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post Jul 7 2012, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(michaellks @ Jul 7 2012, 09:10 PM)
I've just bought myself 4 MHI (Deluxe series) air-conds. 3 SRK10 and 1 SRK19.... Hopefully it's the right decision. Sales person claimed the SRK19 (2HP) can blow up to 18meters away.
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18 ft more like it. Meter think is bit to much, that is about 54ft.
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post Jul 10 2012, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(bat11 @ Jul 10 2012, 06:18 PM)
Just get a quote from my contractor for cost of air cond installation as below:

1. Conceal and install copper piping for 3HP cassette air cond (30ft) - RM800
2. Conbceal and install copper piping for 1.5HP air cond (105ft) - RM2310.
3. Conceal and install copper piping for 1.0hp air cond (75ft) - RM1800
4. To install 1 hp air cond - RM120 each
5. To install 1.5hp air cond - RM150 each
6. to install 3.0hp cassette air cond - RM350 each.

* all these air cond are non-inverter.

What you think about this pricing? Expensive or ok? Thanks for sharing!
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105ft, wow, you have a big house. Did you factor in losses? If not later you get under sized Ac, waisted the money and not cold.

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post Jul 10 2012, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 10 2012, 10:54 PM)
I am having a problem.

Developer had ready with the copper pipe and everything conceal in the walls....
however, I m only afford to buy two airconds at master room and living hall....

but, there there two more points at room 2 and room 3....how do you cover the piping? can i use back the gas pipe after three years or even more? if I didnt tape the holes, i afraid "lipas" will go in and block the holes in future....

so, any idea? Tq
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Masking tape to tape the holes inside, and masking tape + plastic bag for outside. Can just leave it.
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post Jul 11 2012, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 10 2012, 11:30 PM)
tq....

my wife want to seal it forever....she said not nice.....but, i want it to be kept......it is wasted if seal it forever...haha.....
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What every you do, don't bend too much. It will be unusable.


Added on July 11, 2012, 12:09 am
QUOTE(skng03 @ Jul 10 2012, 11:44 PM)
U can ask your ac man to cut it short n cover with a nice pic/ drawing.
Next time u want to install ac just extend by welding the copper piping…
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Copper is solder lah.

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post Jul 11 2012, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jul 11 2012, 08:29 AM)
Copper pipe is brazing. Not solder or weld. Dont bend it I agree. Warp the outlet with muskin tape and outdoor side put plastic bag. Get your AC installer to vacuum kao kao during installation. Just leave it there and dont cut. Poor brazing work will result in leakage. What they do in factory is that after they braze the will usually test the brazing point with a 450 to 600 psi pressure depending on pipe thickness. I doubt that your AC man can do that. Do not cut.
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You are right, just can't find that braze word.


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post Jul 11 2012, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(bat11 @ Jul 11 2012, 08:27 AM)
Really sorry for the confusion. Actually I need to install 7 units of aircond : 1 2.5HP Cassette (according to my contractor, the installation cost is the same as 3HP, so, he quote me 3HP price), 3 1.5HP and 3 1HP. Very headache now. Install aircond also damn expensive!
Your piping so long, sure expensive. Have you consider losses? 1HP at that length may not get any power when reach the blower.

My previous company, need 30000btu, but the compressor is 5 level below, total length is about 90ft and the HVAC expert advise minimal 36k BTUs, we end up getting about 40k BTUs and is just nice.
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post Jul 11 2012, 10:16 AM

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Uncle Google will give you more explain.smart phone is not fun to type.
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post Jul 12 2012, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 12 2012, 02:09 PM)
benefit is u just buy one aircond and use it everywhere....

the drawbk,i think how to dissipate heat

i m considering, hvnt buy yet
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after moving here and there for few time you won't even want to move it. Is not light, and you need to put the ducting to blow the heat out. Not sure about efficiency, you may want to check.
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post Jul 12 2012, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Jul 12 2012, 08:28 PM)
haha..sound so comical  biggrin.gif ...drag around the house..

I tot of getting one for dining..just in case..Coz of the location of the aircon at the living, by the time dining is cold enough, living may be a liitle too cold for comfort..
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Use standing fan to redirect.


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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Jul 12 2012, 09:29 PM)
i also dont know..i think it just went right out the back like our pc....havent survey
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Saw a portable unit at Best Denki, it got a big flexi hose, think 6" and about 15 to 20' you can redirect.

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post Jul 12 2012, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Jul 12 2012, 10:16 PM)
Ok thanks, I will go and see..but wont buy now..need to buy other necessity first.. tongue.gif
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Harvey Norman may have too.
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post Aug 6 2012, 04:29 PM

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You need earth, live, and neutral for normal AC, inverter need another one for signal. Some uses 2 signal. So minimal you need 4.

