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Household [Home Appliances] Water Filter, for drinking water purpose

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post Mar 27 2015, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Mar 27 2015, 09:07 AM)
3M Aqua-Pure DWS2500T-CN Indoor Drinking Water Filtration Systems cost RM2599

I just bought GE double filtration similar to 3M DWS2500T-CN for RM250

10x less but works the same. Figure out laugh.gif
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I doubt your claims that GE 10x less cheaper than 3M with same benefit filtrations.
NSF for GE Water & Process Technologies VS NSF for 3M Purification Inc.
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post Mar 27 2015, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Mar 27 2015, 12:11 PM)
https://www.geapplianceparts.com/store/part...erSysSingleDual

I got the Lead/Cyst which is the yellow ring ones smile.gif rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Impressive benchmarking, how did you buy this things.. Looks affordable.
And the second filter can filter up to 4500litres but the first filter only capable to do 600litres jobs; compare to 3M are only capable to do the 2800litres jobs for both filters.
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post Mar 28 2015, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(stinky @ Mar 28 2015, 12:45 AM)
Amazon?
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Shipping back to Malaysia not gonna be cheap. doh.gif
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post Mar 28 2015, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 28 2015, 12:50 PM)
thus, average per filter is ( 4500 + 600 ) / 2 = 2550 liters.

it's good this community here in search of highest Liters/RM filters cartilage.

hope we can find the highest Liters/RM for NSF42 and NSF53 standard respectively.

Let's continue the search.
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Yeah, long term liters/RM filter usage are most important.
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post Mar 30 2015, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(mghong @ Mar 29 2015, 11:20 PM)
One thing i notice is , only 3m got filter of Chlorine  but this GE dont have .[attachmentid=4391347][attachmentid=4391348]

any comment on this ?although the GE filter alot of other material..
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As long the filter certified with NSF 42 are already capable to filter chlorine.

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post Apr 2 2015, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(normaron @ Apr 2 2015, 09:43 AM)
I bought this sink from China.
China Sink
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Total damage how much include forwarding?
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post Apr 6 2015, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(mghong @ Apr 5 2015, 09:55 PM)
What is your ideal water filter system ?

Outdoor - Sand /Membrane
Indoor (membrane/UV/RO) ... ?

I think i will go for Outdoor - Sand with Active Carbon.
Indoor (membrane filter). At least i can drink it direct w/o electricity ..
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If you have reserve water tank. Dont get active carbon for outdoor.. Sand/Semi membrane type are enough for outdoor.

Indoor get NSF 42, 53 for drinking purposes. If have NSF 55 like eSpring UV killing bacteria/viruses are perfect combo.
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post Apr 6 2015, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(mghong @ Apr 6 2015, 01:37 PM)
Amway espring is a good choice if we dont want to boiler those water , can i ask if w/o electricity will it still work at least to filter the water out for us to boil it ?

I was thinking to get the GE indoor unit(poision by you all) , worse case just boil(gas/electricity) it everyday before use.

There are number of sand filter outside in selangor area , price range from rm 300 to rm 1600(waterco), i believe all serve the same purposes. (someone told me the sand need to refill after xx year as it will become smaller and smaller, and will penetrate into our filter and go into our water tank.

I think with activate carbon is still ok , as stated it only can remove 20% chlorine only..still 80% inside water tank.
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I would say, eSpring is currently golden standard of all indoor POU water purifier. Put all those technical details aside. Follow by 3M/Aquasana/Bacfree also come with minimal requirement of NSF 42+53. These are much cheaper/budget friendly. The only dam cons of the eSpring is require to plug in electricity all the time in order to monitor the filter lifespan and as well UV to work. So if electricity are down, you need to boil to kill those bacteria/viruses which can't be filter.

