Hi Jackchong,

Espring got Promo, buy 1 espring, add RM299 can get a Philips LED TV 32" worth RM849.

Buy 1 filter, get filter + TV.

I respect you asking ppl not to PM you, so I ask you may I PM you? thanks

Espring filtered about 140 types of harmful contaminants.

Coway only tested by NSF to filter around 10 contaminants.

Coway= RO water....mild acidic.

Yup, hot and cold water is convenient, then you if you want a hot and cold water, really no point to pay RM3500.

Bro, it is based on unit. It will not carry any meaning if it is based on revenue. There are filter costing 7k, 10k, 16k. VWA, Electrolux, Kangen....


That one is a fake, beware. Ppl knew it is good, and make an imitation product.
NSF certificate cannot be bought, if it can bought, Philips, Panasonic, Pensonic, Cosway.....will be on the list, which they are not currently certified.

Philips were certified once, but not meeting the standard in later batches of the production...

Yes, other cert you can buy. NSF, you can't buy. And that's why it is special. The "number" underneath the water bottles (1,3,5,7) are also standards set by NSF.

Every month, the new batch of products are tested. Random units are selected to be retested. This is how serious NSF is to protect the consumer.

haha, you also know that Philips model. Cheaper and certified by WQA using NSF standard, but not tested in NSF labs.

Then after a while WQA also not showing it is certified.


Hehe, yeah, can print, cosway likes printing that, and stick outside of the box.....the unit got no NSF logo on it.

hehe, water mark only....but you can color the back (inside) of the black panel of the cover with a layer of red transparency....


It will do the trick.

Nope, you shouldn't take anyone's words, you should do your own homework, get a lab, and start testing the different water filters.

I have equipment to do basic test, covered diamonds(3 diff models), elken, coway(many models), nesh, bacfree, panasonic, philips...

cheers

cover particle test in the output of the different water filters.

Shockingly RO water is not the cleanest, particle count is pretty high in RO water.

yup, contrary to most ppl belief RO product the cleanest water, thru the particle checker test, it is no where near cleanest.

I know there are different grades, but not many consumers are aware of that, and thought RO = cleanest.

Put under the particle checker, they got the shocking look on their face.


Singapore water refinery was done by hyflux.

I doubt it is cleanest also, have friends in singapore complained about it.

The only cleanest RO tech is used on the space shuttle, that really can transform shit and piss to pure water.

bacfree is made in Malaysia, and not quite really deliver what they charge.

Best to check what the test result here @ NSF

http://info.nsf.org/Certified/DWTU/

Bro, this video is some ppl in taiwan doing a test on cosway.

https://www.facebook.com/chiawei.feng/video...36/?pnref=story


The cost for cosway is 1.4k - 2.2k depending on the different model, price is lower but then can't even filter colouring, which has really big particle size than other chemicals.

NSF is not only limited for USA market.

Coway was a brand from Korea also certified by NSF standards.
Kinetico is selling in France, UK but didn't bother to get certify by LGA even, currently certified by WQA using NSF standards.
Philips (Europe) also certified by WQA using NSF standards.


To get certified under NSF labs is a serious ordeal, NSF test products towards the end of their life span (aged cartridge) for effectiveness. This is why you see some brands just rather get WQA certifications using NSF standards instead of sending it to NSF labs for the actual tests.

In Philips Water filter brochure, it was documented, Certified under NSF-53, NSF-55 by an independent laboratory.

Even Kinetico, with 35 years experience started to cut some corners, it was certified by NSF labs & WQA labs, now only WQA labs using NSF standards.


I strongly urge everyone to not just look at the standard numbers, but dwell deeper into the reports, what it can really filter, how long is the contaminants list. This is important, make sure VOC, THM, TTHM is in the list, TTHM is one of the major cause of breast cancer!!


Search NSF reports here: (key in brand name or manufacturer name)
http://info.nsf.org/Certified/DWTU/


Search WQA reports here:
http://www.wqa.org/Find-Products#/

This post has been edited by d_goh: Jun 21 2015, 02:11 PM