebrating yet.. I would say commercial wise looks promising, no doubt I think for the commercial part will kick off very nicely, but for residential is still a big taboo...

Party just started for SW commercial but residential still far from celebrating..

When Solace, Brio, and Vio receive great success in 1 to 2 years time, maybe you can copy and paste this page and shoot me back rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 26 2011, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(zavier98 @ Jun 25 2011, 06:57 PM)
wah Paineer still got face to post comment ar ! rclxms.gif  i start to admire you .. your thick skin ..  notworthy.gif
your comment is very contradict ler .. first you disagree sw will be landmark and condemn sw gao gao, today you compare it with Pyramid and 1U ..
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/752729/+180
wah u behave like our politician ..  brows.gif
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You not sien one meh ...
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post Jul 11 2011, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(hanif444 @ Jul 11 2011, 02:31 PM)
WWS1 = 18x65 , 20x70
WWS2= 20x70,22x70
WWS3= 20x70, 22x75
WWS4= 22x75

figure urself..is still much cheaper if compare SetiaWalk with wawasan landed freehold.
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post Dec 7 2011, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(T816B @ Dec 7 2011, 08:22 AM)
I do not think most of the shops will be in time for CNY. Feb/March is more likely.
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CNY less than 2 months away... yea... its too late...
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QUOTE(yoki @ Feb 7 2012, 11:12 AM)
i thought trigone was on sale last year?
price is too agreesive IMO, 600psf, factored in future LRT and (imaginary MRT) price
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forgive my ignorance, i understand that LRT development (ampang line) will be splited into few phases, 1st phase only ends at kinrara or puchong ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Feb 8 2012, 12:45 AM)
Leasing team shd conduct another round of discussion with shops' owner, I think the rental rate is very high, SPS must understand that the amount of shops in Puchong is over supply, why I say so? If we examine the tenant mix in Bdr Puteri and Puchong Jaya, the percentage of F&B outlets is relatively higher than certain "wong" commercial areas like Taipan, Tmn Desa, Kelana Jaya etc. I think the leasing team is not aggressive enough.
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not to mention Zest point wanna do asian food hub, but cant see its moving rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Feb 8 2012, 02:04 AM)
I dun think Zest Point can be a success. If I am a retails shop businessman, I will not open my outlet in ZP, it is not whether the rental reasonable or not, but is the number of shops is not enough to pull crowd into this area. Even to open a mamak shop, they will do a survey as well.
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yea.. too little commercial element cant pull the crowd, moreover need pulling factor like cinema. number of carpark allocation is pathetically low.

SW has a good layout to be successful, mainly having cinema and ample of carpark.. like you guys say, leasing team has to get the right mix of tenant to pull off a good show. very looking forward to SW
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no offence, but the facilities doesnt look on par with their branding.. 0.25cent/psf looks kinna steep for maintenance fee

solace swimming pool..
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QUOTE(yoki @ Feb 20 2012, 01:41 PM)
maybe it is a kids pool....??
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this is solace only pool right?

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Feb 20 2012, 11:37 PM)
[attachmentid=2695265] Photo 1
[attachmentid=2695266] Photo 2

If we study these 2 pictures carefully, I am quite sure this is the wading pool. Photo 1, the pool edge which is glass panel facing an empty playground, while photo 2 the main pool glass panel is facing outside.
I manage to talk to one of the SA today, she isn't aware of LYN discussion, she may study and revert it back to me tomolo.
I did ask the occupancy rate of those shoplots, according to her, all the shoplots ground floor are taken, dunno true or not?  hmm.gif
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mayb ... but looking at pic1, if its the wading pool facing BP, should b no more building in front right hmm.gif

if study the 2 pic carefully, i can see the 2 black hose in both pic... smile.gif

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play ground is not in open air...

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Added on February 21, 2012, 12:09 am
QUOTE(davkong @ Feb 20 2012, 11:56 PM)
Nola, I believe the two pics show the same pool, which is the swimming pool. It's just that the angle of the photo and the pool is irregularly shaped (not rectangular, I believe) and it's only showing part of it. From the photo you can't tell either that each column to column width is 8.4m, but they are.
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closest estimation will be solace type c balcony (pic2).. slightly wider than the balcony width..
yes, type c width is 8.4m, but i think the pool section is slightly narrower if u refer to the width of type c above.. may 6m in width

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 21 2012, 11:08 AM)
tat's quite encouraging... smile.gif
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skypod will be launched roughly around the same psqft price, that will be a new benchmark for puchong goldmile..
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QUOTE(davkong @ Mar 24 2012, 09:14 PM)
Good to see they are starting to do some event management.. hope the publicity will bring in more crowd.

Next one coming soon.. Roommates Bar.. looks cool yo!

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Let's see..

1. Muzeum
2. The Beer Factory
3. Roommates Bar
4. The Beer House
5. Sector 7
6. 17Saloon
7. Brussels Beer Cafe

Will need lots of drinkards to fill these up!  rclxub.gif
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this is good sign.. latest drinking place in puchong beside bangsar, sri hartamas, mutiara damansara, changkat bukit bintang thumbup.gif

sw minum place cater for south kv drinker wink.gif

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QUOTE(ProPStaR @ Mar 26 2012, 01:29 PM)
Good judgement ... and very optimistic figure as well.
So now, the concern lies on how can the commercial be considered as great success ..
Over time, i have less doubt on SW to continue appreciating but don't you guys think the current price is too optimistic ? However, if i benchmark against Zest, i think SW should command higher price but how much more premium is hard to scale.
I agree that the commercial will set the price for SW, but at this moment, it's still too early to say .. retail shops are suffering rental depressed. SW is lucky to secure some real good tenants but it needs to bring in more to be considered great success.
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do u think zest n sw are comparable?

zest is apartment with shops, while sw is shop with apartment whistling.gif

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