I would get GE filter as well if they do come with local MY support. Unless you are smart shopper or tech savvy enough on how to import from US to your house. At least they are cheap to obtain and almost same maintenance compare to 3M. Want hassle free? just get those local brand I mentioned above. All sand filter are required to changed after around between 4-6years. Pricing are vary depend on your reseller.

As for active carbon you mentioned earlier, I still won't recommend you to do so, I don't see a reason to filter the chlorine or just remove 20% of chlorine just for the sake of filtering it? Why pay for something that only working 20% and you still have to replace(maintenance) after couple years? Just get a proper sand filter (either auto backwash/manual backwash) or 3M AP902 (semi membrane) for Point-of-Entry.
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post Apr 13 2015, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(jackchong890 @ Apr 13 2015, 11:30 AM)
anyone here using Nesh water filter.... any opinion?

now seem like add on Ozone function, seem quiet good..

but the penguin design was too ugly for me.. sign:
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It was a bad choice, and the Ozone is just an "another" marketing gimmicks which is no real scientific proven, and no NSF certified.
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post Apr 13 2015, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 13 2015, 03:50 PM)
Back from US

Can't wait to fix it on my new kitchen rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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It tooks like 1weeks? that was quick.
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post Apr 14 2015, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(jackchong890 @ Apr 14 2015, 12:57 PM)
hahaaa... but tested their ozone washing... really can wash away the garlic bad smell...

what mean by NFS?
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NSF Certification
Why NSF?
What is NSF certification?

TLDR? Here.
NSF International is an independent non profit public health organization that helps consumers by maintaining standards for food, water, and consumer goods, as well as certifying products according to these standards. - Wikipedia.
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post Apr 21 2015, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 20 2015, 11:30 AM)
Thanks for sharing. Only 0.5 micron and 0.2 micron? Hmm. My existing Panasonic PJ-37MRF does down to 0.1 micron...sadly Panasonic never sent for NSF or WQA testing..

I'm looking for something below RM1000... and to drink straight without boiling.
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QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 20 2015, 06:57 PM)
Is there something wrong with the ez-4? GE also not common here. Same like EZ-4.
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Even RO (Reserve Osmosis) can go as low as 0.0001 microns. So micron is not everything to judge on the filter during purchase. You have to look for the warranty support after sales, long-terms maintenance, future spareparts replacements, certifications, no bullshyting marketing gimmicks can cure disease, etc more...

Your Penasonic doesn't have sent for NSF/WQA testing is because they could be taken from OEM and rebrand on it.

Nothing wrong with both Culligan or GE. Because as far as previous forumers found that locally don't have GE distributors. You have to rely on others to import for you.
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QUOTE(quintesson @ May 11 2015, 04:19 PM)
Are those outdoor water filter (sand type) typically the same for all brands?  There are so many of it with different pricing. If no which is the best type of filtering and economical? For this sand type filtering what are the things that we should concern? Thx
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All Sand filtration External Water Filter are not made equal. Most of them are OEM, but that doesn't matter, most important is the inside the Sand Media are what type and where did it came from (imported).

The PVC piping change to Brass if your place is xposed to Sun UV light, and the body vessel try look for Fibre-Reinforced Polymer (FRP) or Stainless Steel (SS). The sand sometime might goes into your house tank (a little bit). Often need to do backwash, normally changing the media filter are rougly 5 years time.
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QUOTE(dat_chong @ May 13 2015, 11:14 AM)
is outdoor diamond filter good?
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Not worth, that price point can get entry-level of OEM Sand filter.
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post May 21 2015, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(systaksis @ May 21 2015, 02:16 AM)
my friend selling m 2nd hand 2years old espring for me RM1.9K.. is it worth to buy?
or get new 3M filter?
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RM1.9k include the Filter or not? If ask you buy new filter need another RM540.
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post May 21 2015, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 21 2015, 10:12 AM)
Heard so many brand that can do this and that better than other. I would say that 80% are just hyped. The basic purpose of water filter is just filtering water and this is the cost you need to pay. I would not pay much attention on mineral this and that since from what I read minerals that enter our body are mainly from food, not water
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Yeah, right, mostly are over-hyped, can cure this, can make that. That is why buying a water filter is to ensure the main purpose that it can safety and correctly remove all those bad harmful stuff from water while maintain good stuff in the water. So picking water filter are few simple steps, products filtration performance, products NSF certifications, products price, long term usage performance/price/spare-parts, warranty.
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 21 2015, 10:32 AM)
With the price like that, I would install whole house filter, normally at 5 micron, and make sure the water is filtered to certain degree first. Then for drinking water, I just install one which is just ceramic based+carbon. Buy a good ceramic filter with guarantee 1 micron (some state like just 1 micron which is not absolute 1 micron). The carbon will remove any smell from water (yes this can't be removed by just any filter).