Another method is get a 4 wires inverter, use one of your copper cables as earth. This is practice if you Install 4 wires, but invert need 5 wires.
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post Aug 6 2012, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(Titan_Gunners @ Aug 6 2012, 06:50 PM)
Bro, since mine is non inverter AC, there should not be any problem, right?? rclxub.gif
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I don't know how the Mitsubishi AC writing like. For other non inverter I seen is only 3 wires.
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post Aug 30 2012, 08:40 AM

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2HP for that size is not enough. My ground floor inclusive of dinning and dry kitchen area about that size. Living room 2 hp and dining 1hp that only get cooling if I switch it on both. If only living room AC is switch on it will take time to cool the living room and really not that cooling to my standard.

Don't use online calculator that are for oversees country. You need top get calculator for our climates.

Best go ask experience contractor.
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post Aug 30 2012, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(YJYYEE @ Aug 30 2012, 03:12 PM)
doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif ...42btu which is 2HP is just nice for those who do not wan a ''arctic'' kind of cooling condition...I do recommend a 3HP for a PERFECT condition which is 28,661 BTU...equivalent to 55.437/hr/sq.ft...offered by MITSUBISHI or 27,000BTU for Panasonic... wink.gif


Added on August 30, 2012, 3:18 pm

Different house got different heat builds up in the room each hour...this all will affected by various condition such as air cond circulation for example an aircond which is placed wrongly at the very corner of the room...number of windows...room insulation...number of people an so on...so the number of aircond u hav doesn't mean that other ppl need that quantity too...if ur standard is arctic cool standard than go get few 6HP ac... wink.gif


Added on August 30, 2012, 3:22 pm

Enough...  biggrin.gif
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I do agreed each house layout will affect the cooling distribution. Without knowing the house layout we cannot use standard assumption. AC specialist visit is really required to get what the house owner requirement.

What is just nice to you may not be just nice to other. Just nice maybe take 30 mins to reach just nice.
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post Sep 16 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Sep 16 2012, 10:53 AM)
Hi,

I'm planning to buy aircon for my master bedroom and at first thinking of using 1.5HP, then some friends came to my house and mentioned they use 1.0 only for their room which is about my size.

Here's the layout of my room, measurement in cm. The line in red color are the windows (3 panels and not tinted) and there's a walk in wardrobe (with sliding door) and inside the wardrobe is the toilet. The blue color area is where I'm going to put my aircon. I moved it from its original point above the window to make place for full length curtains. There's a ceiling fan in the middle of the room.

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It's very warm in the afternoon, that I don't dare to take afternoon nap in it on weekends. During dry days (which is very frequent nowadays), it's warm at night too. I just want to maintain my room temperature at around 22 to  24 degrees.

Is 1.0 sufficient for my case? And is HP going to affect the noise it make?
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1Hp is sure not enough, your AC will work hard. Better use 1.5, is better to use higher, later not child enough hard to fix.
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post Sep 16 2012, 11:37 PM

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Temperature is maintain by the sensor. 24c for 1hp and 24c for 1.5hp is the same 24c. The stronger (1.5hp) maybe only take to cool down the room from 28c to 24c in say 20mins, while the 1hp will need maybe 30 to 40mins.

Think the higher hp, also have stronger blower, can blow the air further, making wider area cooler.

The higher the hp, you get faster cooling. of course don't over doing it.



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post Oct 17 2012, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Oct 17 2012, 11:14 AM)
I have this question. I need to shift my air cond six inches to the right.
With the hose at the back, is it possible?
If yes any cost estimate??
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Need to extend the hose and cables.
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post Oct 25 2012, 12:30 PM

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installment are charged back to customer. If you don't believe ask the retail shop for cash price and later tel them for installment plan. They will ask you pay extra like 4 to 5% minimal.
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post Oct 29 2012, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(chae @ Oct 29 2012, 06:05 PM)
so conclusion which AC is good? less sound and save electricity + no hassle for maintenance.
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Yes the brand is Nothing.

My Panasonic after closer to one year usage maybe giving problem, just log a call to customer service technician coming to check. From the sound of it it sound like running out of gas. Had this problem in May, but call my installer to check, he confirm pipe is ok, and refill it for free. Ask me to call Panasonic if gas leak again. Now it happen let set what Panasonic say.

My Neighbor brought all daikin, who say no problem? Change one compressor not to long ago.

To me anything we buy may encounter problem, most important is after sales service.
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post Nov 1 2012, 03:07 PM

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My Panasonic just had it dismental 2nd time since install. The gas go empty after about 6 months, this is the 2nd 6th month happen again. Panasonic technician came over on Monday did visual inspection and soap test only, say no problem sad.gif ask me to call back the installer because the leak due to the low pressure coupling outdoor unit. Today had it service and redo the coupling. Ah well, can't tell if its the installation problem or A/C unit problem. Give it another 6 months and see. But by than my Panasonic will be out of warranty.

Still can't blame whos fault is it. If the gas leak again, I'll change this unit to other brand and do pressure check on the copper hose.

Tiny gas leak is really hard to check.

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