I had mine under sink type and install drinking tap so that I can just drink or get water directly from this tap (use for cooking too). By having the outdoor filter for all house filtering, I do not need to regularly clean the drinking filter. Even after a year the water flows with unnoticeable reduction in volume.  wink.gif
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Usually, for outdoor filter either is membrane type or sand type, could be range from 5-10 micron. So is good for whole house and also reduce the number of times of cleaning our water tank. Less stress to our washing machine or our water filter. So your choice is good.

As for ceramic filter, I doubt it, unless it came minimal of NSF 42 that capable to remove some specific aesthetic and some non-health contaminants.

Also, we have to understand that, not all Carbon filter are created equal. Different Carbon Compress technology make different the micron, and the Carbon Life Span capable to absorb. Also, a qualified Carbon Filter are require NSF 53.

Of course, some might argue, I been drinking tap water or whatever water for so many water, still won't die anyway. Not all human body health are born equal as well, some have lower body immune just like some have family tradition cancers..

Your current filter using at home are still capable for you or families members, but my advice, in the future when having babies, at least boil the water after filter. Some virus/bacteria such like Rotavirus can't be filtered by any normal filter.
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post May 21 2015, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 21 2015, 11:09 AM)
No filter said removed 100% bacteria. Even some bacteria survived after boiling water. Doulton filter is considered safe for drinking already and the pipe water is already treated and should be free of dangerous bacteria.
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I'm not saying that there are a filter that exists that capable to filter 100% of water harmful stuff, but with 3rd party lab test, filter like 3M, eSpring, Culligan consumer brand of water filter etc.. that have NSF certification at least that proven they can do at least 99.99% of those organic and in-organic contaminant filtration.

I was trying to say that we adult body immune are good, but not for babies. Meanwhile, bacteria, viruses and cyst in the water only can be killed by UV/Heat but not carbon, ceramic, sand, membrane etc..
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QUOTE(jackchong890 @ May 26 2015, 07:45 AM)
so may I know which brand or filter anyone recommended if budget around RM3500 ? still espring? or coway?

please dont any agent pm me about ur product.. Thanks
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Seriously, I just received the next month offer from my upline last night, buy eSpring next month get one 32 inch Philips 720P LED TV PWP RM299, if I were you, I die hard wait for next month offer. drool.gif #confirmsure
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QUOTE(jackchong890 @ May 26 2015, 05:29 PM)
seriously? ...lol...

but actually got so good this machine ?

because now i quiet interested with Coway water filter because they included Hot and Cold water and the water are ready just push a button to drink. is it sound good compare to eSpring ? except eSpring got one NSF certified... so important that certified?
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ESpring actually is the golden standard among all water filter, if you looking for equivalent quality and performance of it, mostly only available in US or Europe countries.

The importance of NSF certification, I believe some above already explained to you. Simply Google for NSF Wikipedia, more detail are there.

Like one of above said very true, if you have a healthy budget to spend on the indoor water filter, why consider not consider a better brand with better quality and as well better long term usage. A OEM brand RO water purifier with condenser could costs less than rm1k.

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